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NFL Week 5 Thread! - Rushing rules!
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Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
That was fucking brilliant by Morton. Smart play.
Fifty said:It's amazing how in the preseason, the Ravens had the worst return game in the NFL with Frightful, and then Sams was sent to us from Heaven and now we've got one of the best.
Somebody commented that he's leading the league in punt returns...
Nice second effort by Taylor.
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I'm not convinced that "by rule" the kick is out of bounds, as the game crew and guys in the broadcast booth said. It strikes me as strange that a returner is allowed to go out of bounds and then make a play on the ball. That would make him the only guy on the football field who is allowed to do that.
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With the Giants now 4-1 I'm now convinced that I'm on Earth 2. At least the Jets i expected to be 4-0 by this time with their uber-weak schedule.
How many weeks before Warner gets a concussion and disappears? I'm eager to see Eli self-destruct in his first season.
Go my favorite sports team!
How many weeks before Warner gets a concussion and disappears? I'm eager to see Eli self-destruct in his first season.
Go my favorite sports team!
soulja224466
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what a great day. warner wins and the rams win
Awww, it's obviously gotta be a rule. The guy that caught the ball obviously knew what he was doing (the way he put one foot out and then streched in-bounds to catch the ball). It's just one of those bizarre "trivia" rules that almost never comes into play.....like how a batter can still try and run to first after his third strike.SickBoy said:
It struck me as kind of funny and ironic, because as you might recall the Ravens made a big play on an obscure rule a while back. One of their guys caught the ball from a missed field goal and ran all the way back for a touchdown.....it's probably still the most yards on a single play in all of NFL history.
Although it didn't make any kind of difference, it did kind of annoy me. Most rules have a reason behind them (like protecting players from harm), but this one just seems to be some cheesy bit of trivia that discourages kickers from trying to kick the ball near the sideline. It's annoying because it tries to remove a layer of strategy from the kickoff. Kickers should be able to aim for the sideline because it lets them pin the returner into a corner or it stops the play if the ball bounces out.
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I didn't realize people thought this was an obsure rule(apparently players on the opposing team did), anytime the ball is in the air it's pretty much considered "live". I think that rule makes more sense than that step out of bounds and touch the ball shit.
Hell stepping out of bounds in certain instances makes you ineligible... just a crazy one.
I bleed burgundy and gold...
... and today I need a blood transfusion.
Ravens offense just wore down a Redskins defense that kept the team in the game for an insane amount of time. Redskins offense needs to do something - hell! - ANYTHING. You got Rod Gardner, Laveranues Coles, Clinton Portis and one of the best QB depth charts in the NFL. This is just sad.
If they enter their bye 1-5, there is no hope for at least a 8-8 season.
It is worth mentioning that Joe Gibbs started out 0-5 in his first season back in '81. Maybe there is a transition time for him. Who knows. Maybe he's washed up.
BRING BACK SPURRIER.
... OH. AND ONE MORE THING.
Wellington, you have a mediocre team with no-name talent. The Patriots have a similiar thing going, but their coach is infinitely better than Coughlin. The Giants won't make the postseason and if they do, they'll do it the same way Dallas did it last year -- beating up shitty division teams.
Instead of this year, Dallas and Washington suck instead of New York and Washington. I'd expect the Giants to beat crappy teams and one can argue that the playoff teams do, but there's nothing special about the Giants other than they've feasted on some of the most mediocre and poor teams in the NFL.
In the end, if they continue this route, I look forward to next year when everyone realizes New York is a mediocre football club. Much like the Cowboys this year.
NFC East = NFC Least. One sucky team. Two mediocre teams. One actual good team.
At this rate, I say put Arizona back in.
... and today I need a blood transfusion.
Ravens offense just wore down a Redskins defense that kept the team in the game for an insane amount of time. Redskins offense needs to do something - hell! - ANYTHING. You got Rod Gardner, Laveranues Coles, Clinton Portis and one of the best QB depth charts in the NFL. This is just sad.
If they enter their bye 1-5, there is no hope for at least a 8-8 season.
It is worth mentioning that Joe Gibbs started out 0-5 in his first season back in '81. Maybe there is a transition time for him. Who knows. Maybe he's washed up.
BRING BACK SPURRIER.
... OH. AND ONE MORE THING.
Wellington, you have a mediocre team with no-name talent. The Patriots have a similiar thing going, but their coach is infinitely better than Coughlin. The Giants won't make the postseason and if they do, they'll do it the same way Dallas did it last year -- beating up shitty division teams.
Instead of this year, Dallas and Washington suck instead of New York and Washington. I'd expect the Giants to beat crappy teams and one can argue that the playoff teams do, but there's nothing special about the Giants other than they've feasted on some of the most mediocre and poor teams in the NFL.
In the end, if they continue this route, I look forward to next year when everyone realizes New York is a mediocre football club. Much like the Cowboys this year.
NFC East = NFC Least. One sucky team. Two mediocre teams. One actual good team.
At this rate, I say put Arizona back in.
Man,aside from Lewis,those have to be 2 of the most pathetic offenses I've ever seen,regardless of how good the D is.The Skins offensive line might as well not even be there,then Brunell drops back 20 yards every snap,Ravens WRs can't catch wide open passes,then set up tip drills for the Skins,hahahaha,pathetic.Plus Boller is the worst QB in the league bar none,roofles,enjoy 2nd place ladies!
LinesInTheSand
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Yeah the Ravens offense blows ass. What is awesome is that we're still gonna win the Super Bowl this year regardless.
