The japanese version is in this broken state for almost two weeks now. Speaking of, this issue is appearently not isolated to the english script, other languages, including japanese, can suffer from this glitch as well.
And there are a bunch of other physics and framerate related issues that can crop up, that weren't there before.
Interesting....that could explain also why to me at times the movement and combat felt a bit choppy that I don't remember the demo having when I tried it on PSN.
The million dollar question that no one knows the answer to lol, if the Japanese version with the same patch has had these exact issues for 2 weeks, why the hell would they patch the US version a day or so ago with the same broken patch??!!
Interesting....that could explain also why to me at times the movement and combat felt a bit choppy that I don't remember the demo having when I tried it on PSN.
The million dollar question that no one knows the answer to lol, if the Japanese version with the same patch has had these exact issues for 2 weeks, why the hell would they patch the US version a day or so ago with the same broken patch??!!
Backing up a bit to the start of the game: am I the only one who, seriously, got no vibrations at all during the "testing"?
I forgot all about it for a while because I figured it was a joke, but now I realized that after 12 hours I've never had any vibrations, period. I'm using a 360 controller if it matters.
Yo i've been combing both here and the spoiler thread but I can't find that picture of the stubby cosplay, if someone would be so kind to send it to me or repost it here
Yo i've been combing both here and the spoiler thread but I can't find that picture of the stubby cosplay, if someone would be so kind to send it to me or repost it here
Holy shit. For kicks and giggles I decided to see what the resale value on the Collector's Edition is now. It's selling for upwards of a $1,000. What the shit!? Even the figure alone is near $500.
The thirst is real. Glad I bought one (not selling though. 'tis MINE).
Ooo. The link to the written write up is a good read. The events surrounding the collapse of civilization, WCS, the Legion, and Red Eye leading up to the events of the original NieR are so unsettling. I'd love to see a Taro Yoko game set in this era.
It was supposed to be a game. They said they had enough material for two games. I think they never got the funding for it. At this point I suspect Taro has moved on from that particular story however I would not be surprised to see some of those story elements show up in future games.
It was supposed to be a game. They said they had enough material for two games. I think they never got the funding for it. At this point I suspect Taro has moved on from that particular story however I would not be surprised to see some of those story elements show up in future games.
Holy shit. For kicks and giggles I decided to see what the resale value on the Collector's Edition is now. It's selling for upwards of a $1,000. What the shit!? Even the figure alone is near $500.
The thirst is real. Glad I bought one (not selling though. 'tis MINE).
shit really went down, isn't it? I guess that 2 kids that popped at the end of Route B were the virus preparing to fuck shit up? Also where does such a thing comes from?
I guess 2B death didn't got me as much as some people because I really didn't care much about her, but it was very well done, Yoko Taro style.
Choose to play as A2 first, and her first dialogue with the pod was amazing lol
shit really went down, isn't it? I guess that 2 kids that popped at the end of Route B were the virus preparing to fuck shit up? Also where does such a thing comes from?
I guess 2B death didn't got me as much as some people because I really didn't care much about her, but it was very well done, Yoko Taro style.
Choose to play as A2 first, and her first dialogue with the pod was amazing lol
Didn't know you could choose again but that is my plan lol I like the small gameplay changes compared to 2B, and I expect great things with her and the pod lol
Holy shit. For kicks and giggles I decided to see what the resale value on the Collector's Edition is now. It's selling for upwards of a $1,000. What the shit!? Even the figure alone is near $500.
The thirst is real. Glad I bought one (not selling though. 'tis MINE).
Holy shit. For kicks and giggles I decided to see what the resale value on the Collector's Edition is now. It's selling for upwards of a $1,000. What the shit!? Even the figure alone is near $500.
The thirst is real. Glad I bought one (not selling though. 'tis MINE).
While I appreciated the narrative going into much more of a philosophical and psychological realm, abstraction and interpretation only take me so far. I think it's interesting to talk about the things that Taro brings up: the machine intelligence and evolution or whether there was anything clearly there or whether it was still within the overall spectrum of their design, the similarities between the androids and the machines and the questions of fate, memory and so forth, but ultimately there are no answers to those questions. For me, the strongest narrative moments in the game were the ones that hit the narratively emotional moments: Pascal's story, the Operators, Devola and Popola (their final moments with the vocal Song of the Ancients and subsequent story totally hit me) etc. Having said that, Playthrough B which was similar to New Game + in the original seemed less impactful (i.e. Simone and Adam/Eve vs. Roc, P-33, Hansel and Gretel) overall.
