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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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Not really, they gave up 3 firsts and a second to move up to draft him.
amishpriest99
Member
If they can get Mallett for a song (relatively speaking) then that would at least give Weeden some competition. Which I wouldn't necessarily mind.
They did suck for 2 seasons and had no answers at QB. Meant more that they were in a position of need to draft RG3, not that their draft position helped necessarily.
They needed a QB when Mike took over and they still two years later. It just so happened to be that it was the year of Luck and RG3.
I'm seeing a 2nd + 3rd. The 3rd can become a 2nd if chiefs win enough games.
BlackGhost
Banned
Harbaughs stay winning smh
I saw someone say it could be as low as a fifth or as high as a second.
I'm just saying 4th b/c I'm too lazy to type out conditional
also
http://www.pro-football-reference.c...lt&c4val=7.2&order_by=pass_yds&order_by_asc=Y
WTF Chiefs?
Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating
Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating
You have Andy Reid who is going to pass 40 times a game and you get Alex Smith? The Alex Smith who only looked good under a great O-Line and running game, and had a great D to boot. Somehow he will carry a team now without those 3 other things? I just don't see him being much of an upgrade over Cassel. I'm just sad there are no Chiefs fans here to laugh at.
Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating
Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating
You have Andy Reid who is going to pass 40 times a game and you get Alex Smith? The Alex Smith who only looked good under a great O-Line and running game, and had a great D to boot. Somehow he will carry a team now without those 3 other things? I just don't see him being much of an upgrade over Cassel. I'm just sad there are no Chiefs fans here to laugh at.
Pretty sure Reid wasn't going to be able to institute the Patriots system in KC.
Buckethead
Banned
$70 video game?
Go fuck yourself game industry.
Go fuck yourself game industry.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Cassell his Patriots year boosted his stats a bit, and he wasn't THAT bad in his first 2 years in KC. Plus from what I read, the Oline isn't all that bad over there, and if they use the first overall pick on it, it will be even better.
Their D is pretty good, with a solid LB group, including 2 pretty darn good pass rushers.
And they still have Jamaal Charles who seemed to be doing fairly well last year after his knee injury.
At least ps4 looks dope
yankeehater
Member
Yes he played well in a 3-4 years ago. He is older now though. Players skills decline over time. Hell the Eagles even tried to play him some at DE due to their run D being horrible and it failed big time.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Stop complaining, games will be 70 euros here then, that's like 90 dollars.
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Now I agree that they have a solid team, and the best young LB in the division, but for them to make it to the WC, they would need to finish with around 8 more wins than this year. They would need to make some serious other moves than only signing Smith to make that happen next year.
Depending on the schedule its possible. If you look at last year their defense held its own. The offense couldn't score or stay on the field so the defense suffered. Smith and Reid will remedy that. It will turn around fast imo.
Yeah but Alex had 2 years under Harbaugh so his stats are more inflated. Reid will be Reid and overuse Alex while under utilizing Charles.
There are a few Chiefs fans here...
And we don't have a o-line or running game? This is news to me and everyone else who follows the NFL.
The defense is also pretty stacked with talent -- it was a bad defensive scheme and offense that couldn't stay on the field that have plagued us. We'll no longer be running the 2 gap 3-4.. We'll be running a 1-gap this year.
BlackGhost
Banned
Uh oh things might get interesting
I paid that and more for 16 bit and that is my favorite generation of gaming.
Welcome to the 90s!
Chiefs still the Chefs. Alex is much better than Cassel but not worth a second, let alone a second and another pick.
Doesn't matter though, unless they're using those picks on deer antler spray for half their D Russell is still gonna tear that ass up.
At least this means we'll get compensated nicely if we trade HoFlynn.
Doesn't matter though, unless they're using those picks on deer antler spray for half their D Russell is still gonna tear that ass up.
At least this means we'll get compensated nicely if we trade HoFlynn.
Futurevoid
Member
Poor Cardinals.
yankeehater
Member
Kolb might actually win that competition. If Arians is going to run his get the QB hammered offense then they need like 3 or 4 QBs at least.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Heh, you've been all over Justin for quite a while now. So glad he decided to smoke up before the draft and fall to us.
Having him and Hali on the edge works great -- and he's pretty good in coverage and has great instincts.
He'll be a Chief for a long time.
They mean as a 2nd round pick right? As in they don't expect him to be available in the 2nd round?
Well they can always move up and grab a top flight DT. Pair him up with Aldon and that defense is back on track. I think the smarter move is to trade that Chiefs 2nd for Revis.
Didn't mean you guys were horrible in those areas just that compared to the 9ers your D, OL and run game aren't on par. Then you add Andy Reid and your running game will be much worse.
McCoy averaged about 1000 yard a season (he had 1300+ last year) the last four years and 4.6 yards per carry. Maybe time to relax on the "Reid teams can't run."
yankeehater
Member
Deuce and BWest also had some great years under Reid.
ZootedGranny
Member
Shoot me in the fucking face.
Yeah but that meme has really only sprung up since McCoy. I understand people complaining he doesn't run enough, but to pretend his teams are bad at running betrays your ignorance.
Tebow for your first
Don't be like that.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Like it's been said, he's better than anything in the draft. You're getting rid of Cassell on the upside!
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith's contract is heavily weighted to the first year effectively being a one year deal.
But our O-line and running game are "on par" with SF... 49ers were number 4 in team rushing while the Chiefs were all the way at number 5... Charles averaged 5.8 yards per touch.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
This really is a horrible year to not have a QB. I must say, having a team that isn't looking for one feels quite refreshing.
Futurevoid
Member
Excellent.
Also:
Word on the Marty B front is that the Giants are likely to let him walk. Talk about a TE in the first round of the draft aren't exactly crazy for the Giants. To be frank, if the Giants can get a Tyler Eifert at 19, I won't be complaining.
Also:
Word on the Marty B front is that the Giants are likely to let him walk. Talk about a TE in the first round of the draft aren't exactly crazy for the Giants. To be frank, if the Giants can get a Tyler Eifert at 19, I won't be complaining.
He should listen to me. I've already fixed the Browns and am well on my way to fixing the Chiefs.
Nice, got it done. Actually close to what I was expecting, which was in the 5 year, $35M range.
Martellus, your balls need you back.
ZootedGranny
Member
I would rather watch the Chiefs draft a quarterback at #1 overall and run the risk of him being a complete bust than have to watch the next 3 seasons of Alex Smith-Cassel take this team nowhere. And they paid a high price for the privilege.
sans_pants
avec_pénis
i fucking hate the new regime. so,so much