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NFL Offseason 2: Free Agency or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Squicken
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Grover Cleveland
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I think I'm going to go ahead and declare the Loser's Bracket over.
Panthers lost
Pats move to 4 on the OSI standings
Panthers lost
Pats move to 4 on the OSI standings
Futurevoid
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Hakeem deal perhaps:
Goro Majima
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Well the thing is that the dropoff for a receiver at about 35 is pretty drastic. I think long term based on age, Edelman has more upside.
That said, he is a Patriots receiver and I don't trust any of those outside of the system. Really the only correct answer to both options is "neither".
Goro Majima
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That's just damning evidence of the league's opinion of Nicks. I tend to trust the Giants fans on this board about their own players and they (Futurevoid especially) didn't sound too high on him. Looks like 30 other teams (minus the Raiders because no one wants to play there) more or less agreed.
edit: James Jones going to take the veteran minimum from TT at this rate.
Alligatorjandro
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Seahawk fans, how good is Browner?
FrenchMovieTheme
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indeed i did. that is actually a great signing for them. he has arguably been our best CB the past 3 years after i had called him Terrible Brown for sometime. a real shame that his agent got him fucked out of $2 mil but i hope he got paid by oakland. good luck to him
Himynameischris
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If Jared Allen is shopping around for more then Ware money he might be every disappointed.
Not sure. No PED card in MA or RI...but he can get a weed card.
FrenchMovieTheme
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just run slants on him and you will have great success
Grover Cleveland
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James Jones
Sidney Rice
Julian Edelman
Brandon Lafell
Sidney Rice
Julian Edelman
Brandon Lafell
Alligatorjandro
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what about deep passes
Hell probably play safety with dennard and ryan there anyways.
Futurevoid
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I actually wouldn't mind James Jones coming to the Giants for the right price. Veteran presence alongside Cruz, Randle and Jernigan and a good player.
Indy plays the Giants this season, too. You can already hear the narrative.
Alligatorjandro
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m
Brandon Browner never intended to visit the #Redskins. The interest from #Raiders & #Saints wasnt real. It was the #Patriots the whole time
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Brandon Browner never intended to visit the #Redskins. The interest from #Raiders & #Saints wasnt real. It was the #Patriots the whole time
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Futurevoid
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LyleLanley
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He's visiting the Rams and, given the Jeff Fisher connection, he'll probably end up there.
I'm trying to be patient and see Gettleman's plan, but right now the plan seems to be 2-14 again.
Wonder what would happen if Cam decides he wants out after next season...
Nemesis121
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The Giants don't want any thing to do with him, Gettleman who has many connections within the Giants org must know the reason why the Giants let him walk..
Damnit. Get him on a one year deal and hell explode... until he gets hurt.
Market is drying up for teams that need corners. Plus we don't know how much was guaranteed in the deal.
Grover Cleveland
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Shame Us for Jameis
Goro Majima
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The "right price" is probably a lot less than Jones is expecting either way.
He was already making $3 million per year and I have a feeling that we're not exactly offering more money for a 30 year old receiver.
And I can't believe DRC turned down $9 million/year. He'll probably do something stupid like take a $11 million one year contract in a "prove it" deal instead.
Futurevoid
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I think the plan is to get some level of cap relief for better or worse. That may mean eating a year or two. Cam is due for a contract next season isn't he?
I mean your top 5 players would destroy you in dead money if you cut them in the next year or two. Stewarts contract in particular is amazingly bad. My god!
Yeah, don't disagree. Giants aren't going to offer him a big money contract but I would be good if we signed him for 3 million.
Grover Cleveland
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Officerrob
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Decent
Goro Majima
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What makes it great is that there was so much publicity out there during the lockout that Jerry Richardson is a cheapskate owner who doesn't pay his players. So he immediately took out these Al Davis style contracts to prove otherwise the moment he could. So I'm not sure if it's that guy's fault or what.
Futurevoid
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Looking at the numbers, even if you cut Stewart in 2015, you wouldn't save a penny and actually OWE 5.3 million towards the cap PLUS 13.6 million in dead money. Even with a post June-1st designation you aren't getting back much.
Stewart is laughing all the way to the bank with that deal. He's not remotely cuttable until 2016 and even then you're still dealing over 7 million in dead money you'd have to spread around if you went post-June 1st.
:jnc
I'm happy with the Pettigrew signing. We all know he's a great run blocking tight end, but I do think he improved his pass catching abilities last season. He still needs to improve but for all the doom and gloom talk about the Lions cap situation we signed Golden Tate and resigned Brandon Pettigrew.
Once again Martin Mayhew working magic. So with Pettigrew and Joe Fauria locked up, tight end won't be a need for us in the draft. We're set with most positions. Just need to get one more wide receiver and the rest of this stacked draft we can focus on secondary, one more linebacker, and IMO one more running back.
This is how you build a team. Put your cap money in a stud Quarterback, the best WR in the game and the best defensive lineman in the league. Then fill the gaps with young players through the draft. We'll probably cut ties with Nick Fairley when his rookie contract is up but we'll replace him in an upcoming draft.
MetalFearSolid
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Nicks signed for a single year??! For 3.5 million wow this market. I wonder what Edelman is expecting.
Goro Majima
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Should be easy to do as often as you draft in the top 10.
I admire your optimism but it's my obligation to take a dump on every :kas post
Himynameischris
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We probably killed the WR market for a few years because of Wallace,
DeaconKnowledge
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Interesting article on which team most keep their players. Steelers top the list. Raiders, Redskins, and the Giants (!) are at the bottom.
Steelers are also the biggest supplier of talent to other teams relative to the players they take from other teams, followed by the Panthers and Dolphins. Data is taken from the 2013 season.
League also doesn't want shit to do with Pats system players. Who knew?
Steelers are also the biggest supplier of talent to other teams relative to the players they take from other teams, followed by the Panthers and Dolphins. Data is taken from the 2013 season.
League also doesn't want shit to do with Pats system players. Who knew?
Grover Cleveland
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Marvin McNutt was pretty good in college right?
Futurevoid
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You're surprised? We draft, get our four years out of them, draft their replacement in year 3 and move on so we don't have to pay big money. Outside of the big ticket guys they identify like Cruz, etc. Just about the entire 2007/2008 draft class is gone. Will Beatty is the last man standing from '09. Andre Brown as well but he's an UFA.
Been like that for the last 10 years or so.
Kinda surprised the Packers aren't even higher. Weren't all but like five of their players last year lifetime Packers? Though I suppose a lot of them could have been young players.
We cut Satele and Link. That's already an upgrade!
I'm just glad it's a reasonable 1yr deal. Let's see if he tried to earn a bigger payday next year. He better show up to practice!
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