Speaking of which.... Look what I dug up
(Solo, in particular, went insane)
Hey guys what's happening I just got....
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Guys don't ever complain about your GMs, because there's no way they're worse then Gauthier.
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NHL Smarch 2015 |OT| Toronto is tanking on purpose this time.
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Speaking of which.... Look what I dug up
(Solo, in particular, went insane)
No doubt Price is in the groove and puts the Habs to the next level, but it's still a good team game by Montreal and I'm still believing that a goaltender is only as good as the team in front of him.
Is Talbot as good as Lundqvist? Or is it the team in front of him? Put Price on the Oilers and you won't see the same goaltending results.
Is Talbot as good as Lundqvist? Or is it the team in front of him? Put Price on the Oilers and you won't see the same goaltending results.
Ain't even gonna call out any Habs fans here. They were still high off Halak's playoff performance. Even I was surprised the Habs traded him, I was thinking he'd at least battle with Price for the #1 the following season.
I guess it turned out alright anyway. Price ended up being the goaltender the Habs were hoping for him to be.
Though, Razorskin was correct: Gauthier was a terrible GM.
Bonus:
Kuro keeping it real.
I guess it turned out alright anyway. Price ended up being the goaltender the Habs were hoping for him to be.
Though, Razorskin was correct: Gauthier was a terrible GM.
Bonus:
Kuro keeping it real.
To be fair to Habs fans, the rest of the league was laughing at the decision to trade Halak as well. In the end, the Habs that got the franchise goaltender and easily made the right decision and it's Habs fans reaping the rewards now.
I wasn't. Not after he handily lost a goaltending duel against Michael Leighton.
Well... neither was I (for once)
I've always been a huge Price fan, I was hoping he would fall to the Sens in the draft.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Well, yes it would be expected that a team's fans would be the most informed and the most devoted to a particular player's potential.
dr.rocktopus
Banned
you could probably write a book with all the dumb shit almost all of us have said in hindsight :lol
I can live with myself knowing that I've definitely said less dumb shit than Leafs' management over the years (not a high bar, I know)
It's part of following sports, everyone has an angle. Not really wrong or right at the time, just opinions.
I just keep my posts to KESSELELELELELEL to avoid this
Yeah that's part of why I now try to take an analytics based approach whenever possible, not just because I think it's a more accurate tool, but I don't trust myself to not be super biased from the "eye test". That's not to say you can't introduce bias in statistical analyses, but it's easier to detect and root out.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
I'm going to admit this now. This is my Favourite Habs Roster Since the 1993 team. I like everyone on this team.
I think a lot of Habs fans were more pissed about the return than anything else at that point. I didn't want either of them to leave, but I was upset at the return at the time too. Seemed low considering what he had just accomplished.Speaking of which.... Look what I dug up
(Solo, in particular, went insane)
This isn't true at all. Stats show Price faces some of the highest amount of shots and quality of shots. In terms of possession Montreal has been near Edmonton most of the season.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Lines against Nashville
Pacioretty Desharnais Parenteau
Gallagher Plekanec Galchenyuk
Smith-Pelly Eller De La Rose
Prust Malhotra/Mitchell
Flynn
Subban Markov
Emelin Petry
Beaulieu Pateryn
Gonchar-Weaver
Pacioretty Desharnais Parenteau
Gallagher Plekanec Galchenyuk
Smith-Pelly Eller De La Rose
Prust Malhotra/Mitchell
Flynn
Subban Markov
Emelin Petry
Beaulieu Pateryn
Gonchar-Weaver
lol @ "gayney" tucked away in there. Shit that would get you perma'd nowadays
Consider the Halak/Eller trade. Eller immediately became a huge focal point, largely because Habs fans desperately wanted to be rewarded for losing Halak.
Eh that's not how fans work. They simply believe in the players they need to. Faith investments are always made. Sometimes their faith is rewarded, but just as often it really isn't.Well, yes it would be expected that a team's fans would be the most informed and the most devoted to a particular player's potential.
Consider the Halak/Eller trade. Eller immediately became a huge focal point, largely because Habs fans desperately wanted to be rewarded for losing Halak.
I agree with this for the most part, but Price's performance and accomplishments prior to entering the league showed he was a special talent. For anyone who's paid attention to him has known he's always had the skill set, it was just his maturity that was lacking.
Having been too busy to keep up with the media circus this season, it's interesting to see the shift in perception about Dreger around here.
I already don't have high opinion on Bob McKenzie outside of the information he provides, but I never really liked Dreger either outside of the same info he relays.
I really like McKenzie's analysis (he's easily the best regular commentator on either Sportsnet or TSN), so it was pretty disappointing for me to hear of your bad personal experience with him.
Dreger is just a stooge
What did McKenzie do? Did he insult the manifesto?
ShinRPGamer
Member
Pretty cool chart: percentage odds of first round playoff matchups as of right now: (Data from: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html)
PLEASE BE THE FLAMES AND NOT THE QUEENS OH GOD
Montreal-Wings would be glorious
So Winnipeg will likely face Anaheim or St. Louis in the first round at this rate? I think we have a decent chance at beating either of those two teams.
I will be interested to see how he fares once Nonis is fired in a couple months
Nonis had better be fired in a couple months
I really like McKenzie's analysis (he's easily the best regular commentator on either Sportsnet or TSN), so it was pretty disappointing for me to hear of your bad personal experience with him.
