Dutch Gronk
Banned
They are not born evil
I thought you were the Neo of Eagles fans, but you are beyond saving
I always knew you were a smart kid!
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NFL Offseason Thread 2013 - Here comes the wait
- Thread starter DeaconKnowledge
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They are not born evil
I thought you were the Neo of Eagles fans, but you are beyond saving
I always knew you were a smart kid!
Only logical move the Eagles could make. Foles isn't the answer. Vick isn't the long term answer. And there is no top QB they have to get in this draft, certainly not with the #4 pick. Maybe they still take a QB in the later rounds (3rd?). Who knows but there is no clear answer at QB from the draft or FA. Use Vick this season and if it all fails then pick a QB in 2014.
This deal doesn't hurt their cap (actually in great shape) and brings back two starters for competition. Add in another QB or two and let the best player start week 1.
Eagles have pieces on offense. Vick had his turnover problems but the biggest thing holding the offense back was the complete decimation of the OLINE due to injuries. With Peters coming back, guys getting healthy, and hopefully good drafting the OLINE can resemble an actual NFL level line once again. And if Peters comes back 100% and Joeckel falls to them at #4 it could overnight turn back to a strength for the team.
We have the WRs and RBs to be a dynamic on offense. Just need Vick to limit turnovers and the OLINE to actually protect. A lot of that should be helped by Kelly's desire to run the ball. I can see why Vick wants to come back to this offense. Instead of everything falling on him under Reid, Kelly will actually use all the RBs to run the ball 30+ times a game. Excited to see how this looks after 14 seasons of just passing.
Their biggest weakness was and is the defense. Safeties, CBs, LBs, and DLINE. Pretty much all over the D with the exception of 2-3 players. Far better for them to focus on re building this side of the ball then wasting a high pick on a QB from a weak draft class.
This deal doesn't hurt their cap (actually in great shape) and brings back two starters for competition. Add in another QB or two and let the best player start week 1.
Eagles have pieces on offense. Vick had his turnover problems but the biggest thing holding the offense back was the complete decimation of the OLINE due to injuries. With Peters coming back, guys getting healthy, and hopefully good drafting the OLINE can resemble an actual NFL level line once again. And if Peters comes back 100% and Joeckel falls to them at #4 it could overnight turn back to a strength for the team.
We have the WRs and RBs to be a dynamic on offense. Just need Vick to limit turnovers and the OLINE to actually protect. A lot of that should be helped by Kelly's desire to run the ball. I can see why Vick wants to come back to this offense. Instead of everything falling on him under Reid, Kelly will actually use all the RBs to run the ball 30+ times a game. Excited to see how this looks after 14 seasons of just passing.
Their biggest weakness was and is the defense. Safeties, CBs, LBs, and DLINE. Pretty much all over the D with the exception of 2-3 players. Far better for them to focus on re building this side of the ball then wasting a high pick on a QB from a weak draft class.
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
DHB on any other team is going to beast it up
You just described Bionic's fantasy
Futurevoid
Member
They want him back as a corner, apparently.
I don't want to get my hopes up considering the luck the guy has had but if he can come back as a corner and play at a decent level - yeah that would be fantastic.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
yankeehater
Member
Thanks buddy. You are good people.
Its not guaranteed 10 million. With incentives (if he starts and performs well) then its 10 million otherwise I believe his base is low tier for starting QBs.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
We welcome Dutch Seahawk with open armsThat's not how this works buddy
With latte in hand.
I don't talk about my sexual fantasies on messageboards. Gotta keep it classy.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I would need you to get the legal papers (Bionic can probably hook you up) for me to be able to cut all ties with my family, then adopt me, raise me as your son, raise me as a Seattle sports fan, and convince me that all that would be a good idea.
Personally I kinda like my current situation.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I ain't raising no filthy Pats fan!
Dutch Gronk
Banned
But...but...Daaaaaaaaaad!
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I am going to get a pack of smokes, be back when you become rich.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Leave Dutch alone.He's ours.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Don't be so insular. Dutch Patriot is the German we can all enjoy.
Also, nobody cares about the Seahawks.
Also, nobody cares about the Seahawks.
So at what point do they convert him to another position?
AngmarsKing701
Member
No hablo ingles.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Surprised the Eagles kept Vick. For sure they were gonna let him go. Maybe he thought no one else would pay him any more.
Jake Freeman?
AngmarsKing701
Member
Darth Vader proved that you CAN turn from the dark side.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Don't know why everybody was burying Vick on the Eagles. He had a bad year. Why would they ditch him after one bad season?
Foles is not the answer, and everyone knows it. There are no worthwhile free agents out there better than Vick, and no one worth gambling on in the draft.
Good 'ol Battleship Lorenzen. I saw him a couple times in person when I was in college.
AngmarsKing701
Member
Where is Tiny Hands gonna land?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
This is not a thing. You dreamt it. You're still dreaming. WAKE UP.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Buffalo.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Shut your face, old man
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Smith isn't going to AZ. Arians is there.
Lee Chaolan
Member
I totally agree there, definitely in Chip's system. We'll see how Vick does.
I think even Arians knows he has to fix the OL first. Wherever Alex goes he is a stopgap guy, and he can do that in AZ. There aren't a lot of teams in the market for a $8m middle of the road QB. Both SF and Alex will have a limited number of choices
Spectral Glider
Member
Well, I still say his days are numbered. He's still not all that accurate, he's slower than he ever was and he misses games to injury every year. And now he seems to be turnover prone. I don't see how Kelly's offense changes most of that.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
This is probably Vick's last season as an Eagle regardless. I just don't get why people were pushing him out the door for Nick Foles, in a weak year for QBs.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Alex Smith should go to Cleveland.
With Foles there is the potential for an upside. Vick has been one of the worst quarterbacks for years.
yankeehater
Member
2nd in MVP voting 2 years ago.
Alex Smith should go to Baltimore. The moment Flacco asks for something absurd, Smith should just willingly accept whatever Baltimore would throw at him.
That doesn't mean he is good.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Alex should just stay in SF. When Colin Thugernick has his unsurprising regression next season Jim will come crawling back.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Wilson has saved football.
Can he hit cleanup as well?