His legacy is being one of the better qb's of all time.
The fact that he is old and broken now doesn't change that.
Neither will winning a SB next season make up for many, many choke jobs.
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NFL Offseason Thread 2015 |OT| All of our teams suck!
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The fact that he is old and broken now doesn't change that.
Neither will winning a SB next season make up for many, many choke jobs.
Mackenzie 92
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Everytime he forced it, he came up with a turnover. That wouldn't have been a better result. He protected the ball very well and limited negative plays. Sacked very rarely and threw only 13 ints on nearly 600 attempts. His rookie numbers are very close to Lucks, just less ints and sacks. It's true once or twice a game he missed or didn't see an open guy downfield or made a bad decision, but overall he played very well for a rookie on a shit team in a bad situation.
If we can get him a no.1 receiver and a running game, I think we'll see him take the next step next year.
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So can the Falcons hurry up and hire a coach already?
I need to fucking know damn it!
I need to fucking know damn it!
Grover Cleveland
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After some consideration, I'm going to stand with my original decision.
Kave is the King of Sport Sadness
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/fantasy-free-agents/
Man look at this list of top free agents at offensive skill positions.
Fucking McDaniels will get a HC job and drive the price up on Mallett
Man look at this list of top free agents at offensive skill positions.
Fucking McDaniels will get a HC job and drive the price up on Mallett
abolisher6812
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Jack Del Rio is a good HC. His Jaguars' team always played hard despite an awful front office. These are the 1st round picks while in Jacksonville
2003 - Byron Leftwich - He wasn't horrible
2004 - Reggie Williams - celebrated 1 yard receptions
2005 - Matt Jones - crack
2006 - Marcedes Lewis - better blocker than receiver, now can't stay healthy
2007 - Reggie Nelson
2008 - Derrick Harvey - the team traded their 1st, 2 3rds and 4th round picks to draft this guy
2009 - Eugene Monroe
2010 - Tyson Alualu - serviceable backup
2011 - Blaine Gabbert - Jaguars traded up for Gabbert, while JJ Watt went right after this pick
2012 - Justin Blackmon - The best player on this list can't stay on the field due to pot
He did check out that last year, but that was because everyone knew the team was going to be sold and he was on his way out and he also had Gabbert as his QB.
2003 - Byron Leftwich - He wasn't horrible
2004 - Reggie Williams - celebrated 1 yard receptions
2005 - Matt Jones - crack
2006 - Marcedes Lewis - better blocker than receiver, now can't stay healthy
2007 - Reggie Nelson
2008 - Derrick Harvey - the team traded their 1st, 2 3rds and 4th round picks to draft this guy
2009 - Eugene Monroe
2010 - Tyson Alualu - serviceable backup
2011 - Blaine Gabbert - Jaguars traded up for Gabbert, while JJ Watt went right after this pick
2012 - Justin Blackmon - The best player on this list can't stay on the field due to pot
He did check out that last year, but that was because everyone knew the team was going to be sold and he was on his way out and he also had Gabbert as his QB.
Exactly.
They could have won some games with Brock at the helm and had him rest his injuries. They were already in the playoffs at that point and if they have to win one extra game to get to the AFCC, then so be it.
greatestjediever
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I'm not giving Peyton a pass with a quad injury. He said his quad felt better and his first long bomb to Julius went just fine. He just got beat.
That said, I don't think the Broncos had much of an alternative. Osweiler had a short chance against the Chargers to show that he was at least competent, and he blew it.
That said, I don't think the Broncos had much of an alternative. Osweiler had a short chance against the Chargers to show that he was at least competent, and he blew it.
Purple Cheeto
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Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick were both more of one read system QBs than Mariota and they've got multiple playoff appearances.
Don't forget drafting a punter over Russel Wilson
HarryDemeanor
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Peyton did not want the Brock Cannon to take his spot.
tiggerkiddo
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Should've let Brock get some games in then.
HarryDemeanor
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I mean just look at this.
Peyton is scared of this kid.
Peyton is scared of this kid.
Futurevoid
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Soon to be official for the Bills.
they drafted Gabutt a year earlier, they werent gonna draft another QB. And any team dumb enough to draft Gabbert wasn't gonna have the smarts to take a chance on Wilson.
I mean just look at this.
Peyton is scared of this kid.
He should be starting next year.
True story: Texans contacted the Broncos about Osweilers availability in a trade during the off season. Broncos declined
BOB likes his QBs tall.
most gms do. Thats all they care about is the body.
Its why a pro bowl TE like Cam Newton gets a job as qb.
Really hope JB can get back on the field and realize his potential. He's a fucking beast.
Mackenzie 92
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It's happening.
