What is your issue with Peppers? Is it just a Michigan/OSU thing?
About to head home from work and Ill get the pick in then
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NFL 2017 Offseason thread |OT2| - I Mean Look What Our Teams Did For Us!
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What is your issue with Peppers? Is it just a Michigan/OSU thing?
About to head home from work and Ill get the pick in then
Himynameischris
Member
Texans-gaf have 5 min to submit pick or I'll draft a QB for them.
Don't listen to floy. I've been watching that battle red blog guys film breakdowns for a bunch of prospects and his Peppers video gave me a new perspective on him. He'd be great on the Texans
Yes. Floy is tsundere for our boy Harbs.
Brett does great on those film room studies.
FloydtheFathead
Member
Because if I'm drafting a safety, I'd rather pick up CDY's boy Budda Baker most likely (or my boy Malik.. I can still dream damn it) or if I want a better LB, we can draft TJ Watt. If I want a corner, I can sure as hell find a better corner (Jourdan Lewis, a solid Michigan man whose underrated I would argue and one of the top man coverage corners in the draft)
This eagerness to paint him as Charles Woodson 2.0 is just annoying. Sure he's athletic, but the thing Woodson had was instinct which compared to Peppers, he trounces him completely in even in college.
It's not that I hate peppers.. it's that you can find someone who does one particular thing extremely well whereas Peppers does several things ok. He will be fine with the Texans as there is enough talent there where he can blend in and have an impact in his way.
I do too for the record
Take it back
BlackGhost
Banned
Can't wait for Peppers to be a Brown at 33.....
Himynameischris
Member
Texans-Gaf trades their 1st round pick to the Browns for Brock!
There's a separate thread for fantasy football.
BlackGhost
Banned
My Myles Garrett cover ESPN the magazine came. Based Mobile continues to service a boy
Alligatorjandro
Banned
You need to leave
Yeah really helped me learn more about new prospects. Wish he would've done more but I'll take what I can get
I don't think people are still talking about him compared to Woodson. In fact, most people are really down on Peppers now. He's versatile and while he may not excel at any one thing, he'd be a good fit for the Texans and could fill in several holes.
There's a separate thread for fantasy talk, and there's nothing to talk about right now
Expectation is Texans will try to sign Jadeveon Clowney to a mega deal in 2018 if he repeats 2016 success this season
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/853005171433115649
If he has another good year having him, Watt and Mercilus under contract the next 3-4 years can be fun
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/853005171433115649
If he has another good year having him, Watt and Mercilus under contract the next 3-4 years can be fun
You should be permanently banned from NeoGAF for this heresy
How about you frig off
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Frig off, Barb
A new contender for pick 25 appears.....
I like your never give up attitude. Whats your 40 time?
Sween bae what is wrong with uMe breaking off my love with Bread like
With the 25th pick the 2017 NFL Mock Draft the Houston Texans select:
Jabrill Peppers, Safety, University of Michigan
While the "popular" choice here for the talking heads is "QBQBQB!" that is not Rick Smith's M.O. in drafts. Majority of the time he goes defense in the first round and has NEVER drafted a QB before the 4th round in his tenure as GM. I still believe in the real draft they pass QB here but try to get back into the late first round and draft Kizer or Webb. They were never "all in" on Romo or he would have been there. Savage is O'Briens guy, spending 3 years learning the system, and will get a full off season working with the starters to show what he can do.
Peppers fills really the only "glaring" hole in the Texans secondary. A safety who can play in the box to help stop the run and can drop back from the LB position to cover tight ends out of the backfield. Mike Vrabel has been schooled on being the defensive coordinator by Romeo Crennel and will utilize Peppers blitzing ability. How do you stop Peppers when you are accounting for Watt, Clowney and Mercilus already?
the reasoning for this pick over Robinson is Peppers versatility. O'Briens mantra has always been "the more you can do". Well Peppers can help a lifeless return game, be utilized in the backfield with Lamar Miller and even be thrown into the slot WR spot on offense. They will address the RT spot somewhere in rounds 3-4.
