yes so this means they would have cut brady to go with matt cassel
give me a break dude
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NFL Offseason Thread 2015 |OT| All of our teams suck!
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give me a break dude
BlackGhost
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You're putting a lot of stuck in Mallet.
Kinda reminds me of when Hoyer got hurt and some people wanted to go all In on him based off two games.
They could have drafted someone too. No one said they would have to go with Cassel.
Shouldn't you say he will be shit, then?
Dont be a grammar police, you know its saturday so I started drinking the day away at noon
His receivers pre-Moss and Welker were Jags-tier, do you not understand this? Of course his stats are better when he has better receivers.
I'm aware. I'm just saying let's not pretend that Brady's supporting cast for the prime of his career was somehow worse than Peyton's, because it's just false.
He had a top 2 receiver ever.
I don't need any pity from you.
We've gone over and through this time and time again.
I stand by my assertion that Manning is a better QB, while Brady is more winning.
I've made my case both statistically and in terms of who they've played for and with.
That's all I can do. But please continue to move the target around and continue on your head patting crusade.
Do it.
He had Moss for 2 seasons towards the end of his prime...
Peyton had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne the entire time he played in Indy, and then a ridiculous supporting cast in Denver.
Alligatorjandro
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Guys please, we need to have something to talk about in June. Let's save these conversations until then.
It kinda evens out. Peyton had better for longer but nothing matches Prime Welker and the greatest receiver who ever played final years as a productive player. Manning then again caught fire when he inherited the Tim Tebow Broncos.
You realize that Moss' best season was in NE? The other two were in line with the rest of his career.
I'd say you got a prime Moss, whether or not you want to accept it.
Himynameischris
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You and I should be friends
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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The only other thing we do here is trash the browns, post Milana pics, post random anime gifs and trying to get JNA banned.
He had more than Moss. Corey Dillon? Welker? Maroney/Law Firm/Faulk? Hernandez/Gronk? Woodhead? Edelman?
Brady and Manning both had equally stacked teams around them.
I never said we didn't? Towards the end of his prime =/= towards the end of his career
Plus, Moss never had anyone throwing to him like Brady so clearly he would have his best season there.
Coldnoodle
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it is absolutely hilarious seeing this argument being thrown back against Brady after years of agreement that Peyton had more weapons his entire career.
cdy you're something else
like, you just listed lawrence maroney as a weapon bro
BlackGhost
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You're hurting my feelings jerk.
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Yeah, because Peyton has had absolute stud, workhorse backs outside of Edgerrin James, guys like Joe Addai and Donald Brown. Come on, man.
Years of agreement? From who? That argument went out the window as soon as Brady got Moss.
Towards the end of his prime alludes to a reduction in production.
His best year in Minneapolis with Culpepper resulted in more yards but 6 less TDs than the best year with Brady. To say that stat level is attributed all to Brady is naive at best.
Additionally if you want to see the difference a QB really makes look at Harrison before and after Manning.
800-900 yd guy, transformed into ~1400 yd guy double digit TDs.
Just keep ignoring the fact that you just put Lawrence Maroney in a list of offensive weapons.
You don't know shit, stop arguing for the sake of arguing.
It alludes to a reduction in athleticism, actually. He was absolutely prime Moss in 07, but he was clearly not the same guy in 09. Plus he was mentally checked out within the year.
And you'd put Addai and Brown in a list of weapons? I assume not, but that's exactly what I'm saying. Both Brady and Peyton have had middling running backs and great receiver corps in their primes.
You need to chill out with all the personal attacks. Sorry for discussing football in a football thread.
Banned.
It's better this way. I told you it was all over after the Cincy game. Hopefully Kubes will be the piece we need.
Like I said before his stats are inline with the rest of his career even in the last year. After NE, he stopped caring no doubt.
Frozenprince
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Well now EJ Manuel might...
I'm sorry I can't say anything positive about him seriously.
I'm sorry I can't say anything positive about him seriously.
Alligatorjandro
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So, who has had better receivers?
Frozenprince
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Just once I want to talk about football somewhere that doesn't devolve into a Manning/Brady argument and eventually segues into a Luck/Wilson argument.
Everywhere this crap is happening and it's just annoying as hell.
Everywhere this crap is happening and it's just annoying as hell.
Ninja Scooter
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Cam vs Kaep. Who you got?
I've been waiting for Kas to jump in and preach about Stafford, and his merry band of recievers.
Did you know that Stafford had a better statistical year than Brady? It's true.
Who's your team?
Let's discuss Trent Truck versus Jamarcus.
Frozenprince
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Depends on what I got for RB's and WR's mang.
Alligatorjandro
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Who is the most okayest QB?
There isn't really any Luck/Wilson argument if you actually watch football.
rokkerkory
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Cam any day
Frozenprince
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This when you pull the jakncoke special
HEY GUYS YOU KNOW ERIK KRAMER THROUGH 29 TDS IN 1995
It distracts the inbreds from what they were fighting for with their sisters