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NFL 2017 Offseason thread |OT| - Servicing Us Boys

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Ninja Scooter said:
She's barely in the picture.
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Kastrioti

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Matt Ryan: Lions QB Matthew Stafford deserves to be highest-paid player in NFL

"He deserves it," Ryan said Monday night during Super Bowl week in Houston. "He's a competitor. You talk about tough, he's as tough as it gets. Played hurt all year. Threw the ball really, really well with an injured finger. And he's certainly deserving of whatever (contract) comes his way."

Ryan, of course, could be biased. He became friends with Stafford after the Pro Bowl in 2014, and they've chummed around together a lot the last couple offseasons. That includes winning a church-league basketball title with their wives in the Atlanta area, where Stafford maintains a home.
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Stafford averages $17.6 million on his current deal, which ranks 20th at the position, just behind Tyrod Taylor, Tony Romo and Brock Osweiler. He'll surely get a bump in his next deal, which could happen as soon as this offseason, rather than play through a contract year in 2017.

Many believe he could top the record-setting deal that Andrew Luck got from the Colts last offseason, which averaged $24.6 million.
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http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ss...w_stafford_des.html#incart_river_mobile_index

Real recognize real
 
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http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/will_john_morton_push_jets_to_acquire_colin_kaeper.html

The Jets have a new offensive coordinator, Saints wide receivers coach John Morton. But they're still looking for answers at quarterback.

yan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith surely are goners in free agency. Christian Hackenberg is back for Year 2 in 2017, while Bryce Petty returns for Year 3.

There's a good chance the Jets will fill out their quarterback room by adding a veteran quarterback -- somebody like Brian Hoyer, Mike Glennon, or Tyrod Taylor, just to name three possibilities.

But what about the 49ers' Colin Kaepernick?

Before we get into the details about his situation, know that Morton has a previous relationship with Kaepernick. Morton was the 49ers' receivers coach from 2011-14.
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Should the Jets go after him this offseason? Morton certainly can provide the organization with information on what Kaepernick did well from 2012-14.

From a salary cap standpoint, the 49ers moving on from Kaepernick this offseason makes sense. He is entering the final year of his contract and is due to have a $19.3 million cap figure ($14.5 million of which is his non-guaranteed base salary). If the 49ers cut or trade Kaepernick, they'd save $16.9 million in cap space.
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Some quality speculation there NJ.com!

Though Kaep and the NY media would be interesting to say the least.
 
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Nathan Fenno ‏@nathanfenno 9m9 minutes ago
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Source: Goldman Sachs deal to finance Raiders stadium contingent on Sheldon Adelson involvement. Without Adelson, there isn't a deal.
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This entire move to LV is becoming a giant mess.
 
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On Thursday afternoon, Raiders owner Mark Davis sat with Sheldon Adelson at The Venetian, haggling over details of their proposed partnership on a stadium. As they went back and forth, Adelson’s lieutenant, Andy Abboud, was driving Raiders President Mark Badain to the Las Vegas Valley Water District, where the Stadium Authority was convening what promised to be a boring meeting.

The real action was on the Strip, where two tough negotiators had been arguing for weeks over naming rights, stadium operations and more. There was friction, but a deal was still possible.

Then it happened.

The Raiders presented what Sands officials are portraying as a Pearl Harbor document, which The Nevada Independent’s Jackie Valley first reported: $1 annual rent and total control.

Adelson, chatting with Davis in his office high in his hotel, had no idea. Abboud, having chauffeured Badain to the meeting, had no clue.

The Sands snookered? Sheldon the sucker? The Venetian victim? For all intents and purposes, the partnership ended that moment.

Despite weekend attempts to salvage the deal, sources say, with Abboud and Clark County Commission Chairman Steve Sisolak trying to play peacemakers, a furious Adelson decided Monday to walk. “He said today, ‘I’m done. I’m out. I’m not negotiating.’” said one insider.

The Sands chairman, known as a negotiator with no mercy, told people he believed the Raiders and their partners-in-waiting, Goldman Sachs, had dealt with him in bad faith. And hell hath no fury like an Adelson scorned.

