alexthekid
Member
It would be insane to trade malkin before they decide to go full rebuild.
If they feel like their window is still open if they do adjustments, he is the last person they should trade.
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NHL December 2015 |OT| How John Tortorella Stole Christmas
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If they feel like their window is still open if they do adjustments, he is the last person they should trade.
Like you're any worse than what's already there.
Calamari41
41 > 38
The thing that made it so great is that it wasn't banter... the Calgary "people" were dead serious.
ZeroGravity
Member
Odds are pretty high Stamkos finally pulls his head out of his ass to play a good game tonight.
The entire twitter like thing was probably just a negotiation ploy on his camp's part. I can see him signing in Tampa long term before season's end.
Simon Belmont
Banned
I don't think he's headed to the Leafs, but I don't think he'll stay in Tampa either.
In any event, i'm sure it was a ploy on their part to put pressure on Tampa. He's not that stupid to accidentally like a tweet like that.
ZeroGravity
Member
Hedman, Johnson, Kucherov, Palat, and Bishop all need new contracts within the next two years. Quite frankly they're all more important players to the Lightning than Stamkos right now. Yzerman can't afford to pay Stamkos the money he's likely asking for, and why would Stamkos take less when he knows they'll be a bidding war in the offseason?
If he wanted to take less to be the leader of a young championship caliber team, he would have done so already. He's as good as gone unless he actually starts showing something that would make Yzerman believe he's worth the absurd price tag.
If he wanted to take less to be the leader of a young championship caliber team, he would have done so already. He's as good as gone unless he actually starts showing something that would make Yzerman believe he's worth the absurd price tag.
Yzerman will flip him to the Rangers for Oscar Lindberg, Kevin Hayes, and Brady Skjei.
The Rangers will lose him to free agency (back to Tampa!) after being bounced in the second round.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
GOTY
NHL should get on board and give Team Flags or Colours for NHL Teams in Rocket League
GOTY
I need to get Rocket League.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Not to say you're wrong, but this is amazing. Almost all of these guys have 1, maybe 2 'good' seasons so far, all while playing with Stamkos, who himself has had 5-6 elite-tier seasons.
This feels all a bit like Chicago telling Toews or Kane thanks but no thanks, we're keeping Versteeg and Saad instead.
MultiJhonny
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what I am talking about
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I thought the same thing. It's amazing how quickly fans turn on their own players. Stamkos has been the best player for them for years, but now all of a sudden let's just dump him. Similar to Kessel here in Toronto, although Phil never reached the same heights as Stamkos.
MultiJhonny
Banned
we have another Oiler fan here.. oh god.
ZeroGravity
Member
The difference is that all those players contribute something to the team other than goals, and don't take nights off. Stamkos has become a huge liability away from the puck, and his effort some nights is extremely questionable. None of those players actually play with Stamkos either except on the PP, which is garbage.
Also your mistake is assuming that Stamkos is somehow still on the same level of a Toews or Kane. He's not. And he wants to be paid the same level as those guys, but hasn't won a damn thing to be deserving of it.
lol at comparing Johnson, Palat, and Kucherov to fucking Versteeg though.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
OH MY, WHO COULD'VE PREDICTED SUCH A THING.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
To be fair, Zero has been down on Stamkos for at least the last two seasons at least. This isn't sudden. It's the expectations that were set for Stamkos when he became elite, and how he's no longer there.
Id agree, though, that Stamkos is very important to the Lightning still. But Yzerman would likely be cannibalizing the franchise's future if he gave Stamkos ~$11m. Suddenly he can't resign multiple players, combined which are certainly more valuable than one Stamkos.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
JVR for Bolland. Bolland can keep Bernier company on the Marlies.
No Girardi?! :O
He was injured in the game against Vancouver and played through it. He'll probably be back for our little road back-to-back later this week. Knee swelling.
ZeroGravity
Member
This is the core of the issue right here. If Stamkos was still the same player he was before the injury, I'd say sure, sign him for whatever he wants, because he was a top 5 player in the league whose value alone was worth multiple players.
Now? Not so much, and the Lightning have plenty of good young players that already form a solid core on their own. And I don't think Yzerman's afraid of making the hard choice of letting Stamkos walk.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
From Friedman's 30 Thoughts
Let's fucking Sign Stamkos
WE DO IT
Let's fucking Sign Stamkos
WE DO IT
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
From September. hehehehehehehehehe
ZeroGravity
Member
Going to be a hard contract to move in-season though without taking on salary.
Thank fuck we dodged that bullet
Didn't Vermette fetch a first?
Teams will pay for the rental, obviously not going to get value but they'll get something and if it reaches that point Yzerman will probably take what he can get.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Some Good News about Kassian
Get Well soon sir.
Get Well soon sir.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Nooo Kassian, you were supposed to stay in rehab until the end of the seasonHe'll never play as a Hab, will take up cap space and has absolutely no value in a trade now.
Let him get help first. Then we can decide on what to do with him
That's why the Rangers put him on waivers. They expected him to be claimed.
He's a great faceoff guy and good depth center with multiple Stanley Cups, on a bargain $800k contract. There's a lot of value there.
The Rangers are just cutting bait with him because Dominic Moore fits into AV's system better at center, and the transition to wing hasn't worked for Stoll.
The big pain in the ass about this is that we're going to get to see Stoll again in just a couple days.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Smile Davey!!!
CreeperBlocks
Banned
WELP I guess Kassian is on Waivers now too
Yeah, what a travesty. Positive recovery for a human being who's struggled with addiction? And for whose benefit? Did he even think of how this would affect the Habs' totally manageable roster situation? Selfish twat.Nooo Kassian, you were supposed to stay in rehab until the end of the season
That's why the Rangers put him on waivers. They expected him to be claimed.
He's a great faceoff guy and good depth center with multiple Stanley Cups, on a bargain $800k contract. There's a lot of value there.
The Rangers are just cutting bait with him because Dominic Moore fits into AV's system better at center, and the transition to wing hasn't worked for Stoll.
The big pain in the ass about this is that we're going to get to see Stoll again in just a couple days.
I think it says a lot that only playoff teams put in a claim for him. Goes to show that GMs still overvalue those qualities because they think you need it to "get over the hump" or whatever.
Can he play forward?
I heard he played goalie as a kid during his street hockey career.