HowardRoark
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I know you are trying to be offensive, but that's absolutely 100% true. I'll do anything to avoid Arrington as being an outside (#1/#2) CB.
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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I know you are trying to be offensive, but that's absolutely 100% true. I'll do anything to avoid Arrington as being an outside (#1/#2) CB.
No I mean I think Pats fans over-inflate him as a CB b/c they've had it so bad. He's not a top level performer, but he's not a liability
What I don't get is the idea of a prove it one year deal? Lots of players are and will be on the same type of deal. Just the same thing again next year
Futurevoid
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Maybe Bill is a calming influence and Talib knows he's in a good position there.
It won't be the same next year. Talib and DRC are on one year deals now, but the free agent CB market next year has just Charles Tillman, Tim Jennings, and Corey Graham. Shouldn't be nearly as flooded.
He's high risk for getting suspended and wasn't all that durable last year.
HowardRoark
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Do we know what deals if any, have been fielded to Asomugha? Would be awesome if Pats could sign him too.
I'm referring to the trend of the offseason, not just at CB. Bennett, DRC, Talib. Lots of guys thinking they will show their stuff and make a lot more money next offseason. I think they will just be a year older with possible injury histories. If I were an agent, I'd tell my guys to get as much guaranteed as they can, even if it means an additional year for a modest increase
Greg Cosell on the latest Shutdown Corner Podcast said he's been done for 3 years. Just physically can't do the job anymore
Players betting on themselves. He only took 5 mil to stay so Belichick probably gave him a case of Adderall
Jak speaks the truth.
It would be great if the Browns were able to draft Milliner but seems he'll be off the board by the time it's our pick.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
and maybe nnamdi will finally agree to our low contract offer!
Pats talking to him right now. Supposedly Talib turned down a multi year deal with the Pats too.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
nnamdi is sick of the east coast. he wants to come home!
Arrington in the slot is awesome. I just know he has major weaknesses as a 1 or 2.
Wilson might be valuable as a small linebacker hybrid in certain sets since the Pats linebackers are ass slow. I was reading about that on espnboston
Wilson might be valuable as a small linebacker hybrid in certain sets since the Pats linebackers are ass slow. I was reading about that on espnboston
He was worthless on the outside. 120+ QB rating against. Flat out terrible.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
throw in charles woodson for good measure!
Dont' worry. Ras-I Dowling will be a pro bowler this year. John Abraham and Lloyd restructure / Sanders up next.
i'm too old to binge drink on st patrick's day, so no whiskey dick for me!
bad secondaries look much better when there's a competent pass rush, let's see what abraham and jones can do.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i'd like him on the niners because i think he will be productive with us. carlos rogers was a bum when he left washington and magically under harbaugh and co's tutelage he became a pro bowler.
nnamdi has the physical talent and the niners coaching staff is one of the best in the league. i think a short small contract is low risk, high reward for us.
he's a great man to man cover corner, and they played him mostly in zone iirc. not hard to see why it didn't work out there.
Wasnt part of his problem was he couldnt see shit then got contacts and bam suddenly not a int dropping bum?
I think mostly the latter, but didn't he also have to play more zone which wasn't his strong suit at all?
FrenchMovieTheme
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that was the rumor from lavar arrington. he played with rogers in washington and on his radio show he said that rogers had horrible vision and the coaching staff never had him get his eyes tested or made him get contacts. then when he came to san fran harbaugh made him get them.
i usually don't believe a lot of these stories because they are exaggerated and changed over the years. he dropped quite a few picks last year
I like this move. Rumor is that the Pats might also want Freeney but he wants to be a starter.
Not happening. If anything they would rotate Abraham and Freeney on 3rd downs to keep them fresh.
Source?
He might not return to form but he can definitely be better than what he was in Philly. He sucked for us but so did everyone else on that defense. He can't be that bad. Some of it has to be the coaching or lack of it and the guys he was playing with.
SF is probably his best fit on a low ball 1 year deal.
Freeney would be too expensive to be a 3rd down rotational player.
Abraham would play about every other snap with us, staying on the field longer on certain drives. He'd basically come off field on short yardage situations unless it was on 3rd down because he (magically) became a much better run defender with us. He used to have a reputation for running past the play (a la Freeney), but Abe couldn't really be accused of that now.
And this is when Abe was getting about $7-8 million/year. The snap count didn't matter, his production warranted it.
Now, Freeney's even more one dimensional, but I have to imagine Belichick was choosing one or the other.
ConradCervantes
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Jennings posted a thank you message on Facebook a couple of hours ago. Most of the posts on that message...ugh.
I share a fandom with complete retards. How do these people function in their little bubble of righteousness?
I share a fandom with complete retards. How do these people function in their little bubble of righteousness?
I think he'll still be there. There's enough needs and talent on the board for the teams above us not to take the CB, a position that is typically not picked in the top 5.
If he's not there we could grab one of the top pass rushers instead or even trade back, pick up Warmack, Eifert or Rhodes and another pick or two!
Our FA spell has put us in a strong position come the draft. Could've been stronger but we can do multiple things come draft day which is always a good thing - you don't want your hand to be forced.
BannedEpisode
Member
You should have seen some of the shit people posted on my facebook.
The funnier thing is that...people post the most inane, ignorant vitriol with their real names.
So much for anonymity being a requirement to be an asshole.
It's ridiculous how people treat players at times.
Only issue with Jennings is his constant message if faith and wanting to follow parents in becoming a preacher after NFL..... Then doing the money grab. I see that as conflicting ideals, but whatever.
Most players I have no qualm with that since they have short careers and need as much as possible for the later life (most guys are out of league by 32 if not before). It makes much more sense for a guy that only sees his low rookie contract and is likely to only get one contract after it.
Just not the case for Jennings. He's made a few handfuls of money along the way. But again, whatever. It's a small beef on his presentation and what actually seems about.
Duxxy3
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top 5
ConradCervantes
Banned
The thing is, people are griping about his lack of loyalty. Was Greg gonna take a paycut and be pushed down the depth chart to ease our troubled minds about him being a traitor? Good God.
Jennings wants to be the man again. Sucks to see him go, but I like competition, and the Vikings acquiring him will make our division much more interesting.
Jennings wants to be the man again. Sucks to see him go, but I like competition, and the Vikings acquiring him will make our division much more interesting.
I'll be conservative and say top 10.