Nintendo 3DS Japanese Launch Thread

345triangle said:
i haven't played much of the new ones beyond 2009 and checking out the demo each year, but it's definitely a lot more modern feeling than, say, PES6, and the interface is current (power bar under players, etc). i think the graphics are miles better than the wii series, too, or at least the one i have.

i put a lot of time into PES5 on PSP and this is certainly a lot better than that!

edit for the guy who asked about master league: i don't know what "proper" master league means but there is a mode called master league. i've only played through champions league so far.
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Oh my god.
 
345triangle said:
i bought it, and my initial impressions are extremely positive. definitely the most impressive 3D i've seen on the system to date, and the new camera angle makes it feel totally new (though the standard camera makes it feel exactly like standard pro evo in your hands, if that's what you want). i think it's the system's killer app if you're at all into football.
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345triangle said:
i haven't played much of the new ones beyond 2009 and checking out the demo each year, but it's definitely a lot more modern feeling than, say, PES6, and the interface is current (power bar under players, etc). i think the graphics are miles better than the wii series, too, or at least the one i have.

i put a lot of time into PES5 on PSP and this is certainly a lot better than that!

edit for the guy who asked about master league: i don't know what "proper" master league means but there is a mode called master league. i've only played through champions league so far.
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Thx man...sounds like day 1 for me :-)
Does it include commentary ? I heard the latest PSP versions dont offer it anymore....
 
vall03 said:
just watched the 1up unboxing video
(why am I considering getting aqua blue?!)
, and noticed no extra stylus? or did I just miss something?
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quoting my post a couple of pages back, anyone know?
 
Finally PES info! HYPEEEEEE! By proper master league I mean, not a gimped version.

Looks like I'm prordering Pro Evo, still unsure about Pilot Wings and if I'll triple dip on SSFIV....
 
vall03 said:
quoting my post a couple of pages back, anyone know?
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No extra stylus. But then again, I haven't really ransacked my box or anything.

The inclusion of a docking 'station' is nice.

3D is causing lots of eye strain, however. May have to turn it off after the novelty wears off, which is right about now.
 
chespace said:
No extra stylus. But then again, I haven't really ransacked my box or anything.
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aw, I never lost any of my styli but this is a disappointment, this is also going to be a big problem for my sister since shes prone to losing them. Anyway, thanks! But then again, they're pretty cheap if ever I lost one...
 
Sipowicz said:
it just looks like a rounder, rubberised psp

3DS looks like a completely fucked up, shinier ds lite. it's an abomination but first gen nintendo handhelds always are
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Hyperbole much.
Let's be serious.
3DS design is way better than DS phat design.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Of course not. It simply maps to the D-pad so it's 8 digital directions only.

You're right, the game allows you to move in a perfect circle using the D-pad. It's easier to do now but it's not going to be analogue so you won't get the same control finesse as the original N64 game.
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did SMB64DS not have some kind of touch screen analogue functionality?

how do you know the slidepad doesn't tap into that? (wishful thinking and technological magic aside)
 
cw_sasuke said:
Does it include commentary ? I heard the latest PSP versions dont offer it anymore....
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good question, i've only played with sound off on the train! will let you know next time i play.

che: i'm sortof feeling the eyestrain too. i really like the effect, i think my brain's just trying to get used to it...if not, i'll be using it sparingly. i've probably played the system in total today for about the length of avatar extended edition (if that exists), though, which i doubt i'll be doing every day.

here's a question; the 3D lamp doesn't work like i expected it to. i thought it would go off when i turn the slider down and pulse when it's up, but it only actually goes off for me when the top screen is displaying non-3D content (like the SFIV anime movies) and is solidly on at all other times wherever the slider is. did i just read previews wrong?
 
The 3D in Street Fighter made my eyes bleed, hopefully it gets better with Ridge Racer and Nintendogs which are up next!

Gotto say though that the overall feeling of the system is a major let down. The buttons and D-pad are eons better on my old DS Lite.
 
kaizoku said:
did SMB64DS not have some kind of touch screen analogue functionality?

how do you know the slidepad doesn't tap into that? (wishful thinking and technological magic aside)
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Because...

1: That's practically impossible to do since it would screw up other games

2: I've actually played a DS game on the 3DS so I know what I'm talking about

3: Other systems have done it before and it's nothing special. Virtual Console games let you use the analog stick for movement. It just maps the Circle Pad to the 8 D-pad directions.

