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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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For real, it's kinda hard to hate the guy.
Unless you're a Niner fan.
Luckily the Niners are in better shape than the Ravens.
I'd love Bennett back, but now if he's trying to get $2.5-3 million a year, because they cannot afford that with a big hole at DT and needing to re-sign Cruz and/or Nicks. Cook is a delight to watch though, but he's not a great fit in all schemes. He is likely to cost much more than Bennett, too.
As it seems now Giants will probably mangle with low tier FA's like Anthony Fasano to pair up with 2nd year guy Adrien Robinson. They still have Bear Pascoe and will probably take a TE in the draft, as well.
Going by recent events he would have a 17 sack season or he could be too involved being the ultimate Prius driving hipster and complete shit on the field.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Unsweetened tea? Disgraceful.
Ayup, it's becoming fsn1. Fox wants to become king of college sports, they're getting into a huge war with espn/abc.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
You Americans and your sugar with tea.
yankeehater
Member
McDonalds tea is so sweet it hurts my teeth. I have to get it unsweetened and then add sugar.
Plasticine
Member
Probably asked for some sweetner at the window. The sweet tea is disgusting. Might as well drink sugar water.
I'm conflicted.
For real, it's kinda hard to hate the guy.
Dude is Hank Hill in shoulder pads. I tell u what.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I don't like it so sweet that the sugar is the only thing you taste (I try to avoid "southern" style sweet tea) but I can't stand it unsweetened. Coffee on the other hand is best black.
McDonald's sweet tea is great.
Futurevoid
Member
Giants/Tom Coughlin interested in Honey Badger?
http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl...n-mathieu-lsu-cb-new-york-giants-honey-badger
Dwayne Bowe money:
http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl...n-mathieu-lsu-cb-new-york-giants-honey-badger
Dwayne Bowe money:
Isn't Tyrann pretty much very similiar to Jayron Hosley? Then again in Fewell's scheme, you want as many ballhawks in the secondary as possible.
Futurevoid
Member
If Hakeem stays healthy and has another big year in 2013, it's the type of contract he should see from the Giants as well.
I suppose having a number of good players isn't a bad thing for Reese, but he has a clear #1 in Hakeem who has had health issues in every season he's played.
He has a slot receiver that's put up big production in two season and who wants to be payed like a #1 and who hasn't missed a game since he became a starter.
Which do you pay? It's doubtful the Giants are able to dump 10-11 million per on both. Cruz is a Giant in 2013 whether he likes it or not unless some team is willing to pay him the 10/yr he wants and give up a first. The hope has to be that either someone else steps at the slot position making Cruz expendable or that someone like Reuben Randle can show he's a clear #1 and make Hakeem expendable.
Glad I'm not an NFL GM...
EDIT: Number breakdown for Bowe:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/05/bowe-moves-into-top-three-with-56-million-deal/
As a fan I would expect my star qb to take better care of himself.
I used to be one of his bigger fans but I think I am starting to hate him. Because of him Ray Lewis got to go out a champion. I was always hoping he left the game in chains.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Which is hilarious because he was looking for at least $12-14 million per year.
That was the number he made public. I imagine he was hoping for $10m or so.
Quite a favorable deal for a wide out. There is no way Jennings will get those same guarantees. Guaranteed $20m if he makes the roster next season. That's ballsy. Bowe seems like the kind of guy who will Antonio Freeman it starting the 4th day of next season.
Quite a favorable deal for a wide out. There is no way Jennings will get those same guarantees. Guaranteed $20m if he makes the roster next season. That's ballsy. Bowe seems like the kind of guy who will Antonio Freeman it starting the 4th day of next season.
Futurevoid
Member
Another WR coming off of the market:
Sounds like a lot...
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Maybe, but I don't want him leaving.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I actually think it'd be hilarious if Greg Jennings didn't end up in Miami and was exiled to Believeland instead.
Hartline's may be all incentives, who knows. Bowe was a big overpay.
What could you possibly have against Greg Jennings??
What could you possibly have against Greg Jennings??
