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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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DeaconKnowledge
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Steelers almost exclusively sign FA for depth. Building through a system is a proven tactic that perennially successful teams like the Steelers, Packers, Giants, Patriots, and Ratbirds use exclusively.
I know nothing about him except he is two consonants away from being a Die Hard villain.
Starting WLB for the Panthers. I assume Jon Beason will be taking over that role. Coincidentally, I think Pouha could be a decent cheap FA pickup at DT for the Panthers.
Dutch Gronk
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What happened to him? He used to be pretty good right? Could be a nice big backup for Vince.
Futurevoid
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Steelers update:
DUFFMCWALIN
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Ed Reed to the 49ers potentially? Should we put a suicide watch out on Blarry?
goldlion054
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Oh my gawd, let it be so! Please, Glover, come to Detroit. Instill me with all the false hope I can handle
Dutch Gronk
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The Bears are interested in the Vikings Phil Loadholt:
Looks like they'll spend their way to an offensive line considering they've also been linked to Giants guard Kevin Boothe as well.
I doubt Warmack makes to 19. Cooper is a possibility but we know what's going to happen. DE, CB or another WR.
Well let's be honest here, If I suggested Wilson last year you would have laughed it off (I think you did laugh it off as I preferred Wilson over Doug Martin, I think Reese/I caught the McCoy envy disease).
I have no clue in how they are going to draft this year.
And I think Warmack might drop with his issues, but its a pure preferential pick on my part. I think his weakness make him undraftable for the Giants (not that smart, and not versatile).
Futurevoid
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I laughed off a running back in general early on last year mainly because I didn't think they would bother in the early rounds. Not just Wilson. I warmed up to Doug Martin in the first because he was pro-ready and frankly if Martin was available, I still would have preferred him over Wilson. It doesn't mean I won't be cheering for David if he breaks out.
I posted up a list of first rounders in the past 6-7 years and there's definitely a pattern to what we do. DE, CB or a skill position (WR/RB). Those are the top three and I'm big into patterns/trends so I'm sticking with that.
DUFFMCWALIN
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hahahaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha. That is amazing. I would pay anything to see his reaction to that.
Futurevoid
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Wow, pranksters recorded two NFL GM's talking about FA and a few other things to boot. Bills GM Buddy Nix and Tampa Bay GM Mark Dominik specifically!
http://deadspin.com/pranksters-reco...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
They talk about the new FA rules, trade talks, Ryan Fitzpatrick etc. How does this happen? :jnc
http://deadspin.com/pranksters-reco...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
They talk about the new FA rules, trade talks, Ryan Fitzpatrick etc. How does this happen? :jnc
http://deadspin.com/pranksters-record-two-nfl-gms-discussing-free-agency-ov-452366184
LO-FUCKING-L
edit: DAMNIT FUTURE
LO-FUCKING-L
edit: DAMNIT FUTURE
Futurevoid
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Add another TE to the market:
Dutch Gronk
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Bill is ready!
This is so amazing. I hadn't heard of the Dominos thing before but it's genius.
If LJ11 were here he'd be even less bullish on Fitzmagic!
Him picking Wilson was so against the trends last year, that you would have been justified in laughing it off based on trends, and he fully admitted in the press conference afterwards saying the trends aren't what you think they are always.
I think he will be drafting on an evaluation of need + best player available, but I just see so many positions as needs right now, and the one cb that can be slotted to us it just not an ideal fit for Fewell's system (Rhodes). And the metrics they use to judge players is not well known to the public... so I'll be honest in that I have no clue in who they are going to draft. If they aren't able to resign Boothe, I think it does increase the chance of drafting a guard on that basis, but like I said this is all idealistic conjecture on my part.
Goro Majima
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Pretzels.
Only thing I'm looking for Green Bay to do at this point is to get some depth on that defensive line. Makes me think that we'll try to get Richard Seymour for one season or something like Benson.
yankeehater
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Short passes to Boldin, deep passes to everyone else. Those percentages dont seem that surprising to me at all.