Wonder if Denver will hire Dennis Allen as DC now. Would be kind of funny.
He actually was pretty good when he was playing. I think he's eligible this year to come back, so hopefully he can and contribute.
Welp, time to call up that cybernetics clinic that fused his neck back together.
lol, official signing on Tuesday, when the temp dips back down to 13.
he's going to second guess that one.
Yeah but he'll be our falling apart QB.
You are so QB hungry
I'll take anyone ; ;
I just vomited looking at the Browns first round picks since I became a fan.
8 draft picks:
2 studs (Haden, Mack)
2 solid/okay guys (Phil Taylor, Barkevious Mingo)
2 flat out busts! (Trent Truck, Weeden)
2 too early to say but we know where it's trending (Gilbert, Manziel)
Needless to say this is a very crucial draft once again for the Brownies and really I don't feel positive about it.
8 draft picks:
2 studs (Haden, Mack)
2 solid/okay guys (Phil Taylor, Barkevious Mingo)
2 flat out busts! (Trent Truck, Weeden)
2 too early to say but we know where it's trending (Gilbert, Manziel)
Needless to say this is a very crucial draft once again for the Brownies and really I don't feel positive about it.
Just avoid Gondo like the plague and you should be good.
greatestjediever
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Nah, that report was bogus. Peyton even addressed it in the postgame, saying he had heard about it but that it wasn't true, it was just the one leg injury.
If I were a browns fan I would be in futility mode:
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/12/nfl-p...ant-replay-catch-peyton-manning-retirement/3/
abolisher6812
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Robinson, Lee, Hurns, and Blackmon could be scary good. I would bring back the Run N Shoot offense for that.
Say goodbye to RB screens and a successful redzone offense Bills!
Actually I think the Bills never had the latter anyways, so it should be probably be say hello to an even worse red zone offense!
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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It's the same deal for most teams.
And your defense would wilt on the field. Good 'ol Chuck 'n Duck was fun to watch, but brutal for trying to win football games.
It's being talked about on Atlanta radio that Ryan wanted more control over draft and personnel and that's what lead to the hesitation from the Falcons. Fucking Dimitroff. I still don't understand why Blank felt the need to keep him around.
I hope we go ahead and offer Bowles the job he's supposedly scheduled to come in for a second interview.
I hope we go ahead and offer Bowles the job he's supposedly scheduled to come in for a second interview.
yeah even the good teams miss on a fair share of 1st round picks.
My Bucs look real smart over the last 10 years
04 - Michael Clayton
05- Cadillac Williams
06- Davin Joseph
07- Gaines Adams
08- Aqib Talib
09- Josh Freeman
10- Gerald McCoy
11- Adrian Clayborn
12- Mark Barron, Doug Martin
13- Traded for Revis
14- Mike Evans.
Bunch of awful picks, and then the ones one who turned out decent weren't retained for very long. McCoy will probably be a franchise guy at least.
Saw an interesting site, www.statista.com. They had average NFL careers in a graph.
Players with at least one Pro Bowl appearance/selection- 11.7 years
First round draft picks- 9.3 years.
Player with at least three pension-credited seasons- 7.1 years.
Player who makes a club's opening day roster in their rookie year- 6 years
Average career of a NFL player- 3 years.
Quarterbacks- 4.44 years
Cornerbacks-2.94 years
Wide receivers- 2.81 years
Running backs- 2.57 years
http://www.statista.com/statistics/240102/average-player-career-length-in-the-national-football-league/
Players with at least one Pro Bowl appearance/selection- 11.7 years
First round draft picks- 9.3 years.
Player with at least three pension-credited seasons- 7.1 years.
Player who makes a club's opening day roster in their rookie year- 6 years
Average career of a NFL player- 3 years.
Quarterbacks- 4.44 years
Cornerbacks-2.94 years
Wide receivers- 2.81 years
Running backs- 2.57 years
http://www.statista.com/statistics/240102/average-player-career-length-in-the-national-football-league/
Gaines Adams.
it was sad that he passed away so young, but the guy was terrible on the field.
Dude was possibly the scrawniest DE I've seen.
Grover Cleveland
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The guy with Geno Smith as his QB talks shit. Rich
Lately they haven't found those 1st round studs though. Hit a few in the back half of the draft, so who cares.
Someone messaged me that none of the various picks made because of Trent Truck worked out. All busts.
Yes, and I couldn't be more excited about it.
How big are Mariottas knees?
DeaconKnowledge
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Eh, where Steelers are really missing are the 2nd and third rounds. That's where they used to find all of those linebacking studs that played for 2-3 contracts. They no longer have the luxury of being one of a handful of 3-4 teams so those guys go fast now.