-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
- Thread starter BRSxIgnition
- Start date
AHA-Lambda
Member
Just completed Ending C.
I think I have more questions now? =/
I think I have more questions now? =/
Only by upgrading. The bald dude sitting in a chair to Anemone's right has the Upgrade Weapons option in his merchant menu.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Of course there's the spoiler thread for all sorts of answers. But once you've beaten everything, go to the menu->Intel->Archives->Machine Research Report and read that.
Ending A is basically the end of the first act.
Route B reveals some things, but you just need to keep on going
RedlineRonin
Member
What's the beef with Hard? Is it not hard enough?
I played through A on normal and it was pretty much a breeze so I was planning to play B on through the end on Hard. Is that still not hard enough?
The damage level is okay but the problem is you eventually out level all the enemies unless you're only doing the minimum amount of exp grinding so even if they do tons of extra damage it won't penetrate your level 80 defenses.
RedlineRonin
Member
Efffff. That's why I felt like normal was too easy. i wasn't necessarily griding per se, but I did as much side content as i could find, and even took on some of the harder enemies 15-20 levels below them, so i feel like I might be overleveled for B already anyway.
is there a setting above Hard?
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Some minor spoiler about some of the locals but there were some areas of this game that I feel were really underutilized.
I find myself disappointed by the
. The lead up to it is great and it's so impressive looking that I found myself really disappointed when I realized the whole thing was a 2D segment. I would have greatly preferred exploring it as a traditional 3D map.
I love the idea of the
but it's so short. It's basically a tiny little nook. You could have a map the size of the
all about platforming on the tops of skyscrapers and dashing into skyscrapers that have flooded and running along the sides of buildings that have toppled over and jumping onto various aquatic vessels.
I guess this still wraps up into my main point that despite having put 50 hours into this game all I want is more.
The Forest, the Forest King's Castle, and the Flooded City. I feel like we could have spent a lot more time traversing the forest. It's a beautiful zone and the lush forest is a great change of pace from the ruined urban areas and the desert. They could have made a huge sprawling forest that you could just get lost in and I would have loved it.
I find myself disappointed by the
Forest King's Castle
I love the idea of the
Flooded City
Amusement Park
I guess this still wraps up into my main point that despite having put 50 hours into this game all I want is more.
Avenger54321
Member
Just finished the game with ending E with the Platinum Trophy, ugh, no game like this left me with wanting more in quite some time. Like this is a one of the few games that I devoted my free time to the most and now it's done, I'm just like:
It left a void in the feels
This game is definitely my GOTY, maybe even GOTG.
Well looks like it's time to move on to Persona 5.
It left a void in the feels
This game is definitely my GOTY, maybe even GOTG.
Well looks like it's time to move on to Persona 5.
Yes but it's 1hp and that's hard in a way most people don't enjoy.
Dragon1893
Member
Wow, that's awesome. So deserved, it's amazing.
I think the game's difficulty settings are at odds with the health system. It's way too easy to heal in the game, so unless you're getting 1 shot it's incredibly hard to die. So of course hard mode puts a ton of one hit kills in it to actually make it challenging, but it feels cheap.
I wish they would have put a cooldown on healing items, or did something that you couldn't just instantly heal soon as you get hit.
I wish they would have put a cooldown on healing items, or did something that you couldn't just instantly heal soon as you get hit.
Very good choice. I know what you mean about that void though. Once I finished Ending E I was like, "Well shit...now what?"Just finished the game with ending E with the Platinum Trophy, ugh, no game like this left me with wanting more in quite some time. Like this is a one of the few games that I devoted my free time to the most and now it's done, I'm just like:
It left a void in the feels
This game is definitely my GOTY, maybe even GOTG.
Well looks like it's time to move on to Persona 5.
RedlineRonin
Member
Yeah, that makes sense. especially with the dark souls-esque run back to get your shit mechanic, dying is kind of a pain at times.
I think this is spot on. I heal ~25% of health anytime something dies, so I'm virtually always at max health.
Just finished the game with ending E with the Platinum Trophy, ugh, no game like this left me with wanting more in quite some time. Like this is a one of the few games that I devoted my free time to the most and now it's done, I'm just like:
It left a void in the feels
This game is definitely my GOTY, maybe even GOTG.
