Captain_Spanky
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Ok now I'm drooling. I rented it and LOVED normal mode.
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Ninja Gaiden 1 (reboot) |OT| Itagaki's Masterpiece
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Ok now I'm drooling. I rented it and LOVED normal mode.
The Antitype
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Let the record show, that even in Ninja Gaiden Black, spirit Doku is a wuss. 
The Antitype
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you have to beat very hard mode
beating alma 1 on hard
beat either hydracubus or bone dragon on hard
Goddamnit. Game-breaking items be damned, even the SCREENSHOTS from that fucking screen look great.
When I buy a Vita, I'm buying this game for it. Even the worst version of Ninja Gaiden is probably the best action game on the platform.
Not legal.
See, now I just wanna use this thread to talk about how bad NG3 is.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Let the record show, that even in Ninja Gaiden Black, spirit Doku is a wuss.
regular doku too.
just beat him with the potency armlet (kicks+throws) and X,Y or X,X,Y only. the Y attack has a bunch of iframes he can't do shit about.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
I like your way of thinking!
I had Sigma on my PS3 for a while now that I never played since NG takes such an investment to play. There was so much depth to the areas & level design that you couldn't just plug in & play. You had to fully dedicate yourself & not just a quick speed run through it or otherwise you would be missing out on a ton of content.
This thread has finally motivated me to play it.
The Antitype
Banned
I found armored Doku much harder in Black than in the original, where the flying swallow basically annihilated him.
Wasn't that hard to get around, though. I just baited him into that combo he does, flying swallow straight through him, follow up with xx->xy or xxy, roll out of the way, repeat.
Spirit doku, if he blocks flying swallow, he still doesn't seem to do shit about it. I roll away, try again, hit it, follow up with xxyyy, or if I'm feeling nasty, switch to the Lunar immediately after it lands and follow-up with any of the 'mash y' combos.
FallingEdge
Member
Okay, if I can get a disc copy of NGB, I will scoop.
Is Sigma that much worse then NGB? It seems to have everything that NGB has and more. Or are they "two different games"?
Saves only get corrupted if you move the harddrive to a new 360. Team Ninja locks the saves to one console, so your saves should be fine as long as your 360 doesn't rrod.
I lost my Black saves after I had to switch consoles.
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I just picked it up last week.
I'd agree that black is the better game overall but you can't go wrong with sigma. It looks much nicer (except for that water) and it's got a bunch of extra content and streamlined levels with fewer inane puzzle segments. People take issue with the 3 short Rachel levels because they break up the pacing and really serve no purpose nor are they very fun. My problem is how long the level load/save times are in Sigma. They're not terrible, but in comparison Black's are nearly instantaneous. Also the water in Sigma as I mentioned is hilariously awful. Overall though it's pretty much the same awesome game.
Seraphinianus
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The Antitype
Banned
I'm ok with there being one abusable move given how little breathing room enemies give you. If this were your standard action game, where enemies politely take turns, then sure. But when you're desperate just to get some room between you and the four ninjas/demons/soldiers piling on, I'm ok with one move that will almost guarantee you some space.
Personally, my complaint is that there's no way to counter bosses, and bosses with unblockable attacks. It's always been one of those videogamey things I hate - these special enemies where the game basically says 'you know all those skills you've been honing? Yeah, forget those, they won't work cause we say so'.
I don't mind bosses that can destroy my health in 3 hits, but if I learn the patterns and am able to time a block or a counter-attack, it should do SOMETHING. Some bosses, to Team Ninja's credit, do have attacks that get their damage cut by a HUGE margin if you block. But I wish if I hit a counter attack, it would by me some room and give me a chance to set up a combo.
The Antitype
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Goddamnit, I made it to the final boss with only three Ki slots. I don't know how I missed the last two Spirit of the Devils.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Updated the formatting and content of the OP.
did you do the fiend challenges? The last two might be rewards for those.
$65 new on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009UC68U/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Goddamnit, I made it to the final boss with only three Ki slots. I don't know how I missed the last two Spirit of the Devils.
did you do the fiend challenges? The last two might be rewards for those.
