The_Darkest_Red
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100 years of intense suffering as punishment for the "Monday Night Miracle." I was pushing for at least 200+ years but at least justice was partially done.
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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What is the Monday night Miracle?
Dutch Gronk
Banned
In 2000 on a monday night The Jest were down 23 points to the Dolphins at the start of the 4th and managed to win in OT.
They tied the game late in the 4th by throwing a TD to an offensive tackle.
The Euro ESPN always shows highlights like that of older games, during commercial breaks.
Didnt the reverse happen against the Jets with Marino? The fake spike?
Doesnt that make them a bit even?
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I was around 12 at the time and I remember watching the first three quarters and then going to bed thinking it was over. I woke up and instantly (relatively anyway, since dial-up was a thing) jumped on ESPN.com to see how it ended only to be greeted by the headline "Jet Fueled Comeback." I'll never forget it, man.
No number of buttfumbles is enough to forgive that day.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Good synopsis of the past two years frankly, though a little heavy handed.
Steelers are rebuilding. Championship run is over. Offense is young, and defense is old. That leads to bad football games.
And though they do have a takeaway problem, the numbers show that all the low takeaway teams are from recent years. Turnovers have been on a steady decline. Short passing game and QBs drilled since HS to not throw picks
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Yeah, I was never terribly worried about interceptions. Steelers were never big on ints - most of the ones we did get came from Troy making a play.
the big loss is forced fumbles. Steelers defense relies heavily on that pass rush and without it everything suffers, nothing more than forced fumbles. Steelers went on a run to end the season when Harrison finally got back to form. Doubt he has much left in the tank though.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I missed this yesterday:
Reggie Bush reportedly has interest from Detroit Lions
Kastrioti's dream team to assemble?
Reggie Bush reportedly has interest from Detroit Lions
Kastrioti's dream team to assemble?
BlackGhost
Banned
Did someone say and Tightend and BlackGhost in the same sentence?!
But I only want one high in the draft if we end up trading down and getting picks
If Reggie Bush wants to win he needs to come here. Its perfect for both parties.
Bush would work wonders for this team just based on the fact he'll keep defenses on check with potential screen/draw plays. That'll work wonders freeing up Megatron, Burleson, Pettigrew etc. Plus its awesome that Bush can line up in the slot as a WR which I don't think any RB in the league can do.
Bush or a RB like him is one of the few pieces we need to make us legit contenders. Another piece would be a playmaking DE or DB which we'll get with our #5 pick.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The Dolphins won 3 more games than the Lions last season and are in a great position to improve drastically in terms of draft picks and cap space, plus it will be the second year for the head coach and QB which should lead to even more improvement. What makes you think the Lions are so much better?
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Hahahahahaha
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Kastrioti, you rule.
Buckethead
Banned
Orcs typically age well.
Anton Sugar
Member
@PFF said:
@PFF said:
lol
Because Matthew Stafford is leading this team and the foundation has been laid around him in terms of young talent on both sides of the ball. The Dolphins had a decent year but we're infinetly more talented with Stafford, Megatron, Suh, Fairley, Louis Delmas etc.
Last year was an anomaly due to cockiness, bad luck and injuries. It humbled this team and I know will make us better for it. As long as Stafford has the right talent surronding him on offense, and the defensive line wreaks havok on opposing QBs we will be a team no one wants to play.
Spectral Glider
Member
That and the rule changes, can't touch QBs and DBs can't destroy guys who come over the middle anymore. And just wait till the league widens the field!
BlackGhost
Banned
What happend to LJ?
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
He got ari'd.
So now we get ghost stories and racist comments instead of insightful football posts.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Pretty damn good for a 21 year old who took over possibly the worst team in NFL history. He's won us at least 6 of those games with clutch, comeback victories.
IMO Staffords career started at the start of the 2011 season when he was finally healthy for a whole season and his stats have been close to the best in the league.
Let's not forget he is only 25 years old and he played with pretty much no RB last year. Take some of that pressure off him with Reggie Bush and watch out.
The stars are aligning for this young team. If we were being led by Shaun Hill I wouldn't hype this young team. Stafford is one of those QBs who has it* and God given talent.
*It is that successful component or it factor that all the great QBs throughout league history have had.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Lulz
Yeah, I give up.
"infinitely more talented"?
Let me know when Tannehill has back to back Pro Bowl seasons where he throws for 10000 plus yards and 60 TDs at a 2:1 ratio at 23-24 years old.
NFL GAF and most of the media has been consistently wrong about Stafford.
I remember getting in debates with dudes who would say Sanchez and Freeman were better QBs and getting laughed at.
He's proven all his doubters wrong since he came into the league and will continue to do so.
BlackGhost
Banned
Lmao
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Kap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stafford
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Who cares about Pro Bowls and useless numbers when you win 4 games in a season?
Despite having a fuck-awful year, Freeman was able to lead his team to almost twice as many wins as Tubby McCrisco.
Quit bringing up his age like it means he's going to make a drastic improvement. He ain't a fucking rookie. If anything he'll break and be out of the league before some of the 30yo QBs.
And still beat Favre's INT record. We all know that's what he's shooting for.
This is true, but our down year was not because of Stafford. It was because of bad coaching, shitty special teams, and bad play from our secondary/defensive ends. Not to mention Staffords second option toward the end of the season was his friend and walk on, who had no business being in the NFL.
We're going to have to wait for the 2013 season so Stafford can prove you guys and the media wrong yet again.
Gotta start work today fellas. This debate will continue, but all you have to do is watch film on Stafford and look at his stats. He's a gifted QB and that's all there is to it.
yankeehater
Member
I was going to jump on you for the stupidity about someone who wants to win coming to Detroit, but it seems like everyone has that covered. Instead I will focus on how little football you must watch to think that Bush is the only RB that can line up in the slot. Eagles use Shady as a WR all the fucking time. Jesus the Eagles have even played the Lions 2 of the last 3 years, so you have had plenty of chances to see how they use Shady.
You never truly leave the shame circle...
yankeehater
Member
Stafford had over 60 more attempts last year, but less then half as many TD's, and fewer yards. Even if you only care about stats he was still way down. The arrow is pointing downwards for Stafford.
There now he doesn't have to get out of bed.
Well then, I guess I'll just sit here quietly.
yankeehater
Member
I think you are right about it being coaching. I remember being super impressed by him when he first came into the league, but now he just chucks it up into double coverage and hopes Megatron will bail him out. He makes so many poor throws and poor decisions each game. Lions should have fired Schwartz and hired Reid, I think he could have worked wonders with Stafford.
mastershake
Member
Jesus Christ, Kastori, get off the mans dick.
You are the biggest single player stan in all of NFL-AGE
You are the biggest single player stan in all of NFL-AGE
Cutler is uncoachable. Stafford is just lazy.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Of course he doesn't want to talk about it. All anybody wants to mention is how he's getting shafted.
So everyone who gets lowballed by their team and paid shit is now a legend? That is like 98% of the NFL!
Bad news for Flacco. Dude is going to get paid so much it is going to hurt his legacy.
yankeehater
Member
Why do you keep trolling GAF with this? Brady got the most guaranteed money any NFL players ever has. He is going to get $60m no matter what now. He seems like a guy that is going to just fall off a cliff in terms of production, we can already see his arm strength evaporate. This is a crazy good deal for him. I highly doubt he would have gotten another $60m on his old deal, before the Pats cut him.
This seems to be Schaub's problem as well. An over-reliance on an elite WR to make all the plays. Brings the whole offense down.