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NHL October 2014 |OT| Leafs Suck, And Then You Die

Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
If he is incarcerated for a long period of time how does that affect the Kings cap? That would leave a pretty big hole on their D line too.
 

Acid08

Banned
Fuck Voynov. Piece of shit.

NHL doesn't actually care, they just don't want to be caught up in a shitstorm like the NFL was.
 

keezy

Member
Person I'm going up against has Voynov in their lineup as a defencemen. Hopefully they don't read the news. They already have a few DTD and IR people in their lineup.
 
Maybe it's only a Canadian thing, but if a cop is suspected of wrongdoing (suspect shot, they do something off-duty, etc.) they are suspended from active duty (either given a desk job or off work entirely) with pay.
No I know. It's just a terrible comparison. Police can't afford to put a guy to work if he's facing a serious charge because it can undermine anything that officer touches during that time if he's found guilty. They also have to protect the public from that sort of thing.

We're talking about pampered, overpaid millionaires here. Ones that have a job that is ultimately meaningless. It's a bad comparison.
 
California Penal Code section 273.5

273.5. (a) Any person who willfully inflicts corporal injury
resulting in a traumatic condition upon a victim described in
subdivision (b) is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction thereof
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three,
or four years, or in a county jail for not more than one year, or by
a fine of up to six thousand dollars ($6,000) or by both that fine
and imprisonment.
(b) Subdivision (a) shall apply if the victim is or was one or
more of the following:
(1) The offender's spouse or former spouse.
(2) The offender's cohabitant or former cohabitant.
(3) The offender's fiancé or fiancée, or someone with whom the
offender has, or previously had, an engagement or dating
relationship, as defined in paragraph (10) of subdivision (f) of
Section 243.
(4) The mother or father of the offender's child.
(c) Holding oneself out to be the husband or wife of the person
with whom one is cohabiting is not necessary to constitute
cohabitation as the term is used in this section.
(d) As used in this section, "traumatic condition" means a
condition of the body, such as a wound, or external or internal
injury, including, but not limited to, injury as a result of
strangulation or suffocation, whether of a minor or serious nature,
caused by a physical force. For purposes of this section,
"strangulation" and "suffocation" include impeding the normal
breathing or circulation of the blood of a person by applying
pressure on the throat or neck.
(e) For the purpose of this section, a person shall be considered
the father or mother of another person's child if the alleged male
parent is presumed the natural father under Sections 7611 and 7612 of
the Family Code.
(f) (1) Any person convicted of violating this section for acts
occurring within seven years of a previous conviction under
subdivision (a), or subdivision (d) of Section 243, or Section 243.4,
244, 244.5, or 245, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county
jail for not more than one year, or by imprisonment in the state
prison for two, four, or five years, or by both imprisonment and a
fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(2) Any person convicted of a violation of this section for acts
occurring within seven years of a previous conviction under
subdivision (e) of Section 243 shall be punished by imprisonment in
the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail
for not more than one year, or by a fine of up to ten thousand
dollars ($10,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.
(g) If probation is granted to any person convicted under
subdivision (a), the court shall impose probation consistent with the
provisions of Section 1203.097.
(h) If probation is granted, or the execution or imposition of a
sentence is suspended, for any defendant convicted under subdivision
(a) who has been convicted of any prior offense specified in
subdivision (f), the court shall impose one of the following
conditions of probation:
(1) If the defendant has suffered one prior conviction within the
previous seven years for a violation of any offense specified in
subdivision (f), it shall be a condition thereof, in addition to the
provisions contained in Section 1203.097, that he or she be
imprisoned in a county jail for not less than 15 days.
(2) If the defendant has suffered two or more prior convictions
within the previous seven years for a violation of any offense
specified in subdivision (f), it shall be a condition of probation,
in addition to the provisions contained in Section 1203.097, that he
or she be imprisoned in a county jail for not less than 60 days.
(3) The court, upon a showing of good cause, may find that the
mandatory imprisonment required by this subdivision shall not be
imposed and shall state on the record its reasons for finding good
cause.
(i) If probation is granted upon conviction of a violation of
subdivision (a), the conditions of probation may include, consistent
with the terms of probation imposed pursuant to Section 1203.097, in
lieu of a fine, one or both of the following requirements:
(1) That the defendant make payments to a battered women's
shelter, up to a maximum of five thousand dollars ($5,000), pursuant
to Section 1203.097.
(2) (A) That the defendant reimburse the victim for reasonable
costs of counseling and other reasonable expenses that the court
finds are the direct result of the defendant's offense.
(B) For any order to pay a fine, make payments to a battered women'
s shelter, or pay restitution as a condition of probation under this
subdivision, the court shall make a determination of the defendant's
ability to pay. In no event shall any order to make payments to a
battered women's shelter be made if it would impair the ability of
the defendant to pay direct restitution to the victim or
court-ordered child support. If the injury to a married person is
caused in whole or in part by the criminal acts of his or her spouse
in violation of this section, the community property may not be used
to discharge the liability of the offending spouse for restitution to
the injured spouse, required by Section 1203.04, as operative on or
before August 2, 1995, or Section 1202.4, or to a shelter for costs
with regard to the injured spouse and dependents, required by this
section, until all separate property of the offending spouse is
exhausted.
(j) Upon conviction under subdivision (a), the sentencing court
shall also consider issuing an order restraining the defendant from
any contact with the victim, which may be valid for up to 10 years,
as determined by the court. It is the intent of the Legislature that
the length of any restraining order be based upon the seriousness of
the facts before the court, the probability of future violations, and
the safety of the victim and his or her immediate family. This
protective order may be issued by the court whether the defendant is
sentenced to state prison, county jail, or if imposition of sentence
is suspended and the defendant is placed on probation.
(k) If a peace officer makes an arrest for a violation of this
section, the peace officer is not required to inform the victim of
his or her right to make a citizen's arrest pursuant to subdivision
(b) of Section 836.
 

