Whatever, makes sense. Detroit and Minnesota were the only two to send a mob to each of their homes today, so I seems like they've narrowed it down to two, probably three teams including Pittsburg for Parise. They're wondering if they should take the bonus cash to play on a shitty team close to home, or if they should go to the best team in the universe for less.
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NHL 2011-2012 Offseason thread of Cash Rules Everything Around Me
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Whatever, makes sense. Detroit and Minnesota were the only two to send a mob to each of their homes today, so I seems like they've narrowed it down to two, probably three teams including Pittsburg for Parise. They're wondering if they should take the bonus cash to play on a shitty team close to home, or if they should go to the best team in the universe for less.
Any team that's in it could make room for them. He also mentioned that Paul Martin called him to sell him on the Pens. :lol
"Hey, hope you sign here and they dump me to make room for Suter."
3 top prospects and Foligno for a 60 point player with a terrible contract. Lawl no.
Paul "the martyr" Martin to sacrifice himself for the good of the Penguins?!
Parise to Pittsburgh, and Suter to Detroit seems to make the most sense. That's why they'll both sign with Minnesota?
As for Parise saying "it would be great" to play with Suter, how about playing with last year's Hart and Art Ross winner, and the "best player in the world"? How cool is that, Zachary?
I agree, if they have a secret agreement that nobody other than the two know about.
"@MikeColligan: According to a source close to the situation, #NHL has lent the #Devils at least $20m but is giving ownership leeway to come to a solution"
Just move them.
When a team has trouble selling tickets in the 3rd round of the playoffs against their rival then your in trouble.
Just move them.
When a team has trouble selling tickets in the 3rd round of the playoffs against their rival then your in trouble.
"Not two, not three, not four, not five..."
I'm sorry it had to be done. However, I think that they will sign in different places ultimately. Suter will end up in like Philly or Detroit and there's a part of me that thinks that Parise will end up back in the swamp for less or Pit.
Probably guilt trip city coming from Lou on this one.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm still puzzled as to how you keep saying Parise to Pittsburgh "makes the most sense."
Parise wants to be "the guy" in the city he plays hockey in. The only city that will work in that is still in the running is Minnesota.
Pens will be winning 6-4 hockey games every night next season!
CrazedArabMan
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Would love it but I just don't think it is going to happen and I'm starting to think we don't even get Suter, what makes you say that?
I thought Parise wanted a Stanley Cup. He's never going to get that in Minnesota.
He would be "the guy" in Detroit. As much as Detroit loves Zetterberg and Datsyuk, they'd just play-make Parise straight to the top.
He could come to Detroit for a cup too, but without Suter I don't see that happening. If he goes to Pittsburgh he'd have a better chance.
CrazedArabMan
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Parise would be the goal scorer guy for sure if he signed, he could take passes from Datsyuk and Zetterberg all day.
Unhandled Exception
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Parise and Suter are going to start their own team in Quebec. Sorry Phoenix.
Good, now I can concentrate on having fun this 4th instead of refreshing GAF on my phone to see if they've signed anywhere.
How do you know? They have solid prospects in the pipeline and in a parity league, anything is possible.
If they both go to Pitts then it would look like a MiamiHeat situation where that would become the most hated team in the league with Crosby and crew. I think both players care about their reputation and especially Parise on how he hates the media attention this is getting.
Minnisota probably cant afford both and they want
to win now.
Philly- No one knows what they are doing.
Detroit- Respected humble franchise with room and a chance to win now.
This is just if both decide they want to play together.
CrazedArabMan
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I don't care how legit, it gives me hope!
13 year, say 8 mil avg., 10 in the first two, $104 total....still think it's not right for him.
EDIT: in terms of money; I never thought that Ryan Suter would be able to command that type of money. I always saw Weber as the more dynamic and better player of the pairing.
I think the average would be lower due to the 13 years.
I'd say $7-7.5M per season. ($91-97.5M total)
Coldnoodle
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Hey, hey, hey now. The Senators were bankrupt at one point D:
Yeah from not because we werent selling tickets in the 3rd round of the playoffs but from not paying overdue bills to investors who were owed money to build a franchise that was 9 years old between the 2 biggest markets in hockey.
Yes, We have enough money for both of them and then some. We also have about 15 mil in cap space coming off the books in the next two years.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Noooooooooo...absolute insanity. Holland is screwing this team royally in the future.
Still don't believe it til more legit source confirms.
