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Ninja Gaiden 2+ |OT| The Feel of Ninja Gaiden 2

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Was just about to post the trophy list lol.

Here it is: http://www.psmania.net/trophies/ninja-gaiden-sigma-2-plus/

Oh, wow, that's SIGNIFICANTLY easier than Sigma 2's. Hell, Sigma +'s as well.

Though I think that "Mastered the Path of the Master Ninja" is a continuation of Sigma+'s "Master Ninja rank all missions on Master Ninja difficulty" which is a pain in the ass with that forced Gyro bow controls.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Oh, wow, that's SIGNIFICANTLY easier than Sigma 2's. Hell, Sigma +'s as well.

Though I think that "Mastered the Path of the Master Ninja" is a continuation of Sigma+'s "Master Ninja rank all missions on Master Ninja difficulty" which is a pain in the ass with that forced Gyro bow controls.

Personally, I felt that the karma system in Σ Plus made getting the trophy pretty easy (with the first level as an exception), since spamming UTs and chaining them into encounters all but guaranteed a Master Ninja rank.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Karma farming is the goal there? I thought you had to have a high time and full ninpo for master ninja.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Karma farming is the goal there? I thought you had to have a high time and full ninpo for master ninja.

Well, obviously you want to complete the level quickly without using ninpo. Chaining UTs helps with both while gaining karma that you can fall back on if you make a mistake.
Completing ambushes almost guarantees a Master Ninja Rank as well.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Picking this up as soon as the store update goes live. $10 credit ftw.

Yeah, I'm getting this digitally too.
The pre-order costumes never interested me.

Speaking of which, I can't find any mention of them on the official site. It just says "Avaiable Now".
 

Revan

Member
It seems that there has been a huge mess with the DLC codes - they are either invalid or no one has received them at all.

Some guy on GameFAQS said that they were never shipped by the manufacturer.

I never got a DLC code.

Tecmo dropped the ball on this one...
 

reson8or

Member
It seems that there has been a huge mess with the DLC codes - they are either invalid or no one has received them at all.

Some guy on GameFAQS said that they were never shipped by the manufacturer.

I never got a DLC code.

Tecmo dropped the ball on this one...

Don't codes go live once the store updates?
sometimes
 

DR2K

Banned
So I just opened the game and NO DLC code anywhere to be found, including the receipt.

Same thing happened to someone over on GameFAQS as well.

Wonder if Team Ninja Dog fucked up with this....

Same here as well. Manager couldn't find anything on it and I contacted CS just now. Fucking fucked up. Any mention of the DLC is gone from the website.

Don't codes go live once the store updates?
sometimes

They have to actually give us codes for that to happen.
 

Revan

Member
So I'm up to chap 3 - the image IQ is nowhere near the polish of NGS+.

Combat really slows down when there is 6+ enemies on screen - I'm really wondering how they do the staircase.

Chap Challenge unlock as you go as well a the level for Ninja Race and Tag Missions.

The image someone posted above with the really blurred graphics happens - it's like the game resets the graphics after a UT.

There is NO forced gyro aiming with the bow - the toggle works pretty well as it automatically locks on.

Mentor is unlocked from the get go.

I've only played the main game ATM - I wanna plow through it first before tackling the races/challenges.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Just got this and tried tag mode.

It's like a slide show. Felt completely unplayable to me.

Don't know if there's a patch that addresses this or not, since I won't have a wi-fi connection to check for updates until I get home in an hour or so.
 

DR2K

Banned
Just got this and tried tag mode.

It's like a slide show. Felt completely unplayable to me.

Don't know if there's a patch that addresses this or not, since I won't have a wi-fi connection to check for updates until I get home in an hour or so.

No patch. Returned this piece of shit thankfully. I said it was a defect, which is what it was.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
No patch. Returned this piece of shit thankfully. I said it was a defect, which is what it was.

I guess there's a chance they patch it later, but right now, there's no way I can recommend this port. They fucked it up.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Gah. Thanks for saving me 40 bucks.

It's too bad, too. I was looking forward to this. Oh well, hopefully Senran Kagura won't be shit...that's what I'd hate to lose money on.

And man...DOA5+ better not turn out this way. That's what I really want from Team Ninja Dog.
 

DR2K

Banned
It's too bad, too. I was looking forward to this. Oh well, hopefully Senran Kagura won't be shit...that's what I'd hate to lose money on.

And man...DOA5+ better not turn out this way. That's what I really want from Team Ninja Dog.

