Alex Smith is better than what you got. Also better than wasting a 1st on Geno or whatever other bum coming into the draft
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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Alex Smith is better than what you got. Also better than wasting a 1st on Geno or whatever other bum coming into the draft
ZootedGranny
Member
Well, I've already lived 31 years without my team winning anything of consequence, what's another 4 or 5? Let the neverending cycle of collecting other teams' quarterbacks continue.
What happens if you lose?
B For Bendetta
Member
You can have Bustford when we draft a QB next year
AngmarsKing701
Member
Your 3DS is bricked and you need to buy another one. New Ninty policy to increase sales.
BaltimoreLarry
Member
Holy shit, I charisma'ed the balls off of everyone at that interview. East coast charm goes over really well in the West coast, it's almost unfair. I'll be shocked if I don't get this job.
Fire Emblem is great; totally worth buying a 3DS for. Which is what I did.
Fire Emblem is great; totally worth buying a 3DS for. Which is what I did.
I credit the Ravens' win to providing you with this newfound confidence. Flacco turned your life around, dude.
BaltimoreLarry
Member
I've always had too much confidence, which gets me into trouble, ie fights I don't win. If anything, being wrong about Flacco humbled me, but in the most awesome way.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
LOL. East coast charm. Okay.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
its like any other fight. if you're playing the MANS version and death = permanent... even in this skirmishes!
BaltimoreLarry
Member
It's a fact. At work, socially, with women, I've just done better since I moved out here. It could be the fact that I was using heroin when I lived on the East coast which hindered those things, but I like to attribute it to the Charm City charm. They should do a study.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
your best friend also has a way with women you are married to as well. i need to obtain this east coast charm!
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Maybe its just because your from a different area. Its like when I went to Rome. I'm American, they were all over me.
Better to not reach on a bad QB and let Alex or Kolb mind the store for a year. I actually think KC could have a heck of a turnaround next year. Awful division and weak conference. Playoffs are unlikely, but 7 or 8 wins are possible
BaltimoreLarry
Member
Even though you're trying to be a dick, you're still proving my point, since he was from the East Coast too.
Hope Eagles cut Nnamdi, bring him back to Oakland with a hometown discount. A man can wish
Look for the Lions to pick him up.
The lions will take him!
Dream Team!
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Not even funny.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Hope Eagles cut Nnamdi, bring him back to Oakland with a hometown discount. A man can wish
He should go to the Pats now that Dennard might could go to jail.
B For Bendetta
Member
You're crazy. They say that every year. About the eagles too. They will be hot garbage next year
ZootedGranny
Member
This will probably be uninteresting babble, but...
A few years ago I would agree, but with the rookie cap, drafting a QB doesn't financially handcuff your team. I admit, it does probably hold you to playing him for two to three years, but only because most franchises aren't bold enough to cut their losses on a quarterback.
By bringing in A. Smith/Kolb/etc, you probably hover around .500 in the first year, maybe get a playoff birth within two to three years. While this is happening, you're now hoping that either a QB drops to you, or that you can package the picks to trade up.
The top two QBs in this class (in my opinion Geno Smith & Tiny Hands Tyler Wilson) obviously aren't Luck/RG3, but the "no qb worthy of the first round" narrative is insane to me, especially with how terrible a lot of teams QBs' are.
A lot of teams' QBs aren't or weren't worthy of going in the first round, though.
You have to play the game with perma death. It is not fire emblem without that.
I am playing on hard as well. Which is doable but I was surprised at some of the earlier stages, which really require you to be careful and plan things out carefully so as not to lose anyone. Normally the first third of the game is super easy and you are just using it to level up your weak characters (who usually become awesomest).
Patriot-Fan mode.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
you're right that was a low blow. i will go watch some superbowl highlights to make it up to you
Holy Shit! Dredd is fucking awesome. Over under on Oscars is 15
I have seen the idea floated that KC takes the BPA at #1, then moves back up to take their QB late in the first. Since it's a deep but not star-studded draft, the cost of moving up should be lower than usual. I would say that all of the rookie QBs will be flawed, and probably not ready to start. Tanniehill and maybe even Weeden would have gone ahead of all these guys
So you will need Kolb or Alex for a year or two while Reid coaches up the new guy. I would just hope they don't do some dumb trade for Foles
I have seen the idea floated that KC takes the BPA at #1, then moves back up to take their QB late in the first. Since it's a deep but not star-studded draft, the cost of moving up should be lower than usual. I would say that all of the rookie QBs will be flawed, and probably not ready to start. Tanniehill and maybe even Weeden would have gone ahead of all these guys
So you will need Kolb or Alex for a year or two while Reid coaches up the new guy. I would just hope they don't do some dumb trade for Foles
BlackGhost
Banned
excerpt From Claytons Mailbag: Combine observations
This kinda goes with what I've been saying for awhile that I think we want a read option Qb for the future.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Ryan Mallet for the 1st pick
AngmarsKing701
Member
It's interesting that we see this trend in QBs.
Remember Kordell Stewart? Randall Cunningham? Steve McNair?