KernelPanic
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Don't forget the nasty exchange rate at the time, the NHL now covers the difference.
CrazedArabMan
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Minnesota wild is probably one of the more profitable teams in the league behind the big cities.
in terms of hockey player output, it's Southern Ontario, followed by Southern Quebec, followed by Minnesota/Wisconsin. Just to give you an idea of hockey popularity there. (And I hesisitated putting Quebec above that region)
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
And now I'm sad again.
Good. That's a crazy contract for anyone.
CrazedArabMan
Member
All the more reason for Suter to come here. To me though it does seem like Suter wants Detroit but Parise wants him to go to Minny with him, it does sound rather plausible with all of the Suter talk to Detroit going around and then all of a sudden a freeze on any signing.
FYI, here are some of the 10+ year contracts:
1. Rick Dipietro Islanders 15 $67.5 $4.5 24
2. Ilya Kovalchuk Devils 15 $100 $6.67 27
3. Alexander Ovechkin Capitals 13 $123.5 $9.5 22
4. Mike Richards Flyers 12 $69 $5.7 22
5. Henrik Zetterberg Red Wings 12 $73 $6.0 28
6. Marian Hossa Blackhawks 12 $62.4 $5.2 30
7. Roberto Luongo Canucks 12 $64 $5.3 30
8. Duncan Keith Blackhawks 12 $66 $5.5 26
9. Johan Franzen Red Wings 11 $43 $3.9 29
10. Vincent Lecavalier Lightning 11 $84.7 $7.7 27
11. Jeff Carter Flyers 11 $58 $5.27 25
12. Nicklas Backstrom Capitals 10 $67 $6.7 22
13. Alexei Yashin Islanders 10 $87.5 N/A* 27
When will people learn that the 10+ year contract usually ends up as a disaster. Some of those contracts above will start to get worse and worse as the years go by.
Now the only hope for the 10+ year contracts that are front-loaded is to not have a NTC and trade them to salary floor teams when their salaries are much lower but their cap hits are higher.
1. Rick Dipietro Islanders 15 $67.5 $4.5 24
2. Ilya Kovalchuk Devils 15 $100 $6.67 27
3. Alexander Ovechkin Capitals 13 $123.5 $9.5 22
4. Mike Richards Flyers 12 $69 $5.7 22
5. Henrik Zetterberg Red Wings 12 $73 $6.0 28
6. Marian Hossa Blackhawks 12 $62.4 $5.2 30
7. Roberto Luongo Canucks 12 $64 $5.3 30
8. Duncan Keith Blackhawks 12 $66 $5.5 26
9. Johan Franzen Red Wings 11 $43 $3.9 29
10. Vincent Lecavalier Lightning 11 $84.7 $7.7 27
11. Jeff Carter Flyers 11 $58 $5.27 25
12. Nicklas Backstrom Capitals 10 $67 $6.7 22
13. Alexei Yashin Islanders 10 $87.5 N/A* 27
When will people learn that the 10+ year contract usually ends up as a disaster. Some of those contracts above will start to get worse and worse as the years go by.
Now the only hope for the 10+ year contracts that are front-loaded is to not have a NTC and trade them to salary floor teams when their salaries are much lower but their cap hits are higher.
SpectreFire
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Why do I have this feeling that AV is going to use Andrew Alberts to fill in for Kesler on the top six?
Dastardly Jerks
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ahahahah @ everyone that was never under the impression that @HockeyyInsiderr is actually an intentional troll/joke.
Um, Brian Lawton just said that Suter is going to minny?..https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/brianlawton9/status/220399871310569472
Zach Parise: hockey player, American hero, patriot, and Pittsburgh Penguin.
Slurmer, whaaaaaat. Does this mean Parise will follow? Does Suter also have Minny ties ala Parise?
brucewaynegretzky
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A lot of those don't look horrible, especially when you consider they were big hits at that time and are calculated to decrease in percentage of cap space over the course of the contract.
Everyone here seems to love to hate on these contracts. I think they make a lot of sense for the big market teams, particularly when they don't include a NMC.
yankeehater
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I hope Suter does go to the Wild. I am at the point where I just want this to be over.
I think this is the first time I'm actually glad the Canucks have no cap space at all, I'm not emotionally involved in this AT ALL.
yankeehater
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yankeehater
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Him and Bryz duking it out for comeback player of the year.
Edit: congrats man, I meant to post that earlier but got caught up in drinking.
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