manfestival
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I would never commit such an atrocity.
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NHL March 2014 |OT| The C on Dustin Brown's jersey stands for Cu
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I would never commit such an atrocity.
Sucks, Datsyuk always kills the Bruins. Without him I don't expect much, but then again..Nyquist.
CrazedArabMan
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Expected no Datsyuk, but it sucks that Alfie is out. Now Bert is in and we only have 2 lines of offense. Going to be a massacre out there.
Yeah we really had 3 deadly scoring lines up until now...
... but seriously, alfie's been invisible. better he sits and gets healthy. Bert is awful but we'd be underdogs to win no matter our lineup. Any points tonight is a bonus.
Anything for an O6 bro.
But seriously, I'd like to see Detroit in the playoffs just not against the Bruins. Keep them in that #1 WC spot so they give Pittsburgh a scare in the first round.
Alternatively, maybe Philly could lose a few games and drop into the WC1 spot.
ActStriker
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probably will be
Chara-Hamilton
Meszaros-Boychuk
Krug-Miller
Be careful. That 06 talk be fighting words around here.
The way I look at it, I rather face any other team in the Eastern Conference than the Columbus Blue Jackets.
So............
KESSELLLLLLLLL - 36 goals - 8 more years at $8M
Pacioretty - 35 goals - 5 more years at $4.5M
Kessel -77 points
Paciorettt - 54
Not even comparable, Kessel is a very underrated playmaker.
Crosby only has 36 goals too and Malkin only 23. OVERPAIDSo............
KESSELLLLLLLLL - 36 goals - 8 more years at $8M
Pacioretty - 35 goals - 5 more years at $4.5M
Who do you think will ride the pine in the playoffs? I feel like Meszaros will be the odd man out to start.
Fuck assists homie. Kessel is known as a goal scorer and so is Pacioretty. Just doing an apples to apples comparison of that stat. St. David steals all the assists anyways.
Pacioretty is one dimensional and Kessel is dynamic. He's at a ppg pace over the last 3 years.
Pacioretty is not even in the same discussion, only ever seen the upside of 60 once.
Simon Belmont
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Also Kessel has had 30 goals in his last five seasons (shortened season doesn't count, he would have hit it). Pacioretti has been far less consistent.
Him and JVR would be a good comparable though.
Assists don't count because Pacs doesn't get any?
Based on his play in comparison, I'd almost want Hamilton in that spot.
Both Meszaros and Miller have been playing great as role-players, but it's probably going to be one of the two that find themselves largely off the ice.
O6 4 LYFE!!11!!
I dont want to see the Pens getting the BJ's and sweeping them in the first round. I feel like the Pens will be out for blood in a series against the Bruins after last years debacle and dont want them to start rolling.
Kessel's career goals (221) : assists (235) - 0.94
Pacioretty's career goals(103) : assists (104) - 0.99
Not that far off.
Also if you take each player's career PPG and extrapolate it over an 82 game season:
Kessel - 64 points
Pacioretty - 54 points
Kessel's is higher of course. But is 10 points worth $3.5M more?
OUT FOR BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
No, I mean he is really out for blood. He bladed incorrectly and had to go to the hospital.
CrazedArabMan
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I thought a scoring line meant whether they are out there to score goals or get scored on.
Simon Belmont
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Want to compare points per game over their careers?
Edit: you're overlooking that he's played almost 300 more games in the league, and has been awfully consistent and healthy in those games. So yeah, I'd pay more for that. Only a couple guys like that out there.
I don't know if I'd say Andersson-Helm-Alfredsson is a scoring line any way you look at it..
That don't sound good
ActStriker
Member
Probably Meszaros or Bartkowski. Kinda depends on who they play I think.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Ninja edit.
Injuries have definitely hampered Max's games played and production, and likely will continue ti over his career. No argument there and its a shame. I'm also not trying to put Max on or above Kessel's level. Clearly he is one notch below.
But I do think Max is a fucking steal/one of the best deals in the entire NHL at $4.5M for 5 more seasons. And Kessel will be 34 at the end of his deal. Max will only be 30.
Simon Belmont
Banned
That's why I said JVR would be a great player to compare him to
Actually they are really comparable. Age, games, points, cap hit.
Lone_Prodigy
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0%, finally. Would like to see Markstrom and callups play.
That's why I said JVR would be a great player to compare him to
Actually they are really comparable. Age, games, points, cap hit.
Threw him in:
Kessel's career goals (221) : assists (235) - 0.94
Pacioretty's career goals (103) : assists (104) - 0.99
JVR's career goals (94) : assists (95) - 0.99
Also if you take each player's career PPG and extrapolate it over an 82 game season:
Kessel (456 points in 581 games = 0.78 ppg) - 64 points
Pacioretty(207 points in 314 games = 0.66 ppg) - 54 points
JVR (189 points in 319 games = 0.59 ppg) - 49 points
Contracts:
Kessel: 8 x $8m
Pacioretty: 5 x $4.5m
JVR: 5 x $4.25m
So Patches gets 5 more points a season than JVR and is worth $0.25M more. Kessel gets 10 more points than Pacioretty and is worth $3.5M more.
"No structural damage" to his shoulder is now the official line, apparently.
Simon Belmont
Banned
To be fair, you should be comparing it against the 5.5(?) Kessel was making as an RFA
Perhaps so.......but all 3 are within 2 years of eachother and making $40M, $22.5M, and $21.25M each over the next 5 years.
All of this is to say.....Kessel really needs to keep his production up.
Simon Belmont
Banned
I think he will. He doesn't play in the areas you get injured in lol
Kessel has been a point a game player for 3 seasons now and just entering his prime, there's no question that he can keep it up for at least the next 4-5 years, who knows after that.
That's good but pretty vague. Makes it seem like it's still kinda serious
I'm now sick of the word serious
Thanks for the links though. Way more reassuring
KingHenrik30
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Yeah not out of the woods yet with him but at least that's something
He did?
Unless I missed something, I remember him saying something along the line that Murray just became a perfect fit for Boston but that was hardly justifying his hit.
That same article by Brooks also says that McDonagh is out indefinitely. I'm just going to assume/hope he actually does mean "indefinitely" as in "no defined timeline yet," as opposed to a Chris Kreider "indefinitely" meaning "see you next season sometime."
McDonagh was still being looked at by the trainers long after the media had already left the locker room last night, and he left the arena with his arm in a sling, so it can't be too good either. Hopefully it's just a really bad bruise that simply needs a few days to heal up.
Fata1moose
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At least he and Kane will be back for game 1, hope Duchene is too.
He is just a troll poster, not much substance. That statement does nothing more than misdirect the blame and bait.
Is that precautionary, or the time table we're looking at?
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