I was noticing in one of the games that the D started to just hit the QB. You wanna run the option? Ok, we're going to have one guy whose job it is to hit the QB whether he still has the ball or just let go of it.
If your QB takes 30 hits per game, I hope you have a good backup.
The interesting thing about all the QBs mentioned above is that none of them won a Super Bowl.
Remember Kordell Stewart? Randall Cunningham? Steve McNair?
Michael Vick?
I was noticing in one of the games that the D started to just hit the QB. You wanna run the option? Ok, we're going to have one guy whose job it is to hit the QB whether he still has the ball or just let go of it.
If your QB takes 30 hits per game, I hope you have a good backup.
The interesting thing about all the QBs mentioned above is that none of them won a Super Bowl.
BlackGhost
Banned
In today's NFL I think it's alittle harder to get away with blatant hits like that to the Qb. And although they might have never won a SuperBowl alot of those guys were great Qbs, steve McNair had a pretty good career. Not all great Qbs in history have won Superbowls.
You kinda sound like Matt Barkley
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Well I'd imagine that after quitting heroin, you probably have the confidence to do anything so that probably translates when you talk to chicks and people.
AngmarsKing701
Member
In today's NFL I think it's alittle harder to get away with blatant hits like that to the Qb. And although they might have never won a SuperBowl alot of those guys were great Qbs, steve McNair had a pretty good career. Not all great Qbs in history have won Superbowls.
You kinda sound like Matt Barkley
Well Barkley has a point. Until one of these read-option / run-capable QBs actually wins the SB, then your standard pocket passing QB is winning them.
While I agree some of these guys had great careers, that's not why teams are in the NFL. The goal is to win the Super Bowl.
I'm not saying it won't happen for a read-option QB, but you can be damn sure that defensive coordinators are watching film right this very minute and figuring out ways to stop the read-option.
FrenchMovieTheme
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I guarantee Barkley never approaches kaps passing stats even. People keep focusing on the read option or pistol or whatever... It's just a formation!
It's like saying oh well Peyton manning can't succeed because he plays out of the shotgun so much!
It's not the wildcat where you have a guy that can't throw running the formation
It's like saying oh well Peyton manning can't succeed because he plays out of the shotgun so much!
It's not the wildcat where you have a guy that can't throw running the formation
Not all pocket passers win a SB. And there have been very few run capable QBs who have enough talent to also throw. So you are comparing a hand full of QBs who can run to majority who are pocket passers.
Doesn't mean every QB now needs to be or should be run capable but its obvious that if you can run and throw you can be really good, especially if the coaching staff is smart enough to design an offense around those skills. Ravens didn't simply win because Flacco is a pocket passer and Kap isn't.
GLORIOUS WEEDEN FUTURE (sorta) CONFIRMED
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/team/1361635352-996-497/browns-ceo-joe-banner-says.htmlCleveland Plain Dealer said:
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I think Kaep will come back down to earth this season once defenses scheme for those formations. He'll still be good though so I'm not a complete hater!
On the other hand, you can't fix Barkley's garbage arm.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Anybody play Dishonored?Is it worth $40?
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
It's kind of blah. I've played it for 6 or 7 hours and I probably won't go back to it. You get "evil points" more or less for killing people. To be "good" you have to use stealth but stealth in the game is wonky and sort of broken (also incredibly time consuming in a not fun, non-Splinter Cell kind of way).
The high point of the game is the setting.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Didn't Atlanta and Baltimore already do that? He didn't have big running games.
Even against the packers I would say aside from the legendary run he hurt you guys most scrambling, not from the read option.
People want these qbs to regress because its "not fair" to have qbs like this. Unfortunately for the rest of the league most of these guys can pass and defenses having to prepare for the read option is just more time they aren't preparing for something else
Based Weeden!
Alligatorjandro
Banned
think I'll pass on it for now then
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Vick also took a dump on defenses in 2010 and look where that ended up.
One of two things happened with Kaep:
1. He was a flash in the pan like Vick
2. He completely revolutionized the way quarterbacks play
I think he has the ability to perfect his pocket passing to be more similar to the typical "elite" quarterback. I'm just not sold that Wilson, Kaep, and RG3 to some extent are trailblazing a new way to play the game that Brady and Manning couldn't hope to do when the sample size for these QBs is one year (half a year for Kaep).
Smart. They honestly have greater needs to fill, especially with a pick like that.
Not like any of these QBs are worth taking there anyways.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
It's not about a revolution of running qbs. If that's what this was about then tebow and Dixon and josh Johnson and whoever would've already set the league on fire. These are QBs that are very athletic but also skilled passers. There will always be pure pocket passers but why not have the ability to run too?
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
It's a dangerous way for a quarterback to live. I know my butthole clenches up every time Rodgers tucks it and runs. I'm not saying they should Schoob it and quit instead of running it but it's a dangerous thing to put an offense on. Someone should ask IRG3 or Vick how it works out.
DeaconKnowledge
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They could trade for one and still dump Weeden. Alex isn't going to cost a first.