Ramirez said:Man,aside from Lewis,those have to be 2 of the most pathetic offenses I've ever seen,regardless of how good the D is.The Skins offensive line might as well not even be there,then Brunell drops back 20 yards every snap,Ravens WRs can't catch wide open passes,then set up tip drills for the Skins,hahahaha,pathetic.Plus Boller is the worst QB in the league bar none,roofles,enjoy 2nd place ladies!
The 'Skins offensive line did its job. There were times where Brunell got plenty of protection and held on to the ball forever. Considering Jansen is out, the 'Skins offensive line is the only thing about their offense I can applaud.
Time for a QUARTERBACK CHANGE.
LinesInTheSand said:
Well our Ravens fans should definitely aim for the stars... I personally think we'll make it in to the playoffs, and then bow out in hmmm the 2nd round.
One thing I noticed last night... obviously whenever Jamal comes in to the game defenses key on that. Which is why we should take advantage of that... design some pass plays around plays that look EXACTLY like Jamal run plays.
Hell look how the Special Teams defense keyed on Deion when he came in to do punt return.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Willco said:
Congrats on holding the Ravens offense (29th in the league) to doing almost nothing and tiring your defense out. Were you watching the same game we were? The time of possession was in favor of the Ravens by five minutes. Considering they held the ball for almost the entire fourth quarter, that's to be expected, but it's quite clear that it was the defense and special teams that beat the Redskins while the offense kept handing the Skins good field position. Good defense against a mediocre at best offense... :lol
Ah, the ol' excuse for Gibbs, the Redskin's savior.
No name talent? Are you blind here? Former MVP Kurt Warner? Tiki Barber playing exactly the same just NOT fumbling? Jeremy Shockey finally getting used to the offense? Amani Toomer finally getting some deep balls thrown his way so he can show his speed? Michael Strahan leading a young and inexperienced defense that held Green Bay to 7 points and knocked out Favre, as well as holding the #2 air attack in the league to just 126 yards?
Turn on sportscenter. Lot's of talk about Tiki Barber and Kurt Warner. Giants won't make the post-season? That wasn't my expectation for the year. I'll be happy if they go 5-11 showing improvement from last year. Though I have been optimistic, I am also realistic and I know that this team is not one of the elite teams in the league, and not even in the top ten. However, how much shit did you and other Redskin's fans talk about the NFC East? Welcome to dead LAST place.
I really hope you aren't calling Mark Brunell, Laveranues Coles, LaVar Arrington, Mike Barrow, Sean Taylor, Cornelius Griffin, etc. big name talent. They haven't performed well enough to even deserve a win, let alone the fact that half of them are injured. Face it, you and your brethren dug yourself this hole and now you have to sit in it and stew until next year. :lol @ no-name talent. I'd rather have no-name talent that performs than in inflated pay-roll that does nothing year after year (Thank you Mr. Snyder!). Do I have to mention the biggest RB bust of the year, Clinton Portis?
Wah wah wah. I'd be the first to tell you that there are some serious holes in the Giants team, and yeah, they've beaten Cleveland, Washington, Dallas, and Green Bay, not the greatest teams this year... But hey, Washington lost to the Giants, Ravens, Cleveland, and Dallas. Feasting on the most mediocre and poor teams? Both the Giants and Skins have played both Cleveland and Dallas. With their no-name talent they were able to beat them. Washington? Barely beat Tampa Bay. Don't give me shit about beating mediocre to poor teams. You and your big name talent down there have nothing. The Giants lost to arguably the best team in the league, and haven't lost since.
Washington plays GB in Week 8. We'll see then. Of course, the next three games for the Giants will be considerably tougher, Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago after a bye week. But hey, all I need is one more win and my expectations will be fulfilled, you? Realistically the Skins need to go at least 9-2 to make the playoffs. They have the Eagles twice, the Vikings, the Lions, the Giants again, the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Bears, the Packers, the Bengals, and the Niners. :lol
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Actually, it was done to put emphasis on the return. Bigger, better return = shorter field. Shorter field = more scoring. More scoring = more ratings. And you know, I agree with the NFL. Watching kickers try to aim the ball out of bounds on purpose would not only be annoying, but would probably actually be detrimental in some aspects. Hell, half of the kickers can't even reach the endzone.
ck, don't worry, the giants day of reckoning is nigh'. besides, i never predicted anything spectacular for the skins this year. perhaps you'll find some quotes that are attributed to me, but i'm pretty sure i was in a drunken state when typing out such predictions... i'm happy with 8-8 while the giants slide to 6-10..
Wellington said:
I guess you must've missed the three turnovers on defense that absolutely destroyed the Ravens passing game. They held Jamal Lewis to minimal yardage until the fourth quarter when they were compeltely run down. Your offense can't go THREE AND OUT over and over, keeping your defense on the field, and not get tired. Really.
It's the same defense that kepts the Redskins in the game by six points against your Giants despite SEVEN TURNOVERS. SEVEN-FUCKING-TURNOVERS. And the Giants won by less than a touchdown!
Maybe you should try watching a game instead of writing Tiki Barber love letters!
[oh snap!]
... As for Gibbs, there's no excuses or savior talk. Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. He's proven himself and he doesn't need to prove himself again. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the Redskins' offensive players.
I don't even care about the playoffs, I'd just like to see the Redskins earn some respectability. They should start by benching Brunell, probably.
The Giants have a realistic shot at making the playoffs, especially if they can con two more wins out of the Cowboys and Redskins. Both are division opponents that are reeling from a poor start and lack of productive output. The Giants don't have coach or the talent to go deep, though. And they're going to have to decide when to put Eli in eventually.
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