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NFL Preseason/Training Camp Thread |OT| - Make America Great For Once
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TMNT is doo-doo.
Happened to be the QB of the team with one of the best defenses in NFL history. Cool.
Still overrated
https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/1734/is-russell-wilson-the-greatest-young-quarterback-ever
Remember when you paid two QBs and then traded your draft for another?Happened to be the QB of the team with one of the best defenses in NFL history. Cool.
Still overrated
Wouldn't you rather pay a top-5 QB that got you a ring than 3 guys who have never done anything in the league?
Zvonimir Boban
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Eagles have a QB taken first overall AND a QB taken second overall.
Greatest collection of QB talent in NFL history imo.
Sweeney Tom
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I'd rather pay the defense that got me a ring, not the QB who lost the defense a 2nd one.Wouldn't you rather pay a top-5 QB that got you a ring than 3 guys who have never done anything in the league?
Not a single QB in this league I would take over Russell at this point. None.
And that includes Rodgers.
Please tell me what players Seattle's defense has lost due to Russells contract and has lessened their defense?
You sound like the same people who keep repeating over and over that Brrock was paid too much. Brock was paid the going rate for a QB in this league because the Eagles were morons and gave Bradford stupid money.
And that includes Rodgers.
Please tell me what players Seattle's defense has lost due to Russells contract and has lessened their defense?
You sound like the same people who keep repeating over and over that Brrock was paid too much. Brock was paid the going rate for a QB in this league because the Eagles were morons and gave Bradford stupid money.
Himynameischris
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Yes, we are aware of your QB evaluations.
Russell, Flacco, Trent Dilfer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marino,Tannehill and Romo
Wait.....Brock Osweiler>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marino.
OOooooooohhhh yeah!
That same defense gave up a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter. And we're paying them too, so your argument is faulty. Besides, everyone knows that the Pats cheated in that game. If we had to throw that interception to unveil their deception it was well worth it.
Also, throwing an INT in the Super Bowl (or even in the playoffs period) would be the greatest accomplishment of any of your three QBs careers!
PanicFreak
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I would kill for Russell on my team but taking him over Rodgers? Bruh. If you account for youth, maybe, but for talent, no way in hell.
Also, the Seahawks lost Bruce Irvin this year. But I think he was lost because they didn't pick up his fifth year option.
Grover Cleveland
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Digging up on dirt in the old threads and I came across this post which really is a gem all the way around, it must be said
MechDX said:
They let him go because they weren't willing/able to pay him what he'd get on the market.
Also, it's a bit of a chicken/egg scenario, but they're saying they're going to play a lot more nickel this year, so Bruce wouldn't have been on the field as much.
I dunno, that sounds exactly like what JFF was doing!
Wussle is a piss poor pocket qb. Definitely a system qb. If you keep him in the pocket he is probably not going to beat you. Granted you can win with him if you have the best defense in the league, but fuck the Broncos just showed us last year that if your defense is good enough and the Bungles hurt enough of your competition that you can win with a corpse for qb.
Mech needs to lay off the drugs.
Mech needs to lay off the drugs.
Sweeney Tom
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I'm snitching to the Savage one about this betrayal at the next meeting of the Toms*
*Much like the HOF, Br*dy has been blackballed from meetings
Mackenzie 92
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Raiders 1st depth chart.
Notes-
2nd round pick Jihad Ward is listed as starter at DT after having a strong camp and tossing Osemele around like a rag doll.
No surprise 1st round pick Karl Joseph is slated to start at SS.
4th round pick Connor Cook has been unable to unseat McGloin at backup QB.
Notes-
2nd round pick Jihad Ward is listed as starter at DT after having a strong camp and tossing Osemele around like a rag doll.
No surprise 1st round pick Karl Joseph is slated to start at SS.
4th round pick Connor Cook has been unable to unseat McGloin at backup QB.
