I wonder how scouts judge how much of that is due to Ehlers or for that matter how much players benefit from playing with another really good player on their line.
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I wonder how scouts judge how much of that is due to Ehlers or for that matter how much players benefit from playing with another really good player on their line.
:lol
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My bracket agrees with all of what happened tonight. 4 for 4 on day one.
No classes this week so I have nothing to do but watch hackey lol.
Of course he's still an important player. But he's not what he was a few years back. I think his two way game, which has always been underrated, is starting to slip.
This is part of the Sharks problem. Read between the lines of the comments from yesterday. We've got Logan Couture ready to lead this team through his prime, but we're not willing to let him because Jumbo is here. If Joe wants to stay here, he should. But my vote right now would be to keep McLellan and give Couture the C. Joe can get in line or not--his call.
Speaking of jobs, here's the view from the break room in our new office:
Niiiice. And yeah holy shit you're close to my office now, about a block. Is that actually in the new Alt hotel building or on the other side of Donald like where MEC is? I assumed the Alt isn't open yet but some levels could be, I heard the lobby is done.
Yep. It's in the same building as the ALT. We're in the office on the second floor where the condos are going in. I can see the MEC logo from my desk. I don't think the ALT is open, though. It's still a bit of a construction zone in the hallway outside our office. Guys were drilling stuff in the washrooms while I was in there.
I'm on my break/lunch.
I live down the street on Donald, and my wife and I were driving past it yesterday and saw the construction which led to us debating whether or not any tenants had moved in. So weird I can confirm it with her now lol.
Based on the renders I thought that building was going to look awful, but the actual texture of the stone slabs looks not bad. It's not a gorgeous building or anything and I'm not crazy about that yellow accent thing but the rest looks kinda cool now. We'll see when the facade is 100% I guess
awful. I won't stand for this. it's sad when even the fans are turning on Jumbo, as if Doug Wilson's asshattery wasn't bad enough.
If his defensive game has slipped then so has everyone else's because his CA/60 was the lowest of anyone on the team this season.
his offensive game was also the best of anyone on the Sharks this year (measured by CF/60)... by an even wider margin. He's simultaneously the best Shark at suppressing shots AND creating shots. That's comparable to Bergeron and Toews in terms of two-way effectiveness.
His On-Ice Sh% was stupidly low this year (6.75%) compared to his career average and in spite of that his Pts/60 was the 4th highest on the team, indicative of how effective he is. Most years it has been over 9% (it only dipped to 8% in 2011-2012). Expect that to rebound next year.
Thornton is old as fuck and he's still one of the best players in the NHL. Fuck "leadership" and all that other bullshit. He's awesome, and that's all that matters.
<3 zroid. I love your use of analytics, and you're 100% correct about Thornton. The only legit reason I can think of for Sharks fans to want to get rid of him vs the GM/coach is that he's old enough that he'll be gone in a couple of years anyway.
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Sitting in an old-folks home, taking your cocktail of pills doesn't constitute a job, calder.
No.
#jealous
Aww.
I'd say I'll subcontract you to come take my job for a couple of hours but I realized 80% of what I've done today is surf the internet so maybe I should just dry my tears at being sleepy and soldier on through.
Aww.
I'd say I'll subcontract you to come take my job for a couple of hours but I realized 80% of what I've done today is surf the internet so maybe I should just dry my tears at being sleepy and soldier on through.
You can subcontract me to surf the web for you so you can work! lol
Being laid off sucks.
You don't need to convince me that Jumbo is still really good. But he's not literally carrying the offense anymore. And I think he's gotten himself in the way of the team getting over its problems now. I want him to be a Shark next season, but not at the expense of the team's overall success.
The two best players on the team gave totally different vibes yesterday. Jumbo suggests that McLellan isn't wanted by the team. Couture says the players are the problem. Pretty easy to see where the locker room divide is.
Speaking of jobs, here's the view from the break room in our new office:
Well dang!
Listen. Forget about the locker room crap; it's meaningless. When teams lose they have locker room problems. When they win everything is rosy.
The only reason the Sharks missed the playoffs this year is because Wilson made a series of bad decisions in the offseason. To a large extent Thornton does still carry the offence. Couture is good but he's just not on that level, frankly.
I don't know about TMac, he's been a great coach for years but this season was a little puzzling. He's probably getting fired regardless so it doesn't matter. Believe it or not the Sharks aren't really far off from returning to "contender" status, and if nothing else this season gave some of the young guys a chance to develop a bit more. I'm not sure what's going to happen next season but I guarantee trading Jumbo is not a solution to anything.
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Aww.
I'd say I'll subcontract you to come take my job for a couple of hours but I realized 80% of what I've done today is surf the internet so maybe I should just dry my tears at being sleepy and soldier on through.
That ain't workin'.
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I've been playing MKX all day cause that's just what you do
Speaking of jobs, here's the view from the break room in our new office:
2/10 would not admire.
Apparently Nylander and Marner played on the same line together 8-9 years ago at some tourney
reunite the boys!
I'm still feeling the withdrawals so I'm just watching the exit press conference from JD and Jarmo and then I'm sure I'll watch the Todd Richards one. 6 months...
Oh, and I can't wait for Oliver Bjorkstrand to get his chance
Oh, and I can't wait for Oliver Bjorkstrand to get his chance
no need to be nervous
Toronto is winning it anyway
I'll be happy if we just remain 4th :/
That's a pretty high score from you.
I can't hate on brick architecture.
Dastardly Jerks
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lol if Pavs becomes the next Cheechoo.
This would be terrible.
Kessel will make sure this won't happen in Toronto next season.
Cheech almost scored 30 goals playing with Scott Thornton and Mike Ricci in 03-04. He was always a great goal scorer but Thornton just elevated him. Then injuries ruined his career.
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His face looks disgusted to be his face