Jabrill Peppers, Safety, University of Michigan
While the "popular" choice here for the talking heads is "QBQBQB!" that is not Rick Smith's M.O. in drafts. Majority of the time he goes defense in the first round and has NEVER drafted a QB before the 4th round in his tenure as GM. I still believe in the real draft they pass QB here but try to get back into the late first round and draft Kizer or Webb. They were never "all in" on Romo or he would have been there. Savage is O'Briens guy, spending 3 years learning the system, and will get a full off season working with the starters to show what he can do.
Peppers fills really the only "glaring" hole in the Texans secondary. A safety who can play in the box to help stop the run and can drop back from the LB position to cover tight ends out of the backfield. Mike Vrabel has been schooled on being the defensive coordinator by Romeo Crennel and will utilize Peppers blitzing ability. How do you stop Peppers when you are accounting for Watt, Clowney and Mercilus already?
the reasoning for this pick over Robinson is Peppers versatility. O'Briens mantra has always been "the more you can do". Well Peppers can help a lifeless return game, be utilized in the backfield with Lamar Miller and even be thrown into the slot WR spot on offense. They will address the RT spot somewhere in rounds 3-4.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
The QB Dream...............is dead..
Himynameischris
Member
With the Twenty-Fifth Pick of the NFL-Gaf Mock Draft...
Giants-Gaf I need a write up from you guys
Seahawks are up! They have until 10pm pst
26. Seattle Seahawks - cdy
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Dallas Cowboys - cashman
29. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu - Slo
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
31. Atlanta Falcons
32. New Orleans Saints (from Patriots) - dionysus
Rules:
Teams without a team will be group pick, first choice to three votes or pick with most votes in two hours get auto-selected.
Remember the pick is who you think your team will pick not who you want (you hear that Mech??)
Write a quick write up on why your team will make that pick and how he fits your team.
Texans-Gaf Selects: said:
1. Cleveland Browns - Flo,BG
Myles Garrett, DE - Texas A&Mhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233646159&postcount=4850
2. San Francisco 49ers - bigosc2k, Doomsayer, TheSkullPrince
Marshon Lattimore, CB of the Ohio State Buckeyes
3. Chicago Bears - NFL-Gaf
Solomon Thomas, DE - Stanford
4. Jacksonville Jaguars - NFL-Gaf
Leonard Fournette, RB - LSU
5. Tennessee Titans (from Los Angeles Rams) - NFL-Gaf
Mike Williams, WR - Clemson
6. New York Jets - Fox
O.J. Howard, TE - Alabama
7. Los Angeles Chargers - NFL-Gaf
Malik Hooker, S -Ohio State
8. Carolina Panthers - Grover
Jonathan Allen, DL - Alabama
9. Cincinnati Bengals - NFL-Gaf
Reuben Foster, LB - Alabama
10. Buffalo Bills - NFL-Gaf
Jamal Adams, S - LSU
11. New Orleans Saints - dionysus
Derek Barnett, DE - Tennessee
12. Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia Eagles) - Flo, BG
Mitchell Trubisky, QB - UNC
13. Arizona Cardinals - NFL-Gaf
Patrick Mahomes, QB - Texas Tech
14. Philadelphia Eagles (from Minnesota Vikings) - Hindl
Corey Davis, WR - Western Michigan
15. Indianapolis Colts - NFL-Gaf
Ryan Ramczyk, OT - Wisconsin
16. Baltimore Ravens - Blarry
Takkarist Mckinley, DE - UCLA
17. Washington Redskins - NFL-Gaf
Haason Reddick, LB - Temple
18. Tennessee Titans - NFL-Gaf
Gaereon Conley, CB - Ohio State
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Syrinx
Christian McCaffrey, RB - Stanford.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233889842&postcount=5786
20. Denver Broncos - NFL-Gaf
Garett Bolles, T - Utah
21. Detroit Lions - Kastrioti
Taco Charlton, DE - Michigan
22. Miami Dolphins - Dolphins-Gaf (;_
Forrest Lamp, G - West Kentucky
23. New York Giants - BigAT, Futurevoid, Striker
David Njoku, TE - Miami
24. Oakland Raiders - Officerrob
Jarrad Davis, LB - Florida
25. Houston Texans - Dutch, Mech
Jabrill Peppers, S - University of Michigan
Giants-Gaf I need a write up from you guys
Seahawks are up! They have until 10pm pst
26. Seattle Seahawks - cdy
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Dallas Cowboys - cashman
29. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu - Slo
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
31. Atlanta Falcons
32. New Orleans Saints (from Patriots) - dionysus
Rules:
Teams without a team will be group pick, first choice to three votes or pick with most votes in two hours get auto-selected.
