Can't believe they drag it out, actually go to arbitration and then cave in lol. What was the entire point of that? They told an arbitrator all his flaws and why he's not worth that money and then a few hours later they sign him. Good for Habs nation even though they did this half assed backwards.
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NHL Off-Season 2014 |OT| - O stands for Overhaul
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At my cousin's wedding in Ottawa.
My aunt decided we should all stay in the same hotel so the rooms were booked together. All I knew was the address and the name "Residence and Conference Centre". Conference centre, eh... That sounds nice. Two bedroom suite? Even better.
Just got here...
... And it's a God Damn student dorm. ALGONQUIN COLLEGE Residence and Conference Centre.
My aunt decided we should all stay in the same hotel so the rooms were booked together. All I knew was the address and the name "Residence and Conference Centre". Conference centre, eh... That sounds nice. Two bedroom suite? Even better.
Just got here...
... And it's a God Damn student dorm. ALGONQUIN COLLEGE Residence and Conference Centre.
Bergevin has been a tough negotiator his entire tenure here, seems like he thought that PK & Meehan would cave to his final 8 year offer yesterday. After the meeting, he knew he had no choice but to give him what he wanted.
:lol :lol at least school is still out
I don't see this as "caving in", they wanted Subban long-term. By all accounts, Subban's camp was looking around 8-8.5 mil for a short deal (one that would see Subban be a UFA, so like 2-3 years). The Habs wanted a long-term commitment, which means they had to pony up more. The way the league's going, his 9mil contract will be on par for the course for big-named players. Hell, look at how many players are in the 7-8 mil range that aren't as talented.
Welcome to Ottawa! Sucks you're at Algonquin, that area's kind of a drag.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
News was the Habs made an 8 year offer before arbitration and were turned down, most likely due to the fact the money was far less, so yes in the end they did cave. Subban said all along he wanted to commit to the Habs long term. They got it done, but it should have been handled way better than this.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
Damn, Ducks can't afford that $9m a year.
I bet Toronto can though. Subban for Gardiner straight up
I bet Toronto can though. Subban for Gardiner straight up
His conference call has been rescheduled until 6 pm.
Hopefully this contract marks the beginning of a new period with Therrien. You can't not use your $9 M player like he used to and he can't bench him anymore either. Time for this team to be handed over to him and for him to be given the responsibility he should have been given before all this crap happened.
Hopefully this contract marks the beginning of a new period with Therrien. You can't not use your $9 M player like he used to and he can't bench him anymore either. Time for this team to be handed over to him and for him to be given the responsibility he should have been given before all this crap happened.
apocalidiot
Banned
I agree it should've been handled better. They should've never let it get to the arbitration hearing.
ZeroGravity
Member
$5.95 million AAV for Bishop with an NMC. Hopefully he lives up to what he did last year.
2 years is curious. Think it has something to do with Vasilevskiy coming up soon?
ZeroGravity
Member
Yeah, gives them flexibility. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Vasi took the job before the end of that deal.
Most of the time these long ass mega contracts end in tears, but I actually have a good feeling about PK's for 2 reasons:
- he hasn't peaked yet. He's still getting better and I don't think he'll plateau for another few years
- he's so goddamn egotistical, and in this case that's a good thing. He's a guy who wants to win and probably wants his number in the rafters. I don't see him resting on laurels or coasting now
Having said all that, it's nuts that Subban is now the highest paid Habs ever.......he's also the highest paid d-man ever now too, isn't he?
- he hasn't peaked yet. He's still getting better and I don't think he'll plateau for another few years
- he's so goddamn egotistical, and in this case that's a good thing. He's a guy who wants to win and probably wants his number in the rafters. I don't see him resting on laurels or coasting now
Having said all that, it's nuts that Subban is now the highest paid Habs ever.......he's also the highest paid d-man ever now too, isn't he?
Freyjadour
Member
Good for Ben. That trade still haunts, and I'd feel better running Bishop / Allen, but it's better than it used to be.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Reminds me of Bobrovsky's deal: do well one year, get a shorter extension with more AAV to prove it wasn't a fluke.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Dastardly
So surreal... I was just talking to him last night. And now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pDTfCKjiA
Some quotes from Subban's conference call:
On Bergevin:
On Molson:
PK brought up his relationship with Molson quite a few times, and mentioned he had many conversations with him. Feels like Molson may have stepped in after the arbitration and forced Bergevin's hand a bit. He also made a point at making it clear there are no hard feelings and that this never went sour regardless of how drawn out it was.