Probably best to bring this to the spoiler thread but
i think it's been made pretty clear that the machines grew beyond their original directive.
Also the game isn't about fate or memory, though i think they're pretty clear on those 2 subjects.
It really is more an exploration of how growing sentient beings seek to create societal structures, relationships, the good, the bad, and ultimately why we do it, and how we find our own meaning of existence in this ultimately meaningless world. Ending e would not have been as powerful otherwise.
Probably best to bring this to the spoiler thread but
i think it's been made pretty clear that the machines grew beyond their original directive.
Also the game isn't about fate or memory, though i think they're pretty clear on those 2 subjects.
It really is more an exploration of how growing sentient beings seek to create societal structures, relationships, the good, the bad, and ultimately why we do it, and how we find our own meaning of existence in this ultimately meaningless world. Ending e would not have been as powerful otherwise.
I think that Taro keeps it intentionally ambiguous. You get the feeling that the machines go beyond their directive say with Adam and Eve, and ending D specifically but then there's those reports of the machines growing in the same way, doing the same activities again even if they fail. They emulate behavior, which can seem seemingly complex even. They can build a society, or emulate a Kingdom without any real understanding of why or how. Or is it deeper? Maybe, maybe not. How do we not know that the actions towards the end of the game are still not within that directive? We don't. And while I agree about the interpretation of sentience and society and so forth, but is that still within a construct that's just based on emulation though. Again, what I would argue is that we can't be sure and we don't know and I think Taro is keeping things open. I don't think it's as open and shut as you claim it to be.
In terms of fate and memory, it's not a main point, but c'mon. It's Taro and the game as a whole is pretty damn layered. 2B in particular and her repeated fate with 9S in particular again is a point that is brought up throughout the course of its repeated playthroughs.
But yeah, this is probably best left for the spoiler thread.
Yeah, bring it over there. Always need more nier talk haha.
But still,
isn't it said that humanity is always doomed to repeat history?
Not that I really think that is the message really, but I do think that part of the themes is the cyclical nature of conflict. After all, the machine consciousness is said to be a better evolved version of humanity seeing that they have a collected consciousness, but the more they grew the more they started repeating the same mistakes of humanity Or is it a mistake in the first place?
I went into the debug room from the main menu and after loading my game I got thrown into the intro section. I am confused. Is this normal and what should I do now?
I went into the debug room from the main menu and after loading my game I got thrown into the intro section. I am confused. Is this normal and what should I do now?
The OST is better than the first game imo, and is easily the best I've heard this year. At the very least, I think those who've beaten the game would find it difficult to argue how utterly dynamic and well used the OST is within this game.
As for the endings, it's not about pursuing it or something you think about maybe doing. You literally need to in order to complete the entire game. Five routes, A-E. The other letters of the alphabet are joke endings, although Ending Y isn't a complete throwaway. Regarding the main routes/endings, it's much more straightforward as opposed to what the first game made you do. The entire game is around 40-50 hours.
They do a good job of bringing up everything necessary in the game itself - even smaller details that were previously only in spinoff media like Grimoire Nier, that drama CD or the YoRHa play are provided when relevant.
They do a good job of bringing up everything necessary in the game itself - even smaller details that were previously only in spinoff media like Grimoire Nier, that drama CD or the YoRHa play are provided when relevant.
Finally got to start this over the weekend and now it's the only thing I want to play. Between the story music and combat everything feels good and has it's place after probably 15 hours I finished the castle area and I feel like I'm getting close to ending a I dont want it to end yet
I just got Ending A and honestly...I'm disappointed.
This isn't the game I was expecting it to be. I know its not the end of the game yet and there's still more story to tell, but even the original Nier had a satisfying first ending. This ending doesn't feel satisfying at all and the game feels largely rushed and unfinished. For example, I don't think enough time was spent between the characters for
2B to care as much as she does about 9S. I feel as if the ending was contrived. I can't take her care of 9S seriously when so little time was spent between them and they barely talked to each other.
This isn't at all like Papa Nier's interactions with Kaine and/or Weiss. Those characters talked a lot throughout the series and learned more and more about each other as they spent time with one another, and reason was given for why the characters acted the way they did.
Emil's suffering felt real.