Remember the pick is who you think your team will pick not who you want (you hear that Mech??)
Write a quick write up on why your team will make that pick and how he fits your team.
The Seattle Seahawks select Washington CB Kevin King.
I could see the Hawks doing a wide variety of things with this pick in reality depending on how the draft goes, but OL and CB are their biggest needs.
With Deshawn Shead coming off a major injury and his playing status for this season in question (and the persistent rumours surrounding Richard Sherman's future in Seattle), the Seahawks go CB here for both the present (playing across from Sherman this season while Shead recovers) and the future (taking over the CB1 spot if Sherman gets traded after the season).
King has the prototypical size and speed the Hawks look for in a corner, tying or testing better than Sherman in every Combine drill and physical measurement except the bench press. He's battle tested, having played across from a CB (Sidney Jones) that many expected to be a high-first-round pick prior to his Achilles injury. Despite being the "easier" CB to go after in the pass-happy Pac-12, King allowed just one touchdown in his last 28 games in college.
I could see the Hawks doing a wide variety of things with this pick in reality depending on how the draft goes, but OL and CB are their biggest needs.
With Deshawn Shead coming off a major injury and his playing status for this season in question (and the persistent rumours surrounding Richard Sherman's future in Seattle), the Seahawks go CB here for both the present (playing across from Sherman this season while Shead recovers) and the future (taking over the CB1 spot if Sherman gets traded after the season).
King has the prototypical size and speed the Hawks look for in a corner, tying or testing better than Sherman in every Combine drill and physical measurement except the bench press. He's battle tested, having played across from a CB (Sidney Jones) that many expected to be a high-first-round pick prior to his Achilles injury. Despite being the "easier" CB to go after in the pass-happy Pac-12, King allowed just one touchdown in his last 28 games in college.
I'm not convinced King will even be there when we draft for real, so I could easily see Robinson being the pick.Russell is dead man walking.
Oh and fuck the Chefs. Give them a kicker!
Sweeney Tom
Banned
On one hand, I must admit it's impressive he's the only one to survive this
On the other hand, law of averages says either he or BOB go in the aftermath of this season, and considering all the others have fallen, and he hasn't been the starter in all those years likely for a good reason, I'm thinking he's the next to fall. Can't survive everything.
Himynameischris
Member
With the Twenty-Sixth Pick of the NFL-Gaf Mock Draft...
Giants-Gaf I need a write up from you guys
Cheifs are up! Group Pick, first to three wins
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Dallas Cowboys - cashman
29. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu - Slo
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
31. Atlanta Falcons
32. New Orleans Saints (from Patriots) - dionysus
Rules:
Teams without a team will be group pick, first choice to three votes or pick with most votes in two hours get auto-selected.
Remember the pick is who you think your team will pick not who you want (you hear that Mech??)
Write a quick write up on why your team will make that pick and how he fits your team.