Is Torrey Smith going to be the guy he goes to on short yardage passes now? Won't they have to spend at least $6m to get a guy who is going to be solid and capable enough to replicate Boldin's production?
Dutch Gronk
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yankeehater
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I have no idea how they will replace Boldin, he seems like a very difficult guy to replace. I am sure they think they can get someone cheaper in there or they would have kept him.
Futurevoid
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I heard the Titans offered him a contract but he seems content to shop around.
BaltimoreLarry
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Dennis Pitta will be that guy now.
Goro Majima
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Well you can scratch him off Green Bay's list. We're not outbidding the Titans.
Loved Tucker and Florio's analysis of the Boldin deal, and frankly, and this is damn rare, but I think I agree with Florio's theory of how it went down.
Boldin claimed loyalty to the Ravens (play for them or retire rhetoric), Baltimore tried to use that as leverage, Boldin got pissed and said no way, and Ozzie was stuck in a jam where he couldn't back off in order to save face with the rest of his negotiations, so they had to cut him. Getting the pick was simply the tiny consolation prize in what was an idiot, messed up negotiation tactic.
How do you not value Boldin at 6m per? Yes, he's 32, and yes, it's debatable as to whether he is a true #1 WR still, but he has great hands and NEVER gets injured. Easily one of the toughest WR in the game right now. To value a 2m pay cut over this is asinine IMO, and they will have a VERY hard time replacing his worth and experience at 4m per.
In a league that is seeing Mike Wallace's and Percy Harvin's and Dwayne Bowe's getting 11m+ a season, with their various issues, almost half that for a proven talent that's still damn solid is a bargain.
What's so glorious and enjoyable about this is how much this is going to expose Flacco's weaknesses right after signing that contract. I love when horrible franchises act horribly.
Boldin claimed loyalty to the Ravens (play for them or retire rhetoric), Baltimore tried to use that as leverage, Boldin got pissed and said no way, and Ozzie was stuck in a jam where he couldn't back off in order to save face with the rest of his negotiations, so they had to cut him. Getting the pick was simply the tiny consolation prize in what was an idiot, messed up negotiation tactic.
How do you not value Boldin at 6m per? Yes, he's 32, and yes, it's debatable as to whether he is a true #1 WR still, but he has great hands and NEVER gets injured. Easily one of the toughest WR in the game right now. To value a 2m pay cut over this is asinine IMO, and they will have a VERY hard time replacing his worth and experience at 4m per.
In a league that is seeing Mike Wallace's and Percy Harvin's and Dwayne Bowe's getting 11m+ a season, with their various issues, almost half that for a proven talent that's still damn solid is a bargain.
What's so glorious and enjoyable about this is how much this is going to expose Flacco's weaknesses right after signing that contract. I love when horrible franchises act horribly.
They can always draft someone with size and speed. I love Boldin but he isn't a top 5 or at a point in his career where he isn't replaceable.
His play dropped off and he's been injured these last two seasons.
Futurevoid
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Goro Majima
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Speaking of which, I really wish Green Bay would move on from Mason Crosby.
Maybe Harbs shook Goldson's hand too roughly and he won't return? Thus opening up Detroit's interest. Schwartz has many problems, but an overenthusiastic hand shake is not among them.
Which teams here are horrible?
He still has good hands and he's a useful player for a lot of teams.
Totally useful. Comparing him to 24 year old Harvin and 26 year old Wallace is hilarious.
He's not, but can you deny his impact last year and in the playoffs? I'll grant you he's no longer a #1 (if he ever truly was), but for what he can specifically bring possession-wise (strong hands, hard off the line), would you not classify him, at the very least, Top 15 in the league right now?
Every team but the Niners.squicken said:
FrenchMovieTheme
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No one is pretending that. But he was pretty easily one of the best 3 receivers in the playoffs last year. Crabcakes being #1!
Reed is the backup plan if Goldson is gone (which I think he is).
Edit: apparently the Pats have not made Welker an offer yet.