Imagine how The Litigious One feels after letting the Raiders tap into his political juice, after intimidating the Legislature into giving his legacy dream $750 million in public money. And now he is taking his $600 million and going home. “It’s just a matter of how scorched he is going to make the Earth,” one insider told me. (Unrelated note: He does own a newspaper.)

The real question now for Adelson, for the Raiders, for the governor, for the Legislature is simple: How do you save face when you have so much egg on it?

“I don’t think either side is lily white,” suggested one knowledgeable observer of these negotiations, which had been difficult for weeks and really soured after the Raiders went to the NFL and said publicly Goldman Sachs would finance the deal even if Adelson withdrew. I’m told Adelson was furious upon learning of that declaration, especially because he does so much business with Goldman Sachs. Or did.

Even though the law passed by the Legislature protects the state if the deal now dissipates, Gov. Brian Sandoval and lawmakers can’t help but be red-faced. The same man who hired more than a dozen lobbyists to persuade most lawmakers that $750 million in public money was best spent for his stadium dreams is now pulling out his $600 million.

Senate Majority Leader Aaron Ford, who made a big deal out of an evanescent Community Benefits Agreement with Adelson, surely feels silly right about now. Yes, he and Abboud claimed one existed, but nothing had ever been signed. Now what?

And his counterpart, Senate Minority Leader Michael Roberson, who is close to the Sandsmen and ensured the deal was done in Carson City, can’t feel too good, either. He was their handmaiden, and now they have shown him the hand.

As for Sandoval, he always maintained that Davis was earnest about coming to Las Vegas, and now we are going to find out. How humiliating for all concerned if P.T. Barnum’s adage, which made Adelson and many other Strip denizens rich, could now be applied to most members of the state’s elected elite.

One of the great ironies of this story is that this began as an attempt by Adelson to gut the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA) by diverting room tax money toward the stadium, thus fulfilling a decades-long crusade. But after forging a marriage of convenience with the LVCVA and its R&R Partners lobbying team, the convention authority has its increased room tax for its expansion and Adelson has bupkus. Adelson helped the LVCVA, but he could not help himself.

As much as anyone worth $30 billion may not get much sympathy, the Raiders are no angels here. That proposal they presented Thursday is more outrageous and arrogant than anything any Strip doyen ever proposed, one that forced the stadium staff to draw up a memo to the board. There is no chance the authority will ever sign such an agreement, and some believe the Raiders used the authority to, as one insider put it, “pin Adelson’s ears back” and scuttle the deal.

Whether or not the NFL whispered in Davis’ ear, “Get rid of the casino guy or we won’t let you move,” it’s clear the Raiders, backed by the football bosses made Adelson an offer they knew he would refuse. And he did.

So what now?

No matter what Adelson does – in print, in court, in Carson City – another local investor could pick up the slack. Billionaire Ed Roski, nudged out of the deal by Adelson, might have renewed interest. And the Fertittas, who have a few billion lying around after selling the UFC, may take a look.

UNLV surely has a rooting stake in a stadium being built, but that’s a much tougher sell after all of this Sturm und Drang. And what if Adelson decides to take his money and go build another stadium (for soccer, perhaps)?

One winner out of this is MGM Resorts, which opposed the idea of a publicly funded stadium but supported the LVCVA expansion, and now has its privately financed arena all alone on the Strip. (Disclosure: MGM Resorts is a $250,000 donor to The Nevada Independent.)

But, in the end, there are no winners. Adelson is furious and out for blood. The Raiders have destroyed any good will with their greed. And the politicians who bent over backwards to please the two parties are now doing rhetorical contortions to explain their behavior.

For everyone with a stake in the game, as Mark Davis’ father would never have said, it comes down to this: Just lose, baby.
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https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/inside-sheldon-adelsons-withdrawal-raiders-stadium-deal
 
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Kastrioti

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wienke said:
Don't think you know what you're advocating

I want Stafford to get a 10 year $500 million contract - fully guaranteed personally!
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When you've got teams like the Texans paying $18 Million a year to Brock Osweiller that's just the way the QB market is.