Here its all just....I couldn't feel anything for these characters. It wasn't sad. Taro games are supposed to depress me. I can't take these character interactions seriously in Automata. And I didn't even know I was at the final boss of the game once I got to it. I don't even know what the plot of this game was for Ending A.
Also gameplay wise, I feel like there weren't enough fun bosses. The fights against all the big robots were really fun, but the fights against Adam and Eve were boring and dull and largely just spent standing away shooting at them until they die while dodging their attacks. They're so small they're unimpressive to look at, and they didn't do any really crazy attacks to make them interesting. I wanted more fights like the opera boss or the kaiju.
I just got Ending A and honestly...I'm disappointed.
This isn't the game I was expecting it to be. I know its not the end of the game yet and there's still more story to tell, but even the original Nier had a satisfying first ending. This ending doesn't feel satisfying at all and the game feels largely rushed and unfinished. For example, I don't think enough time was spent between the characters for
2B to care as much as she does about 9S. I feel as if the ending was contrived. I can't take her care of 9S seriously when so little time was spent between them and they barely talked to each other.
This isn't at all like Papa Nier's interactions with Kaine and/or Weiss. Those characters talked a lot throughout the series and learned more and more about each other as they spent time with one another, and reason was given for why the characters acted the way they did.
Emil's suffering felt real.
Here its all just....I couldn't feel anything for these characters. It wasn't sad. Taro games are supposed to depress me. I can't take these character interactions seriously in Automata. And I didn't even know I was at the final boss of the game once I got to it. I don't even know what the plot of this game was for Ending A.
Also gameplay wise, I feel like there weren't enough fun bosses. The fights against all the big robots were really fun, but the fights against Adam and Eve were boring and dull and largely just spent standing away shooting at them until they die while dodging their attacks. They're so small they're unimpressive to look at, and they didn't do any really crazy attacks to make them interesting. I wanted more fights like the opera boss or the kaiju.
I just got Ending A and honestly...I'm disappointed.
This isn't the game I was expecting it to be. I know its not the end of the game yet and there's still more story to tell, but even the original Nier had a satisfying first ending. This ending doesn't feel satisfying at all and the game feels largely rushed and unfinished. For example, I don't think enough time was spent between the characters for
2B to care as much as she does about 9S. I feel as if the ending was contrived. I can't take her care of 9S seriously when so little time was spent between them and they barely talked to each other.
This isn't at all like Papa Nier's interactions with Kaine and/or Weiss. Those characters talked a lot throughout the series and learned more and more about each other as they spent time with one another, and reason was given for why the characters acted the way they did.
Emil's suffering felt real.
Here its all just....I couldn't feel anything for these characters. It wasn't sad. Taro games are supposed to depress me. I can't take these character interactions seriously in Automata. And I didn't even know I was at the final boss of the game once I got to it. I don't even know what the plot of this game was for Ending A.
Also gameplay wise, I feel like there weren't enough fun bosses. The fights against all the big robots were really fun, but the fights against Adam and Eve were boring and dull and largely just spent standing away shooting at them until they die while dodging their attacks. They're so small they're unimpressive to look at, and they didn't do any really crazy attacks to make them interesting. I wanted more fights like the opera boss or the kaiju.
All right, I'll keep playing and try to hold off before judging it so harshly. I know there's more to this game and the original Nier's quality jumped by leaps and bounds once the 2nd playthrough happened, so I probably should wait before passing judgement.
I've been playing on Hard, actually.
I don't think the game is well balanced in that regard either. Normal is hilariously easy and enemies let you walk right up to them, but on Hard you die in 1-2 hits and enemies are extremely aggressive. But I could live with that; I just don't like how you had so many fights against Adam and Eve.
I wonder how a replay on Hard would be if I just primarily focused on Defense in order to offset the whole "1-2 hits you're dead" thing. Probably would've been more interesting than playing on Normal for the entire duration at the very least.
I wonder how a replay on Hard would be if I just primarily focused on Defense in order to offset the whole "1-2 hits you're dead" thing. Probably would've been more interesting than playing on Normal for the entire duration at the very least.
That's what I was doing on my replay - max HP, +def, etc with zero offensive chips. I definitely enjoyed it more than Normal and default Hard, but it falls into some of the same pitfalls as Normal, like infinite healing items, spammable dodge, lack of aggression in bosses, and the shooter segments are still a cakewalk.
Like I kinda prefer the gameplay be easy-going? I feel like anything that can really put a roadblock on your progress through the story is probably a bad thing.
