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NHL 2011-2012 Offseason thread of Cash Rules Everything Around Me
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That was before they signed another 30 day extension. Referendum signatures aren't due until the 9th so it won't be before then.
KingHenrik30
Member
Devils have always had to contend with the fact that most of the people in their state are either rangers or flyers fans.
KingHenrik30
Member
I don't think MSG is going to apologize for putting their own teams ahead of the devils. Besides, even the Rangers are second class citizens on MSG, they get bumped for the Knicks all the time.
Now they know how Ottawa and buffalo feels
But there isn't really any excuse- this is a team that won multiple cups
They have had a legendary goaltender, a couple hall of fame defensemen and a couple potential hall of fame forwards
They should be selling out
They are basically surrounded by hockey hotbed in Philly, Toronto, Montreal, Boston and New York and they can't sell out in the playoffs?
Now they know how Ottawa and buffalo feels
Eh, it's pretty hard to find a Toronto fan in New York. The proximity is really different. The Rangers and Devils (and Islanders) are basically on top of each other.
The point is you should be able to upgrade in a year or two.
KingHenrik30
Member
You can overpay for Abdelkader!
I think that guy works for Eklund, too. :lol
Sabres have never had a hard time selling tickets because of Toronto, though. Only time they really ran into some trouble is when the owner was arrested and put away for life, heh.
I'd rather win now.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I'm not saying they should, I'm just saying it obviously doesn't grow the fanbase as much. Of course cablevision is going to put rangers first, they would be moronic not to. I still wish hockey was more on normal channels than having to have cable/satellite. :/
Lone_Prodigy
Member
According to CapGeek, 21 teams have $20M+ in cap space. Technically they could all take a run at Suter and Parise.
yankeehater
Member
Now they know how Ottawa and buffalo feels
But there isn't really any excuse- this is a team that won multiple cups
They have had a legendary goaltender, a couple hall of fame defensemen and a couple potential hall of fame forwards
They should be selling out
They are basically surrounded by hockey hotbed in Philly, Toronto, Montreal, Boston and New York and they can't sell out in the playoffs?
All those hockey hotbeds already have teams to root for. The idea that Rangers fans living in NJ would jump ship to a new team was insane. Nothing is going to make the Rangers/Flyers fans in NJ switch over to being Devils fans. There just are not enough fans in that area for the Devils to have a big fanbase. I really do think at some point that team will be out of there. It might take a while but there have to be open markets that would support a 3 times cup winning team better.
KernelPanic
Member
Now they know how Ottawa and buffalo feels
We don't really have trouble selling tickets, it's only bad when we play the Habs and Leafs.
I wasn't really suggesting difficulty
It's just before the sabres and senators came along, those areas (and referencing a lot of fans north of the border in niagara region for buffalo) were/still are heavily entrenched in leafs fans
so the area in which they are drawing fans from are traditionally regions from other teams
KernelPanic
Member
Oh my bad then.
Ottawa is pretty much split 3 ways into Sens, Habs and Leaf fans. I doubt that will change much in the future but we've got more than enough support here (and it's growing) so I can't see us ever having problems like NJ.
A few days ago they were talking about restricting ticket sales from out of town (mostly Toronto I imagine) as it gets really bad when Leaf fans invade our arena.
They better not, I love going to Ottawa to see the Leafs play. LOL
The last game I went to was on St. Patty's day, and there had to more Leafs jerseys than Sens... and we were significantly louder as well. I was surprised I didn't see any fights, but that was for the best considering I was taking my son and nephews.
KingHenrik30
Member
The problem, like we've been saying, is that there isn't much of a fanbase to begin with. NJ has a choice of up to 3 hockey teams to root for depending on what part of the state you live in. Devils get lost in the shuffle.
KernelPanic
Member
Yeah things tend to get ugly I hear, a lot of of season ticket holders just sell their tickets because they don't want to bring their kids into that.
I imagine a lot of Leaf fans in TO who don't want to give up a kidney to see games at the ACC drive up here instead.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I really like how yankeehater keeps harping on them leaving like he is even close to giving an unbiased analysis of the franchise. :lol
Ya, I think when they're doing well they'll do alright though but it seems like it would hurt them hard if they ever start to suck hard. I think moving to Newark was a huge plus, especially so close to the main station in Newark, it's literally one street down and you can see if from the station. Curious how it works in the long run, but that definitely made me go to their stadium more than before, so much more convenient.