On Bergevin:
On Molson:
PK brought up his relationship with Molson quite a few times, and mentioned he had many conversations with him. Feels like Molson may have stepped in after the arbitration and forced Bergevin's hand a bit. He also made a point at making it clear there are no hard feelings and that this never went sour regardless of how drawn out it was.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Wow, those quotes provide a lot of insight into what happened at the negotiations.
It's not an over payment at all. New era of contract, everyone trying to use Weber and Doughty etc doesn't work.
That breakaway goal against the Bruins in the playoffs is legitimately one of the greatest hockey moments for me personally.
That breakaway goal against the Bruins in the playoffs is legitimately one of the greatest hockey moments for me personally.
He's making more than Crosby. I know the deal was signed in a different "era", but still.
If I never see another Habs game in person again, I can still always say I was at that game. I still remember my buddy beside me screaming like he'd been shot at Eller to pass the puck to PK :lol
His cap hit is higher than Corsby but he's not making more money than him. Also Crosby is signed for 12 years, and signed in a different period of contracts and is at a different position. You can't compare the contracts. Even if you believe he's being overpaid now, he'll be underpaid by year 3-4 with the way the cap is going up.
That's a pretty incredible moment to have been at. I lost my shit and made a scene when I watched it, but I would have given anything to have been there. At the BC, playoffs, against the B's and it's PK that gets a breakaway goal. Amazing moment.
His AAV is higher than Crosby's, it's just that Crosby has a front loaded contract. I'm just saying, I love the guy and glad he's ours for presumably his career now, but I think the reality is you have to pay yopur guys like this or they'll drag you to UFA and get it somewheres else.
And yes, the Bell Centre fucking EXPLODED at that. Most electric sporting moment Ive witnessed.
And yes, the Bell Centre fucking EXPLODED at that. Most electric sporting moment Ive witnessed.
ZeroGravity
Member
Good guy Bishop, no drama here.
Unhandled Exception
Member
$9 million is a lot of money. I wonder how much this has an effect on getting a deal done with Barrie, he's still got a whole lot to prove. I really hope he doesn't spend much time around O'Reilly. :|
I expect it'll either be PK as Captain or they'll go without a C this year and give it to him next year. Pleks is a possibility, but I'm not sure he A) wants the position and B) has the personality for it. Markov has turned down the captaincy before so I don't see him taking it now.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
btw, the Mighty Ducks is on Netflix now.
I think D2 is on as well but I'm not sure. Will check after I'm finished watching the Triple Deke.
I think D2 is on as well but I'm not sure. Will check after I'm finished watching the Triple Deke.
Prust has done a few interviews and made it sound like a Captain will be chosen. I agree with the Pleks stuff, and I know both him and Markov prefer not to have that spot light on them. PK really is the best option right now, and after giving him this contract, Bergevin & co should be confident enough to hand him the C.
TrueGrime
Member
Both are on there right now! Thanks.
SuperSonic1305
Member
It's up to Tavares and Stamkos now.
StylesClash
Member
I didn't know St Louis drafted bishop...shit we should have kept him. Who did they end up getting for him?
Giroux makes $3m more than Streit. Players that score lots of points will get their money.
Guardians of the galaxy... Just watched it.
After it was finished I regretted not walking out. It had absolutely no plot. Pretty with some charming moments ... Easily the worst movie Marvel Studios has made.
I will have to revisit the movie at a later date to see if it grows on me. The movie doesn't really show you anything and reverts to one sentence explanations as the origins to every character and entity in the movie. Very very little character development.
Sigh...
After it was finished I regretted not walking out. It had absolutely no plot. Pretty with some charming moments ... Easily the worst movie Marvel Studios has made.
I will have to revisit the movie at a later date to see if it grows on me. The movie doesn't really show you anything and reverts to one sentence explanations as the origins to every character and entity in the movie. Very very little character development.
Sigh...
Unhandled Exception
Member
This is pretty much how I feel about most movies anymore.
I just call it as it is. I was excited to see it since it was announced. I don't go to theatres alone or go on opening weekends, but for this i made an exception.
It was a turd and I LOVED all the previous marvel movies.
Unhandled Exception
Member
I get dragged to the movies I see 90% of the time but it has been a solid year. Only a few I wish I hadn't seen.