Dreger is just a stooge
I don't hate him on air, since he goes straight to the point with his information. He's the most reliable insider on TSN, I think. I'd easily trust him over Dreger or Ward - not that their information have really contradicted (I think it was Bob who broke the Iginla to Pens vs. Ward with Boston). Ward's hilarious though.
On top of my personal experience with him, I was close to just unfollowing the guy on Twitter because he can be a real bitch on it when people call him out or replied negatively to anything he said.
Met him in person a couple of times, came off as really stuck up and pompous when we interacted.
Of course they're not interchangeable. Price is by far the best goaltender in the league right now. Scrivens is a (censored to be polite).
Goaltending fluctuates so much from year to year. Pre-season had Rask the best goaltender. Boston has a off year and he doesn't look so good anymore. His fault or the team's fault?
No doubt, Price is great (right now). Fully worthy of the Vezina and Hart. I've seen worshipers saying Montreal doesn't make the playoffs without him. I'm willing to give the team a little more credit than that. They're not just riding on the Price coattails and actually have a lot to do with his success.
Oh wow.
On the topic of Dreger he was knocked down a few pegs in my books when he was on Dave Naylor several weeks ago and threw some stupid jabs at kessel.
That's basically how I feel. It's just been interesting to see.
It makes me so gosh darn (not swearing for clydefrog) upset!
My experience with sports media personalities:
Bob - Well, you know.
Kypreos - I was sitting on a bench and he was beside me talking on his phone, and we made eye contact. Then he started pacing back and forth closer to me, still on his phone and looking at me. It was an odd moment.
Cybulski - We talked quick, seemed like a chill dude.
Healy - Something of a people's champ. He'll take the slap on the arm or the random handshake out of nowhere. Another friend of mine says he's also a nice guy. I'd like to think he's just doing that to keep up appearances, but I can't judge since we didn't really talk.
Bob - Well, you know.
Kypreos - I was sitting on a bench and he was beside me talking on his phone, and we made eye contact. Then he started pacing back and forth closer to me, still on his phone and looking at me. It was an odd moment.
Cybulski - We talked quick, seemed like a chill dude.
Healy - Something of a people's champ. He'll take the slap on the arm or the random handshake out of nowhere. Another friend of mine says he's also a nice guy. I'd like to think he's just doing that to keep up appearances, but I can't judge since we didn't really talk.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Kings are going to sneak in.
I'm back like Mike Richards.
I'm back like Mike Richards.
You suck just like Mike Richards too.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Just showing that Montreal is hardly a good defensive team, Therrien is getting a lot of credit for doing nothing really. His system consists of "chip the puck off the boards" as much as possible. Outside of Pacioretty, there's no real scoring either, even Eller, who has gone on a point streak recently, is doing it with help from Pacioretty, whom he almost never plays with, over his regular linemates.
To your second point, those people are talking about replacing Price with a "league average" goaltender. I think the league average save percentage right now is .914, and if Montreal had a goalie putting up those numbers they would have given up an extra 27 goals or something, and considering the number of one-goal wins they've had, they'd miss out on a bunch of points.
ShinRPGamer
Member
No they won't.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Are you prepared (spiritually, emotionally, psychologically) for the day in June when Shanahan gives him a 2 year extension?
TheKaeptain
Banned
I'm in love with a girl and I don't know how she feels about me. Hopefully this weekend goes as planned.
Job searching sucks.
My father got pulled off of chemo and his kidneys are giving out. Sucks but expect.
Kings might miss the playoffs.
Welcome back!
Unfortunately, since youve been gone, no new Kings fans have popped up. Unfortunately again, the Ducks group here is the same. Calamari will probably quote this and mention something about domestic violence.
CreeperBlocks is now known as Habs Cat.
RC (the Tom Selleck freak) is now happy because the Canucks beat the Kings one time.
Quick is soviet.
Kave Man is nearly good enough at hockey now to play for the Leafs.
:lol
TheKaeptain
Banned
Hey you're back.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Put me on the ambivalent Bob train and the annoyed go to fucking hell Darren train.
Darren must like sucking on Nonis' balls or something. Dude can't be objective about his distant cousin.
Bob is informative, BUT the thing that irritates me about him is that he is balanced to the point where he won't say very much at times and stays safe. He COULD be traded, but I wouldn't be surprised if management changes their mind. The Leafs COULD sign him, but look to other teams to have high interest as well. Toronto is a prime destination; however, keep in mind the other teams are blah blah blah.
Darren must like sucking on Nonis' balls or something. Dude can't be objective about his distant cousin.
Bob is informative, BUT the thing that irritates me about him is that he is balanced to the point where he won't say very much at times and stays safe. He COULD be traded, but I wouldn't be surprised if management changes their mind. The Leafs COULD sign him, but look to other teams to have high interest as well. Toronto is a prime destination; however, keep in mind the other teams are blah blah blah.
Eh, let him extend him. He seems to be relegated to another assistant GM anyways with Shanahan calling the shots. If everything is by committee as they say, I don't see the analytics part of management agreeing with another Clarkson signing. He's there for his contacts and his relationships with other GMs in the league.
MOTHERFUCK!