Ya, I think when they're doing well they'll do alright though but it seems like it would hurt them hard if they ever start to suck hard. I think moving to Newark was a huge plus, especially so close to the main station in Newark, it's literally one street down and you can see if from the station. Curious how it works in the long run, but that definitely made me go to their stadium more than before, so much more convenient.
yankeehater
Member
Yeah like I am the only one who brought that up.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
One person? I think only Dopey said they would go under. Anyway it's irrelevant, it's just funny seeing you so blindly hate them no matter what.
yankeehater
Member
Right and I was replying to what dopey said.
KingHenrik30
Member
I went to the rock once. I'm never going back. That place was like the Mos Eisley Cantina. 90% of the people there look like mutants who just crawled out ofthe Hudson. Ugliest fanbase on the planet.
Nothing comes close to the Pittsburgh ones.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
:lol What section did you sit in? I've never had a problem in the lower sections but the upper sections fucking suck. But I think the upper sections are usually shitholes no matter where you go though.
Nope.
KingHenrik30
Member
Haha yeah we were up top. Still, they were gross /shudder
ZeroGravity
Member
Ahaha, what?!
And apparently Bob McKenzie thinks Tampa is in the mix for Justin Schultz too.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Sound like reach. The it would be a wonderful bluff by Tallon in the Lou talks...
But now:
Sound like reach. The it would be a wonderful bluff by Tallon in the Lou talks...
But now:
Where is Markstrom going...?
BRACING FOR IMPACT
Bag of oranges.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
God I hope Schneider implodes. I don't even hate the Nucks, but the idea that Luongo is a problem at all is just ridiculous to me.
KingHenrik30
Member
Everyday McKenzie comes out with a new team that may be in on Schultz. Leads me to believe nobody really knows what the fuck is going on over at Newport.
Man, it's the goalies responsibility to score goals in the playoffs, don't you know anything.
yankeehater
Member
You are the one always going on about the cap, they are dumping the more expensive guy for the much cheaper guy. I thought that you would love this move.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
If it was JUST a cap dump I would get it, but this is more than that. First, Lu's hit is reasonable for a consistent Vezina hopeful. Second, you're dumping him for a less sure bet. I talk about the cap in terms of VALUE and FUTURE COST. Lu's hit is set at a fair value for his play until he retires and when he does it won't be a problem because he signed the contract before 35.
Crazymoogle
Member
Not really excited about the idea of dealing Luongo. He's had some bad playoff games but also a lot of good ones and a lot of regular season success too. (Quick went on a super hot streak. Oh well. This crap happens. The real key to winning is sustained success, ie: the Wings who for years were playoff chokers)
Schneider gives us more cap room but he'd also have been worth more in a deal, I'd think. Hopefully he is as good as he seems to be - luckily his demeanor is awesome - because I really don't want to be reading the same old crap about this only with Schneider and Lack next year.
(Who am I kidding? BC papers will probably just run round the clock unsubstantiated trade rumors on every player anyway)
Schneider gives us more cap room but he'd also have been worth more in a deal, I'd think. Hopefully he is as good as he seems to be - luckily his demeanor is awesome - because I really don't want to be reading the same old crap about this only with Schneider and Lack next year.
(Who am I kidding? BC papers will probably just run round the clock unsubstantiated trade rumors on every player anyway)
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
If Tallon and Santos want Markstrom to do a full AHL year to test his knees, having a proven guy to shoulder the starter role as Theo's health is a concern makes sense. Lou contract though is a large hindrance as Marky is ready to start in 2 years time tops.
I have no idea what this trade could look like.
It would be an improvement that's for sure.
KernelPanic
Member
Markstrom situation sounds similar to Lehner and Ottawa. They want him to have more AHL experience.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Schneider's sensible contract makes him very moveable if (a) he stinks and/or (b) Lack turns out to be the Second Coming. It leaves Gillis with far fewer risks than if he'd decided to keep Luongo.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
:lol Nothing more needs to be said. My first game ever was in the nose bleeds, I never sat in the nose bleeds again...
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