Wow yea. Prices definitely cheaper on each. Guess that gives a easier path to quality parts
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I don't want weirdos in my kids bathrooms and I'll raise them as their natural gender until they're an adult also but apparently this makes me the weirdo :/
He's stuck behind Brady, other teams know this so his value is lessened. He might fetch what they put into him, but I doubt it. Hence the 4th rounder. If you want a comparable guy, you are looking at Mike Glennon. He's a 3rd round guy, maybe lower, but you get roughly the same thing as you would with Mallett. So much so that if Mallett is traded, some mocks have NE picking him up @ 91. He's raw, but greater upside, similar size, without issues in the past, and a couple of years younger as well. I don't see moving a 2nd when you can grab a similar cheaper guy with a lower pick. Even with improved mechanics and clipboard technique of Mallett, you are still paying for potential, not actual production so you are not gaining value.
Rodgers was a first rounder. He is/was the future, so it makes sense that they invested everything into him to get him to where they wanted him. Mallett's future is not that certain.
yankeehater
Member
I want good teachers I don't care what job they used to have.
I don't see why you'd consider Glennon to have higher upside than Mallett. Mallett had a far more productive college career, is only one year old (24 to Glennon's 23) and has studied under Brady for 2 years. Glennon is about the same height as Mallett but is nowhere near built enough to withstand NFL hits yet, while Mallett is built.
If Mallett was coming into this draft, he'd be the #1 quarterback and may have gone #1 overall to the Chiefs. That's obviously not the case with Glennon. I'm not saying Mallett is worth a 1st or even a 2nd pick, but I don't agree that his value has depreciated the past 2 years. Having said all that, the biggest knock on Mallett is the contract, since he can't renegotiate yet, and in 2 years a team would be giving him a big extension. That's the biggest detriment to a deal getting done, because if I'm a team like the Browns, I'd rather take Mallett's successor at Arkansas Tyler Wilson in the 3rd and have him under contract cheaply for 4 years than trade for Mallett and have to pay him in 2.
AngmarsKing701
Member
Yep he was one of the best of a great set of LBs the Steelers have had. The SB play was magical. The fact that he was undrafted was a great story.
Glad to see the Steelers decided to part ways though. Could have done it before last season. He just hasn't been the same with the injuries the last couple years.
If Troy misses games this coming season because of injury I expect the same to happen with him.
I'm assuming Worilds becomes the de facto starter unless this signals a 1st round rush LB who can step right in.
Boldin rejects Ravens offer and is preparing to go elsewhere. Gimme Boldin!!!
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Do you Steelers fans think they should have drafted Dont'a Hightower last year like most people predicted, or are you happy with DeCastro?
Seeing as how DeCastro blew out his knee and only played in 4 games, it's impossible to judge. However, at the time, I was happy about it. We'll see this year.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
lol I was gonna say that you were probably right....
Sometimes I don't agree with the general consensus on GAF but saying as such outside this thread is a banning.
I blame the Pats and their progressive views on QBs.
Edit: speaking of Harrison, Steelers fans have to love that they stole him from the Ravens.
Like Flacco, he was meh in the regular season. Both had great playoff runs, Joe got 60m, Anquan had to go.
yankeehater
Member
He was so beast in the playoffs if we were getting that guy I would be down.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Patriots futures
I'm starting to feel like I might forgive Flacco for winning that SB.
Trollmaster extraordinaire.
Edit: Dutch, you've gone too far this time.
No matter how amazing his magic is, I never want that guy in a Pats uniform.
As far as age it's slightly over a year and a half, hence the 2 years younger approximation. Glennon is slightly lighter 220-230 lbs to Mallet's 250, it would be easy for a team to stack him up 20/30 lbs. They are very similar QBs beyond height/weight. You can't really deny that. Read up on Mallett and Glennon and look at the comparisons. They are pretty much the same guy. Except a team will have to spend roughly the same pick to get him 3rd/4th, for a cheaper salary, with essentially the same potential. Without character concerns, if of course that bothers a team.
All the rest are hypotheticals. Just sitting behind Brady doesn't make him a better QB. By that measure Curtis Painter should be starting somewhere. We all know Peyton has a legendary work ethic like Brady, but why didn't it rub off on him? You can't really base a trade on, "This kid worked with Brady, he has to be great". It will end up biting a team in the ass, aka KC. Maybe someone will reach for Mallett, but I'd be surprised because you can get a similar raw unproven QB in the draft around the same position.