Himynameischris
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Youth is one reason but Russell has proven to be clutch. Bionic? What QB isnt a "system QB"? A good coach will build and mold his system around a QB's strength. Dumb argument.
How can I be held accountable for the choices a QB makes when buying a working alarm clock?
Grover Cleveland
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That's why its so good!
Mech has been spot-on on Jiffa and dead wrong on every other QB ever.
PanicFreak
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So Russell's contract had to have something to do with that. I see it as a loss you're willing to take as a Seahawks fan though.
sf2fanatic
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A lady wearing a Gronk Jersey on the Price is Right failed at winning a prize. lol
Matt Schaub going to get that MVP in Atlanta next year and I will be proven right again.
Mallett taking over for Flacco and leading the Ravens to the playoff
Now if only Ron would have wised up and insert Kaves boy Derek Anderson in the Super Bowl it could have been different
DeaconKnowledge
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Watch the Steelers vs Seahawks game again. Russell styled on us from the pocket. I had the same opinion you did of Russ before that game.
You could put elite qb's like Rodgers and Big Ben in any system and they would excel because they can fucking slang the football in the pocket. Peyton used to be like that before he died. Not sure Eli is there or not. He is a tough one to read. One day he looks like the best player in the world. The next he looks like someone who is going to struggle to make the high school team.
I guess? You could also point to Earl/Sherman/Wagner/Bennett's upcoming contracts for the same reason. It's not like Russell is the only guy getting paid.
That defense was playing against one of the best QBs to ever cheat the game.
Russell is good. Definitely above average, but he is overrated. He does not elevate the players around him like a Rodgers or Brady. Not worth the contract when you could've kept guys like Maxwell and Irvin
Who hasn't styled on us from the pocket?
When you get no pressure and can't cover even goobers like Flacco will tear that shit up.
Werent you one of the Steelers fans here bitching about the offensive system holding Ben back when Arians left?
...The same Maxwell that looked like the worst CB in the league for your team? That Maxwell?
Zvonimir Boban
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Grover Cleveland
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Hakeem Nicks getting cut means we can have Hakeem Nicks to the Panthers Watch 2016
He was actually not bad. Our DC was shit though.
Not every player fits every system. He was great in Seattle.
this old man is so out of touch smh
He was alright. He still gave up his fair share of plays, but having the other three guys in the secondary made that alright. We certainly wouldn't have paid him what the Eagles did even if we didn't have to pay anyone else.
Ya. We all knew he wasn't worth what the birds paid him, but let's not act like losing him was addition by subtraction for Seattle.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ah..the "stacked team" argument. Only time a QB elevates his teammates is if they are garbage without him, and a team like that ain't winning shit. Just ask late Era Colts Peyton or Aaron Rodgers.
we sacked Russ twice. Yeah we had coverage issues, but he made the throws from the pocket, which i didn't think he could do previously. It wasn't the only game he did that in either.
Giants had a QB taken first overall AND ANOTHER QB taken first overall.
Objectively a greater collection of QB talent and one that has never been beaten.
Wussle is definitely one of the better qb's in the game today, but I was responding to Mech's insane point that he was the BEST qb in the game. Even though I think Ben is better than him right now, I would probably be ok swapping Ben for Russle just because of his age. Ben probably doesn't have that much left in the tank, while little Russle is going to be playing for a long time yet and is going to continue to improve, barring injury.
As a pure passer, probably only Rodgers throws a consistently better ball. But he still has to improve his play in the pocket to be truly elite IMO.
Grover Cleveland
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I hate everything about that little bastard Russell 4Leafs and fully admit it.
But the track record speaks for itself at this point. He was the best QB in football the second half of last season and is absolutely top 5.
But the track record speaks for itself at this point. He was the best QB in football the second half of last season and is absolutely top 5.
every time i see AT's avatar it makes me think that i need to get me some corn rows ASAP
Do it fam, we can be twins. #thuglife
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