Futurevoid
Member
Just saw this run across twitter. Just a quick flash of stats. There are obviously variables like the level of QB play Bowe has had to deal with by comparison, as well as the fact that Nicks/Cruz share the field while Bowe has almost nothing across from him (I'm sure there are more we could come up with) but just a general gauge of market value on pure numbers production:
Last 3 yrs for Bowe: 45 gms, 212 rec, 3122 yds, 23 TD
Last 3 yrs for Hakeem Nicks: 41 gms 208 rec, 2936 yds, 21 TD
Last 2 yrs for Victor Cruz: 30 gms, 168 rec, 2628 yds, 19 TDs
Last 3 yrs for Bowe: 45 gms, 212 rec, 3122 yds, 23 TD
Last 3 yrs for Hakeem Nicks: 41 gms 208 rec, 2936 yds, 21 TD
Last 2 yrs for Victor Cruz: 30 gms, 168 rec, 2628 yds, 19 TDs
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I have no idea how credible Bob McGinn is but he tweeted this a week or two ago:
If that's to be believed it doesn't look promising. If they don't take a WR in FA I really hope they go for one very early in the draft (as in, first or second pick).
it's hard to compare Bowe's stats to anyone because of how bad the quarterback situation was. Giants should tender Cruz and sign Nicks imo
BlackGhost
Banned
You don't get exiled to BelieveLand you monsters, you get permitted to BelieveLand
It's easier to replace Nicks.
For me, the number of oversized second contracts on this roster (Webster, Rolle, Snee, Diehl) are the impediment to getting our WR situation worked out.
For the Giants, I think it's a roster construction philosophy that heavy investment dollar-wise at the WR position isn't wise. For a team without a QB, sure. For a team with one, I don't think I agree. Not in today's NFL.
He's very credible, he knows everybody.
Futurevoid
Member
Most of which should be sorted out by next season as I doubt any of those 4 are on the roster for the money they are due. Rolle is likely the next cap casualty.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Thanks, that's interesting. I wonder why Philbin wouldn't like Jennings? Too injury prone?
Not sure they are looking for an FA upgrade for this position now. Really depends on their draft plans. Wouldn't mind stocking up on receivers a la Packers. Sign Jennings, draft a speedster in the 1st round, hope Tannehill doesn't get killed in the pocket chucking them deep balls out there.
Agreed, though it's disconcerting David Diehl is a thing that still exists on an NFL roster. Getting to 2014 offseason with neither Cruz or Nicks inked would undoubtedly mean one walks. We should aim to avoid that scenario.
If either Diehl or Webster go into the season with their current cap number I will be pissed off. But I am hoping something occurs after FA begins and they either accept paycuts or both are released. Sign a low vet FA corner to adjust into the starting role and compete with T2 and Hosley. We saw how easy it was to replace Diehl by signing a journeyman like Locklear, too bad he got injured, though.
Futurevoid
Member
Got some movie watching out of the way.
Argo was good to great. Best picture? Don't know but I enjoyed it quite a bit.
The Master had some amazing performances and was impeccably shot but oh boy did it bore me to tears. I usually love PTA's stuff, too.
Argo was good to great. Best picture? Don't know but I enjoyed it quite a bit.
The Master had some amazing performances and was impeccably shot but oh boy did it bore me to tears. I usually love PTA's stuff, too.
Bolt Vanderhuge
Member
Joe doesn't need sugar in his tea, he's sweet enough as it is already.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Wanna stack up on receivers? Draft them in the 2nd and 3rd round. There's a lot of value at that position in those rounds. Grab a pass rusher in the first round instead.
Futurevoid
Member
What's the word on SimCity? Worth getting?
It worked for your team. If you have the right talent evaluators, I couldn't agree more.
mastershake
Member
Just 10? What kind of grown ass man only needs 10 nuggets. Obviously not elite
BlackGhost
Banned
Anyone here have microsoft surface? Don't have a laptop and considering buying Somthing with my tax returns
First thing I honestly thought lol, not a 20 piece smh
Need to stay healthy, man.