Yeah I was having fun outside the framerate issues. It looked pretty, had some nice effects, but it just wasn't designed to be played.

Awesome, thanks.
There's no way Tag Mission mode can run worse then AC3 Liberation or MGS3D, right?

It's like playing NGS2 laggy online mode, but offline.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
And man...DOA5+ better not turn out this way. That's what I really want from Team Ninja Dog.

It won't, unless Hayashit puts his hands all over Team DOA. ;___;

Team DOA's actually been good (in before Grape/"Pro"'s bitching about the game and "OMG THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME!"). Team Ninja Dog meanwhile...
 

Skilletor

Member
It won't, unless Hayashit puts his hands all over Team DOA. ;___;

Team DOA's actually been good (in before Grape/"Pro"'s bitching about the game and "OMG THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME!"). Team Ninja Dog meanwhile...

That has nothing to do with a port. NGS+ is a great port, this isn't. Since DoA has much more going on and NEEDS to be 60fps and they couldn't get this game running at 30, I have to wonder how it will play on the Vita.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
It's really, really BAD. I can't decide which game is ruined worse by the horrible frame rate- this or Sonic Transformed on 3DS. :p
 
Ehhh, glad I held out until hearing some impressions. Was planning on buying this when it hits PSN, but I think I'm just going to avoid it. Disappointing because I have Sigma + on Vita, Razor's Edge on Wii U, and was looking forward to completing the trilogy.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
That has nothing to do with a port. NGS+ is a great port, this isn't. Since DoA has much more going on and NEEDS to be 60fps and they couldn't get this game running at 30, I have to wonder how it will play on the Vita.

It has everything to do with it. Hayashit's been in charge of the Ninja Gaiden ports. Team DOA's head (forgetting his name) has been in charge of DOA and is in charge of the portable port.

One couldn't even port an X-box game (because he wanted to use HIS port of said X-box game) and achieve 60FPS easily, to where he had 30FPS in an X-box game. Then couldn't port his second port (that granted, fixed the original version on anything above Normal/Warrior).

The other is porting with a Sony-made "PS3 downgrade" feature and has stated that the game is going to be 60FPS come hell or highwater.

So yeah... Team DOA > Team Ninja Dog it seems.
 

Skilletor

Member
It has everything to do with it. Hayashit's been in charge of the Ninja Gaiden ports. Team DOA's head (forgetting his name) has been in charge of DOA and is in charge of the portable port.

One couldn't even port an X-box game (because he wanted to use HIS port of said X-box game) and achieve 60FPS easily, to where he had 30FPS in an X-box game. Then couldn't port his second port (that granted, fixed the original version on anything above Normal/Warrior).

The other is porting with a Sony-made "PS3 downgrade" feature and has stated that the game is going to be 60FPS come hell or highwater.

So yeah... Team DOA > Team Ninja Dog it seems.

Buuuuuut...NGS+ was great. NGS+ is not a port of an xbox game. It's a port of the ps3 game which is running on the same engine as NGS2.

So you go ahead and believe what you want. For me, Team Ninja is 1 for 2. Definitely not going to purchase DoA5 blind.
 
If that's the case, then it'll be playable for me.

Its far from a perfect port but it does the job. Boss fights are perfect so far as well. Haven't played the tag missions yet though and those could be bad since they are basically huge fights with two characters.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Its far from a perfect port but it does the job. Boss fights are perfect so far as well. Haven't played the tag missions yet though and those could be bad since they are basically huge fights with two characters.

This picture doesn't really give me too much hope in that regard.

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Skilletor

Member
Jesus. Is it dynamic resolution? That looks like TTT2 with 4 characters on screen.

Reading around that turning gore off helps. Any truth to this?
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
I'll just add that I'll happily eat crow if DOA5+ is just as bad as a port as this, but I have no reason to believe (from DOA5 treatment/team) that that'll be as bad a port as Sigma 1/2+.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Yeah the res drops a lot, if that's a deal breaker for you skip this game for sure.

Nah, I was just hoping it'd be a bit more playable since trophies are attached to it.
I'll have to decide if it's a dealbreaker when I play it.

EDIT:
That happens a few times; so far usually in bright areas like at the beginning of the Hayabusa village in the cemetery.

Only for a second or so, right?

EDIT2: Eh Tag Mission mode doesn't seem that bad.
 
Just played my first tag mission (gore off) not nearly as bad as I expected. Only one noticeable area of frame rate drop. The res was all over the place though.
 
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