Well looks like it's time to move on to Persona 5.
This is me...
P5 is pretty cool so far though
It's the result of the game basically being "open world on a budget" but, like most people in these forum threads, I think the whole is still more than the sum of its parts.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
oh shit ok
btw what's the deal with
Emil?
oh shit ok
btw what's the deal withI beat Route B and still haven't seen him aside from that one cutscene. I miss the dude.Emil?
He has a quest chain. Have to talk to him a few times at his store, then look at a Lunar Tear to start it I believe.
where the heckeroni is that my guy
also can I do it in Route C because I'll be really sad if I missed out
edit
the store I mean, I found a Lunar Tear in the Amusement Park and was like "o hey neat" but it didn't do anything
I think you need to stop him while he's near the Desert camp.
He'll give you the line about Lunar Tears. Then you can trigger the quest at the commercial facility. I haven't activated this questline yet though but this is what I read on the Wiki.
He'll give you the line about Lunar Tears. Then you can trigger the quest at the commercial facility. I haven't activated this questline yet though but this is what I read on the Wiki.
It's awful. They should have taken another note from Dark Souls and did an Estus type of system. You wouldn't be able to heal with 0 risk and you wouldn't have a million health items to burn through.
Or they should have done it Ys Origin/Oath style. No health items, and experience points gained are highly dependent on your level. So if you are even slightly over leveled you only get 1 exp per enemy killed that's close to your level. Health regenerates at save points and if you stand still.
The health system and game balance is definitely my biggest gripe with the game, it's what is holding it back from perfection.
Awful Falafel
Banned
Yeah, all the satisfying challenge I've gotten from this game after a while was from self imposed restrictions like no auto-heal or auto-item. On route C I've found going
great until the level gap makes it pointless again. Do you guys think a mod to tweak this stuff is likely to happen? Or does Square-Enix need to remove Denuvo or something?
Also while we're throwing around solutions I liked how FFXIII's XP cap per chapter made overleveling impossible and kept difficulty tightly controlled. The
proves the game already has granular divisions of game sections to work with to boot.
berserk mode
Also while we're throwing around solutions I liked how FFXIII's XP cap per chapter made overleveling impossible and kept difficulty tightly controlled. The
chapter select feature
They could have just left it up to the player to regulate their healing with plug-in chips - there's already options for regenerating health and healing by either doing damage or killing enemies. Removing the recovery items entirely and pointing the player towards those earlier on might be a more balanced solution.
Awful Falafel
Banned
Question about some late Route C stuff:
9S just freaked out after receiving a document learning that project Yorha was planned to be disposed of from the start or something like that, but the contents of the document are near identical to one he'd read earlier, but in that one he only focused on how it said that android black boxes are made from the same thing as machine cores. Is this like a bug or something that caused that to accidentally be in a different, earlier archive file or is there some weird explanation for this later?
Probably better direction.
Thanks!
So I have two random questions for my route B run:
1. So I didn't kill
2. There is a side mission that appears to be in
1. So I didn't kill
Adam and Eve in the Mother Ship as I wanted to hear what his speech was when it suddenly ended with a cut scene. Is that important at all?
2. There is a side mission that appears to be in
the area above where you fought the opera singer machine in the amusement park but I'm not sure how to get up there. Can you jump off the roller coaster again?
1. Don't think anything additional was said outside of what was in Route A.
2. It's in the basement, go to the right of the staircases. There should be an elevator.
2. It's in the basement, go to the right of the staircases. There should be an elevator.
Did it give you feel
Ahh ok cool. Question with this quest now that I have it.
I got the game working and beat it a couple times looking for bugs. What exactly am I supposed to be looking for?
Alright, so actually in the game proper after the prologue. Much better experience so far. However, the graphical fidelity and general jankiness (invisible walls, really?) are kind of off-putting. Feels like a mid-tier PS3 game, to be quite honest.
I'm still not seeing the hook everyone else is, but we shall see. Hopefully it keeps improving. Combat is fun, but I could really go for some more color. RPG systems seem interesting so far.
I'm still not seeing the hook everyone else is, but we shall see. Hopefully it keeps improving. Combat is fun, but I could really go for some more color. RPG systems seem interesting so far.