$65 new on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009UC68U/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The Antitype
Banned
Those are when enemies keep respawning until a chest appears? I think I did... 3 of those. One with the insects from hell, one with the red demons after the Doku fight, and one with the hovering brain wasps.
Damnit, I also missed ONE 'Life of the Gods' and ONE scarab. Damnit. I am NOT replaying this on normal again.
Ugh, I hate this last boss battle (the two form one... not the final, final one). It just robs everything great from the combat system.
Whats the best way to avoid the chomping demon head. I've tried jumping to the side, he catches me. I've tried rolling to the side, he catches me. Basically, I'm defaulting to hitting nimpo and using the invincibility frames to avoid it... which is lame (just like the whole fight).
Of course, I might just be upset cause I used to be able to beat this boss without even taking damage, and I just [accidentally] used [one of three] life charms (or whatever the get out of death free cards are called) on the first form, before annihilating the second form without a second thought.
shades of ng2...
Sigma 1 seems alright. I don't have a 360 anymore so I'm reduced to playing that version these days, but it's solid enough. I mean it's basically a Ninja Gaiden Black port so it's hard to fuck that up too much. There's that 1080p weirdness with it but I just play at 720p and it still looks decent enough, and runs well.
I haven't played it too much yet so I'm not at the Rachel chapters. Gotta love that Hayashi can't even make a straight port without throwing filler in. All he had to do was basically copy NGB - and add some of the actually useful things like items on the d-pad - but he had to also add unnecessary gameplay sections in anyway.
I haven't played it too much yet so I'm not at the Rachel chapters. Gotta love that Hayashi can't even make a straight port without throwing filler in. All he had to do was basically copy NGB - and add some of the actually useful things like items on the d-pad - but he had to also add unnecessary gameplay sections in anyway.
Thanks for the link. I looked on amazon but missed that one somehow. I remembered that I bought the digital version on Live a long time ago. So I'm re-downloading it now!
Seraphinianus
Banned
Thanks for reminding me of the one after the doku fight! Gotta go back and do that...i went right to the ice cave.
Not sure which fight you mean by "chomping demon head"...
part of that was sony's policy of requiring a certain amount of new content too. I think people were asking for more playable characters beforehand as well, so it seemed like it could've been cool at first. It makes the game drag though because her chapters are just boring retreads. She has some fun skills, but not even a 1/10th of the character of ryu...
Ayane would've been better! She's running around Tairon the whole time as well...
I usually wait for his skull to come close, usually baiting him to either the left or right side of the island, then jump to the opposit side and roll forward. He can't make that sharp of a turn. Also, the flails are your best friend in that fight when the skulls start bombarding you.
How does Ayane play in NGS2?
The Antitype
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Huh... I thought the game carried over your scarabs from one game to the next. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
BeautifulMemory
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Ayane plays great in NGS2. Very agile, with explosive as her projectile. She plays a different style so you can't just spam UT or izuna drop all day. Her weapons are short-ranged too
@Antitype: no new game +!
@Antitype: no new game +!
To Far Away Times
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Ninja Gaiden is the best action game ever made.
This is the one game where the enemies aren't there for you to kill, the enemies are there to kill you.
This is the one game where the enemies aren't there for you to kill, the enemies are there to kill you.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Only NG vanilla had new game+, unfortunately.
That's good to hear. Probably gonna get NGS2 soon.
Not really fond of the significant reduction in enemies on-screen since NG2 is balanced around constant heavy offense. Digital Foundry also indicated that the performance between the two is roughly the same in most scenes and that the reduced enemy count was basically a necessity due to the PS3's architecture.
The Antitype
Banned
Ah.
BTW, I don't know if it was you... I think it was.... but whoever said that the Lunar is good for the Black Spider Ninjas is a fucking genius. It eats them up!
Lunar aside, starting Ninja Gaiden Black on hard after beating it on Normal is one of the best experiences the game has. Enemies and scenarios that intimidated and challenged you at the onset of your first playthrough, are simple now. That demonstration of how far your skills have come, forged in the fires of the game's challenge, is amazing.