Patriots futures
Boldin looks like an NBA Jam Character with the giant heads turned on.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Patriots futures
damn these are incredible shop jobs
p.s.
niners apparently interested in multiple corners. i'm starting to wonder if we are letting goldson walk to move culliver to FS. culliver isn't the hitter than goldson is (not sure if any FS in the league is the hitter that goldson is) but goldson isn't very good in coverage and i think culliver is pretty good (just not in the superbowl!).
still that would kind of worry me since this isn't madden where you just plug a guy in. culliver did play safety in college but it would just make me nervous
It's a side effect of playing for that team.
Its all part of fighting the machine for them. Personally don't care how fake celebs are as long as they look good and give me wood who cares?
Porn stars are put on a pedestal in OT. To them nothing out of the norm when comparing say a girl going to med school to become a doctor and a girl who wants to blow dicks for a living. And watch when they discover one who comes across semi put together in real life and is not coked up. Then she is an intellectual as well!
You know who else would give me wood right now? Dashon Goldson. Dashon and Desean on the same team? Name lol.
Spectral Glider
Member
Are we really pretending that Harrison isn't going to the Browns (because of Horton) or Cards (well, duh.)
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Bjorn the Patriot.
Racist!
Any players you're interested in for the 9'ers this free agency? I can show you the future via photoshop.
It's the Haynesworth model.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Bjorn the Patriot.
Racist!
Any players you're interested in for the 9'ers this free agency? I can show you the future via photoshop.
wes welker
Always wanted him going far back as 2009. It should have been him and Desean. No need for Maclin and Desean on the same team.
Didn't he say he would retire if he was cut from the Ravens?
Good move for the Bills.
Bjorn the Patriot.
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A natural fit. Send that shit to Bill and Bob.
I don't think he fits on a team of tattooed thugs. Also, I don't like you anymore.
That would explain the unibrow. It's like an east German woman, makes sense.
Bill & George Clinton for life!
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I put him on the body of Jerry Rice, since Welker is on his level.
Sidenote :
cpriceNFL said:
Jesus Browns, you want all our guys ?
AngmarsKing701
Member
I'm liking the idea of a 3 on 3 NFL Jam with giant heads.
Goodell would ban it because he doesn't want fans to have fun
Yeah, but that was just bullshit posturing. He's not retiring.
If we swapped Cribbs and Edelman, I'd be okay with that. Edelman never had what it took to be the Welker clone BB wanted him to be.
How much racism can you fit into one post, German?
I put him on the body of Jerry Rice, since Welker is on his level.
Sidenote :
Jesus Browns, you want all our guys ?
Ninja Scooter
Member
I put him on the body of Jerry Rice, since Welker is on his level.
Sidenote :
Jesus Browns, you want all our guys ?
Lombardi is desperate for any Patriot leftovers. I bet as soon as Edelman gets to Cleveland he'll start sniffing him like a pair of old panties to see if he can smell Belichek.
AngmarsKing701
Member
He also didn't get cut, did he? He just didn't agree to the terms they offered him and now he's going to test the FA market.
Stay away from Lewis, dammit. If Taylor and Gay are our starting CBs... ffffffuuuuuuuuu
Dutch Gronk
Banned
They have the most cap room, so every agent will float to the media that CLE is interested in their guy
I'm giving the new regime a year before I assume they are as dumb as all the previous Cleveland front offices
AngmarsKing701
Member
Let's not forget that it's Cleveland.
However, given how fucked up Detroit is, Cleveland might be looking better to some guys than it has in the past.
GM: "Welcome to Cleveland!"
Player: "This place is a shithole."
GM: "Excuse me, but we've been elevated to a dump. Detroit is a shithole."
Can't they both be shitholes together?
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Leave our players alone Cleveland.Just give us your 1st for Mallet.
BlackGhost
Banned
I'm gonna have the biggest boner on Tuesday.
AngmarsKing701
Member
I believe there is a tiered system. Cleveland has been at the bottom of the heap for a while. I think Detroit is now considered worse.
It's interesting because location actually does have quite a bit to do with team success. Players don't want to go to a city that doesn't have a nightlife, that's dangerous to raise their children in, where their wives have no interest in living, etc.
Can you make a little more in Cleveland than you can in New York or somewhere else? Yes, because they have to pay a premium to get you to live and play there. And even then, players would rather take less money and play somewhere that has a nicer quality of life.
Philadelphia has some of the nicest suburbs around. Cherry Hill, Haddonfield, Moorestown, and Vorhees are some of the nicest suburban towns around.
AngmarsKing701
Member
But if you make a wrong turn and cross the bridge you're in Camden.
Finally we agree on something.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Would that make you more or less angry than if he signs with the Pats?
Lol