zroid

Banned
Supposing the Kings wanted to terminate the contract with Voynov, would the CBA allow them to simply burn it under these circumstances? Or would they still have to do a standard buyout.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Supposing the Kings wanted to terminate the contract with Voynov, would the CBA allow them to simply burn it under these circumstances? Or would they still have to do a standard buyout.

They may be able to use $125 waivers (unconditional) for contract termination if he ends up in jail
 

manfestival

Member
As long as he stays healthy, yeah. He looks really driven this year.

I was there for his hat trick the other night. I took my nephew to his first hockey game. Turned out way better than i could have imagined. Especially considering the canadiens being 3-0 and how they snuffed us last season.
 

Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
If they didn't have that in place, some team could send an overpaid player out to goon in up in an attempt to free up cap space.
Yea, the policy makes sense, it's just a tough position for the Kings if they're unable to separate themselves from his contract if he ends up spending serious time in prison.
 

zroid

Banned
Clause 14. The Club may also terminate this SPC upon written notice to the Player (but only after obtaining Waivers from all other Clubs) if the Player shall at anytime:

(a) fail, refuse, or neglect to obey the Club's rules governing training and conduct of Players, if such failure, refusal or neglect should constitute a material breach of this SPC.

(b) fail, refuse or neglect to render his services hereunder or in any other manner materially breach this SPC.

In the event of termination under subsection (a) or (b) the Player shall only be entitled to compensation due to him to the earlier of the date such notice is delivered to him or the date of the mailing of such notice to his address as set out below his signature hereto.

I guess a team could argue criminal action is a breach of the SPC regarding player conduct?
 

Razorskin

----- ------
I don't expect LA having any cap troubles from this if he's found guilty.


Christ, I need to stop reading that Halo patch thread, it's ridiculous.
 

Heretic

Member
I don't expect LA having any cap troubles from this if he's found guilty.


Christ, I need to stop reading that Halo patch thread, it's ridiculous.

It's getting good in there! Experts and everything!!

"I have degrees in Marketing and Interpersonal Communications along with a Minor in Psychology. I'm quite familiar with PR statements, how to write them and how to interpret them. It is always interesting and revealing to see first hand how effective this tactic is with the average layperson however.

Edit; Spoiler alert FordGTGuy; The game is not complete and cannot be pressed in time for the Holidays. This is why it is not a possibility this year."
 
I'll say this about Halo, I am mad jealous of how well that franchise gets treated. It helps that so many people care about it obviously, but I would fucking kill for something like the MCC for Tribes. Except it would only have two games on it cause there are only two Tribes games so.
 

Curufinwe

Member
Yea, the policy makes sense, it's just a tough position for the Kings if they're unable to separate themselves from his contract if he ends up spending serious time in prison.

If he gets convicted and goes to prison they should be allowed to cancel the contract with no cap penalty.
 
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