Dutch Gronk
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
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Dutch Gronk
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I also understand you! I witnessed 2 Super Bowl losses to Eli Manning, that's about as bad as what you've been through.
And think about the good times in the IRC!
The_Darkest_Red
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This is a really unexpected response, especially from a Patriots fan.
I'd say he was but obviously I'm a little biased. The thing is, I don't think a SB win has to be a requirement for someone to be in the discussion because at the end of the day it's a team sport and one guy is never going to get it done by himself.
In Marino's lone SB appearance he was 29/50 for 318 with a TD and 2 picks. Not a beautiful stat-line by any means, but if your QB is throwing 50 times in a game that tells me that your running game is basically nonexistent. The leading rusher for the Dolphins in that game had 5 carries for 18 yards, and 16 of those came on 1 run! The Dolphins had 25 yards rushing total to SF's 211 (although, to be fair, 59 of those were Montana himself).
One game doesn't tell the whole story obviously but the point is Marino never really had a whole lot to work with in terms of WR's and he never had much help in the backfield either. At the end of the day I guess the only thing that matters to most people is he didn't win a SB, though.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
And that's why you're my favorite German.
Dutch Gronk
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Yes! Wait...
This is a really unexpected response, especially from a Patriots fan.
I was channeling my inner-Yankeehater
I'm with you.
Marino ain't Elite. Fuck the fake knee.
Who keeps a fan on hand during the winter?Marino being elite is a hard question?
Alligatorjandro
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Brady not elite?What fuckery is this?
Dutch Gronk
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Settle down, it's just Yankeehater.
Alligatorjandro
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Oh,ok.
J-GAR and J-FAT. No wonder FMT dreams of Rors
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Sanchez is on the path, Jets just need to do the smart thing and give him whatever contract he wants.
He needs a pantyhose sponsor first
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Would it be weird for them to sign him 'till he dies? 1 billion/lifetime deal seems about right.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Typically I'd advise against something that extreme but when you're dealing with this kind of greatness it's probably safest not to take any unnecessary risks. I mean, obviously the Jets are a circus right now and they love trying to throw anything they can at Sanchez to bring him down but any smart owner should be able to see where the real problems are. I think Joe Namath (the only elite QB in the history of the NFL, remember) said it best:
"I know he's gotten a bad shake. I don't think he's had the right kind of coaching," the Hall of Famer told ESPN's Mike & Mike in the Morning Wednesday. "I don't think he's had the right kind of help offensively. It's a team game."
Or, if I may paraphrase, "Mark Sanchez is the only QB besides me who has a chance of being called elite, so worry about everything besides him." Now I don't know about you but I'm not one to challenge the wisdom of the NFL's greatest QB of all time.
yankeehater
Member
I thought that Marino had great WRs throughout his career. I remember Duper and Clayton both being really good. I guess it is hard to judge how much of that is the QB and how much the WR. I totally agree about the Fins never having a great running game while he was there though. Marion is one of the greatest QBs of all time, it is just when I think of elite QBs I think of guys like Montana and Eli that play even better in big games.
So in this case. Where are we gonna rank Hostetler and Dilfer?
yankeehater
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Hey does anyone in this thread have FIOS? I just got a note on my door saying that Fios is now available in my area and I am thinking of switch up from comcast. I currently have phone, internet, and TV with Comcast. I am just worried that with Verizon being new to the area there might be outages and such while they get everything sorted out.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Elite, but not elite. Elite elite elite elite elite
Do it now, Sandy knocked out all the power in North Jersey, but for some reason Fios was running (people were using generators).
Alligatorjandro
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Instead of putting money in the team,you'll waste it on some gimmick.
You'd make a great owner.
When the dolphins come into town I would hand non-dolphin safe tuna cans to everyone.
When the Bills come into town I would hand Scott Norwood foam hats out.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
If I was an owner, I hand out Jet toe socks when they came to New York.
Spectral Glider
Member
I'd hand out giant foam asses with the phrase Butt Fumble on them.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
The Jets are the black sheep of the NFL.Always trying to do something good but messes it up in hilarious ways.
Dutch Gronk
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If I was an owner, I would take Tom out for dinner every night and hug him all day.
Makes sense. Because of the fact that he is penis-challenged cuddling is all you can hope for from your system qb.
My question though is who leads when you guys dance?
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Well, he's a born leader on and off the field and he's a natural in dancing. Problem is I can't dance, but maybe his presence alone will help me become great at it. Like when he turns average WRs into superstars.
This seems more like "hey the Browns have a lot of money to spend, let's link them to every free agent there is."
Grover Cleveland
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Thanks Hurney! (Although in Marty's defense, the Johnson and Williams deals came immediately after the lockout ended in that brief period where Richardson lost his everlasting damn mind)
Would Wallace really go to Cleveland for 5 more million to play without a real qb? That didn't work out well for Fitz...
Even if it happens I won't be too butthurt about it. We will have to replace him but he will be easier to replace than Brown. Though if we draft someone it takes at least until year 2 until they are worth a damn.
We can pretty much draft a Al Davis type player and have him do the same thing, no?
Spectral Glider
Member
Yeah, supposedly after he said no thanks, they turned around and made the deal with Brown. So the story goes anyway.
I won't lose sleep over it if he goes. They let Thigpen walk, Plax walk, shipped Holmes out on the fast boat, it's not new ground to them.
It is not always that easy to find someone that can actually run a route and catch a ball. Fast players are easy to find though.
And it usually takes qb's and receivers until their 2nd year to really get to a level where they are dependable on every down. Pretty rare that a guy figures it all out in his first year. If we are going to draft a replacement then we need to get a guy in FA to replace him. I like Cotchery but I wonder if he can really stretch a defense. And the other young guy can stretch a defense but he always fumbles the fucking football.
BannedEpisode
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Moves pretty well for big man in HS
Dutch Gronk
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Don't do this man! You're the good Eagles fan!
You'd support Bin Laden if he rooted for the Flyers. Your vote doesn't count!!!
Goro Majima
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Surprised the Niners aren't going after Harvin for a trade deal since they have 14 picks this year?
Alligatorjandro
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lol good Eagle fans dont exist.They are all evil.
Part of our radio's reasoning for getting Harvin is to keep him out of SF.
Thanks Dutch. I do admit that I believe Tom Brady is elite, but I have to support YH and the spirit behind his claims.
You don't believe in America! My vote counts. We believe in freedom in this country! This isn't some hippy dippy commune like you have up there in Bristol (New York).
Raiders are probably going to cut DHB. Could step right in for Wallace. At least 2012 Wallace
Grover Cleveland
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I used to hate Tom Brady, but I've come to appreciate her. Even now, when's she's off her testosterone cycle and can't throw a ball further than ten yards, she's still been able to put up pretty good numbers.
I salute you, Tom Brady. The Best Quarterback* Ever.
*Female
I salute you, Tom Brady. The Best Quarterback* Ever.
*Female