Stafford is a Top 5 QB at 29 years old, he's going to get at least Andrew Luck numbers.
 
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KYLE SHANAHAN TEMPORARILY LOSES FALCONS PLAYBOOK AT SUPER BOWL 51 OPENING NIGHT
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According to ESPN.com's Dan Graziano, Jarrett Bell of USA Today discovered that San Francisco Examiner writer Art Spander had accidentally picked up Shanahan's bag containing his playbook and Super Bowl tickets.

Shanahan said the following during the crisis: "I'm stressed out right now. Somebody took my bag, and it had everything in it."

The bag was returned to Shanahan after 15 minutes of searching at the conclusion of the media session.
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I guess the cheats are "winning" another *
 
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This Raiders thing is so dumb. From the very first day this was talked about their was talk that Alderson was using this deal to own a part of a team, since the league would never approve him to buy a team on his own. It was incredibly stupid for Mark Davis to get in bed with a casino owner in the first place.
 
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Bread said:
lol what how can you not blame the chargers

the owner is a greedy prick
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Yeah out of all of the team moves the Chargers is the worst. The NFL wanted them to stay, and the city was willing to help them build a stadium. The only problem is Dean Spanos is so hated there. Any other owner would have gotten a sweetheart deal from the city to stay.
 
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yankeehater said:
Yeah out of all of the team moves the Chargers is the worst. The NFL wanted them to stay, and the city was willing to help them build a stadium. The only problem is Dean Spanos is so hated there. Any other owner would have gotten a sweetheart deal from the city to stay.
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nah, they weren't getting any good deal from the city. people here are very against taxpayers funding any part of the stadium.
 
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Bread said:
nah, they weren't getting any good deal from the city. people here are very against taxpayers funding any part of the stadium.
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Right but the plan was to use a tourist tax. The guy I heard explain it on the radio said that it didnt pass because the city didnt educate or inform people about it because they hate Dean so much and that if the city had it would have passed. SD had deals in place for the SB, the NCAA tournament, and CFB bowl games, all contingent on getting a new stadium.
 
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Kastrioti said:
Irrelevant considering Stafford is only 29 years old and took over the worst franchise in NFL history.

He would've won plenty of playoff games and probably a Super Bowl long ago if he played in the AFC South.
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He's older than Brock. The Lions went 2-2 versus the AFC South, losing to the two teams over .500. They would have to play against teams over .500 in the playoffs. Remind how they did against .500 teams this year?
 
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MechDX

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Kastrioti said:
Irrelevant considering Stafford is only 29 years old and took over the worst franchise in NFL history.

He would've won plenty of playoff games and probably a Super Bowl long ago if he played in the AFC South.
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this_guy said:
He's older than Brock. The Lions went 2-2 versus the AFC South, losing to the two teams over .500. They would have to play against teams over .500 in the playoffs. Remind how they did against .500 teams this year?
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need some alternative facts here.
 
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Bread

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Dutch Gronk said:
I drove on that beautiful piece of architecture!
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You are always welcome back, Grovo on the other hand...

yankeehater said:
Right but the plan was to use a tourist tax. The guy I heard explain it on the radio said that it didnt pass because the city didnt educate or inform people about it because they hate Dean so much and that if the city had it would have passed. SD had deals in place for the SB, the NCAA tournament, and CFB bowl games, all contingent on getting a new stadium.
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Actually the plan was a lot more complicated than a simple tourist tax. If the tax didn't generate enough revenue, the taxpayers would have to make up the difference, and it was no sure thing the tax would be enough to cover the stadium.
 
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Dutch Gronk said:
Born ready,

It has been an accepted reality for as long as I aspired to do this, so I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be (which probably isn't much). I did actually discuss with Bae that she needs to be prepared to never see me again after I graduate for at least 5 years, so that's something).
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They payoff is worth it in the end, if you can survive it. He now makes as a bonus nearly what my entire salary is per year. I'm a software developer in a major city so my salary is already probably top 20% of US earners.
 
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