Seahawks-Gaf Selects: said:
1. Cleveland Browns - Flo,BG
Myles Garrett, DE - Texas A&Mhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233646159&postcount=4850
2. San Francisco 49ers - bigosc2k, Doomsayer, TheSkullPrince
Marshon Lattimore, CB of the Ohio State Buckeyes
3. Chicago Bears - NFL-Gaf
Solomon Thomas, DE - Stanford
4. Jacksonville Jaguars - NFL-Gaf
Leonard Fournette, RB - LSU
5. Tennessee Titans (from Los Angeles Rams) - NFL-Gaf
Mike Williams, WR - Clemson
6. New York Jets - Fox
O.J. Howard, TE - Alabama
7. Los Angeles Chargers - NFL-Gaf
Malik Hooker, S -Ohio State
8. Carolina Panthers - Grover
Jonathan Allen, DL - Alabama
9. Cincinnati Bengals - NFL-Gaf
Reuben Foster, LB - Alabama
10. Buffalo Bills - NFL-Gaf
Jamal Adams, S - LSU
11. New Orleans Saints - dionysus
Derek Barnett, DE - Tennessee
12. Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia Eagles) - Flo, BG
Mitchell Trubisky, QB - UNC
13. Arizona Cardinals - NFL-Gaf
Patrick Mahomes, QB - Texas Tech
14. Philadelphia Eagles (from Minnesota Vikings) - Hindl
Corey Davis, WR - Western Michigan
15. Indianapolis Colts - NFL-Gaf
Ryan Ramczyk, OT - Wisconsin
16. Baltimore Ravens - Blarry
Takkarist Mckinley, DE - UCLA
17. Washington Redskins - NFL-Gaf
Haason Reddick, LB - Temple
18. Tennessee Titans - NFL-Gaf
Gaereon Conley, CB - Ohio State
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Syrinx
Christian McCaffrey, RB - Stanford.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233889842&postcount=5786
20. Denver Broncos - NFL-Gaf
Garett Bolles, T - Utah
21. Detroit Lions - Kastrioti
Taco Charlton, DE - Michigan
22. Miami Dolphins - Dolphins-Gaf (;_
Forrest Lamp, G - West Kentucky
23. New York Giants - BigAT, Futurevoid, Striker
David Njoku, TE - Miami
24. Oakland Raiders - Officerrob
Jarrad Davis, LB - Florida
25. Houston Texans - Dutch, Mech
Jabrill Peppers, S - University of Michigan
26. Seattle Seahawks - cdy
Kevin King, CB - Washington
Giants-Gaf I need a write up from you guys
Cheifs are up! Group Pick, first to three wins
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Dallas Cowboys - cashman
29. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu - Slo
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
31. Atlanta Falcons
32. New Orleans Saints (from Patriots) - dionysus
Rules:
Teams without a team will be group pick, first choice to three votes or pick with most votes in two hours get auto-selected.
Remember the pick is who you think your team will pick not who you want (you hear that Mech??)
Write a quick write up on why your team will make that pick and how he fits your team.
Was just thinking the same thing
On one hand, I must admit it's impressive he's the only one to survive this
On the other hand, law of averages says either he or BOB go in the aftermath of this season, and considering all the others have fallen, and he hasn't been the starter in all those years likely for a good reason, I'm thinking he's the next to fall. Can't survive everything.
he was always a project but a project with huge upside potential. Rookie year was rushed into play after 3 QB's went down and injured on a cheap shot from a Colts player. 2nd year placed on IR after getting slammed to the turf in the 4th preseason game. Still dont know why the placed him on IR as it was his left shoulder and he was healthy by week 4.
Story was last year he was going to permanently replace Osweiler in the Packers game but then had that freaky skin infection on his arm.
Now he is going to get his chance with an entire off season taking first team reps. At minimum we get to see what he has learned.
FloydtheFathead
Member
Yes or Cook (Charles is done)
On one hand, I must admit it's impressive he's the only one to survive this
On the other hand, law of averages says either he or BOB go in the aftermath of this season, and considering all the others have fallen, and he hasn't been the starter in all those years likely for a good reason, I'm thinking he's the next to fall. Can't survive everything.
It's not that impressive when you notice he's the only one with the Drafted next to his name. That means cheap and team friendly contract.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
he was always a project but a project with huge upside potential. Rookie year was rushed into play after 3 QB's went down and injured on a cheap shot from a Colts player. 2nd year placed on IR after getting slammed to the turf in the 4th preseason game. Still dont know why the placed him on IR as it was his left shoulder and he was healthy by week 4.
Story was last year he was going to permanently replace Osweiler in the Packers game but then had that freaky skin infection on his arm.
Now he is going to get his chance with an entire off season taking first team reps. At minimum we get to see what he has learned.
I'm not saying he shouldn't start or anything, just that it taking so long for him to be put in that position makes me suspicious that there was a genuinely good reason for that.
And even if not, with the injury history (concussion this year, IR 2015-16) they could/should have done something in FA besides stick with just Weeden. Cutler and Kaep are right there, just to name two possible options. Not saying that instantly puts them in better shape in terms of contending, but that depth chart as is is going to look rough the second any big hits happen, and they will happen. I don't see any reason you don't make some move.
FloydtheFathead
Member
You pulled a Greg?
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