...that said, I'm not looking forward to some of the cheaper, pattern-based boss battles. I'll always prefer the multi-foe skirmishes that take place between the big boss battles.
I heard that was the reason for much less blood, and blood and limbs that disappear quickly.
BeautifulMemory
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I never played NG2, so I can't speak on the differences. Overall with NGS2, per design, is more methodical like NGS, so the enemy per screen balances out. Also, once you get to very hard and Master Ninja, cheap stuff still exists and you wouldn't even be thinking about how many enemies are on the screen. All you will see is ninjas jumping towards you and mages either spamming fireball or teleporting to grab you lol
NGS2 also looks cleaner, but again that's by design to be more like NGS. I personally find the game to be enjoyable until MN.
Dreams-Visions
Member
same.
Seraphinianus
Banned
she's fun, probably my favorite part about the game. She feels like her DOA character in an action game...lots of spinning bullshit and speeed!
Wonderfully. Kind of frustrating how underpowered she is on MN, but it just forces you to play with a more finesse hit and run style of play.
Yeah, if you run through the level amassing more than 6 or 7 enemies the framerate tanks pretty hard. The system's poor alpha texture capabilities as the reason for fewer blood splatters probably has merit as well, but people seem to forget that the game is running at a significantly higher resolution than vanilla, with better textures, more complex geometry in both world and characters and more accurate environment lighting.
ayane is amazing,so is momiji,who can chain UTs mid-air,how cool is that?
well,considering that it runs at like double the resolution this is still quite an archievement
the ps3 can handle it,but like the 360 the framerate takes a dive when you hoard 10-12 enemies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7Runk_lSc
though in co-op you have tons of enemies AND 2 high poly character models and it runs smooth for the most time
Wait, people aim manually during the tank fight? Do you guys do that with the chapter 2 horsemen and boss as well?
The Antitype
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I think he's saying he doesn't WANT to aim, but the gyro aim is taking him into manual aim even when he doesn't intend to.
And I never aim the bow unless I have to.
Although, using explosive arrows on the tank to make the guy go back inside gives you ALOT of time to manually aim up to 4 shots with the core arrows if you want to.
But yeah, usually I just hop around and shoot, hoping the auto-aim does it's job.
Seraphinianus
Banned
I do it on the tanks but not the horsemen. I stay pretty far away from the tank and sometimes it moves and fucks up his aim.
Hell or Hell mode:
The Antitype
Banned
Sigh. Dynamo just 'blocks' my ultimate attacks. And by that, I mean it just bounce off him, after putting myself at risk by getting close to him and absorbing the essence.
Terrible. Just downright, self-indulgent bullshit for fake 'challenge'. Beneath a Ninja Gaiden game.
The way this game breaks its own rules whenever it suits it is fucking annoying on Hard, where getting hit actually has decent consequence.
Terrible. Just downright, self-indulgent bullshit for fake 'challenge'. Beneath a Ninja Gaiden game.
The way this game breaks its own rules whenever it suits it is fucking annoying on Hard, where getting hit actually has decent consequence.
sixteen-bit
Member
Really like the look of the monastery in rubbles.
I'm convinced XBLA all-girl fighting game stole that background
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35762003&postcount=113
The Antitype
Banned
This is so stupid. Can somebody explain to me why this boss has magically acquired the ability to shoot me out of the air when I'm comboing guard-rolls and jumps to evade, GUARANTEED?
I don't remember this being an issue when I played this game on the Xbox, and considering I have to also avoid being shot by hand-guns from his buddies, the fact that I am GUARANTEED to lose health getting around him is pretty fucking annoying.
I don't remember this being an issue when I played this game on the Xbox, and considering I have to also avoid being shot by hand-guns from his buddies, the fact that I am GUARANTEED to lose health getting around him is pretty fucking annoying.
uhm dunno,i always run [ ] [ ] him to death without him hitting me ^^