It'll be easier to pull off circular movements for comfort reasons, but in no way is it true analog control. If it was tapping into the touch screen controls, you'd see a virtual analog stick on the bottom screen. The touch screen camera buttons would also be unusable as the system lacks multitouch support.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
CVX already confirmed it he played many games including Mario64 and loved that Mario could run in circles now
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Clearly a placebo effect caused by the slide pad's smooth movement.

DS games access the d-pad as four buttons (up, down, left, right) which can be either on or off. The 3DS slide pad maps to the d-pad, there's absolutely no way it can send more than 8 directions to DS games.

Also, Mario 64 DS movement isn't digital: the characters don't instantly snap in the direction you press in the d-pad, they gradually turn towards it. It's no different to how d-pad racing games worked (the d-pad drives a virtual analogue steering).

kaizoku said:
did SMB64DS not have some kind of touch screen analogue functionality?

how do you know the slidepad doesn't tap into that? (wishful thinking and technological magic aside)
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Because "touch screen analogue" isn't a hardware-standard feature and is done entirely by the game. The 3DS would need to contain a patch for Mario 64 DS in order for this to work.
 
damn so much for crappy launch titles you collect them all
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it's launch tax - PS3 jpn launch i bought everything -and- 3 extra Sixaxis :/ (including the horrific Sega Golf game)

Dinosaur game - will give it a go at some point and let you know.
 
I wasn't serious. Layton impressions would be nice, though. I haven't heard many of those since launch for some reason.
 
NintendoGal said:
Wow, it suffers from a ton of ghosting. At least the few I picked to download out of those. It's also really grainy. :(
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The DSi and 3DS cameras aren't really designed for taking pics to be displayed on bigger screens. They're designed for pics to be viewed on the device itself.

They'll look better on the system itself.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
The DSi and 3DS cameras aren't really designed for taking pics to be displayed on bigger screens. They're designed for pics to be viewed on the device itself.

They'll look better on the system itself.
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Oh I know, I've seen the 3DS before. It just was shocking to see how bad they are on my computer though. Not sure if it's been answered in this thread yet, but is it possible to move your own MPO files to the system and view them?
 
NintendoGal said:
Oh I know, I've seen the 3DS before. It just was shocking to see how bad they are on my computer though. Not sure if it's been answered in this thread yet, but is it possible to move your own MPO files to the system and view them?
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I would also like to know this answer. I'm guessing it'll be like the DSi though :/
 
345triangle said:
i bought it, and my initial impressions are extremely positive. definitely the most impressive 3D i've seen on the system to date, and the new camera angle makes it feel totally new (though the standard camera makes it feel exactly like standard pro evo in your hands, if that's what you want). i think it's the system's killer app if you're at all into football.
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Bloody Hel! This might be the one that pushes me over to bget one close to the launch window. Deos it compare to the superiour PS2 Pro Evo Titles or are you basing it off the terrible Next Gen ones?
 
I've got to admit, though I preordered the black, that blue 3DS is dead sexy... I don't think I'd hesitate on one of those (will stick with stealth black for my first one though)... God, I hope they release some more interesting colours before Xmas, particularly purple!

donkey show said:
Boosh, just killed the battery to the point where it would auto shut-off every time I tried to turn it back on.

There was a bit more than 2 hours and 45 minutes straight playing time from full juice with full 3D, full volume, WiFi, AR games, camera taking, etc.
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I guess we all owe Sony an apology... Five hour PSP battery life is looking pretty good now... this thing sucks power like a Nomad!

(re: Ridge Racer:)
gkryhewy said:
That actually looks pretty sweet, assuming that framerate is from the video and the game doesn't actually run at sub-30fps.
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I hope you can turn off those stupid Namco character icons that block half the scenery when you approach another car...
 
well i'm not a hardcore pro evo player by any means, so take what i'm saying with a grain of salt; the last few games i've owned have been 2009, 2008 (wii), 6 (360), 5 (PSP) and 4 (PS2, my favourite). i have no idea how i'd slot this game into those, but basically it feels like pro evo and is nothing if not competent - the graphics are somewhere between wii and current-gen, the gameplay is somewhere between PS2 and current-gen and the 3DS features (camera, effect) give it its own feel.

i also picked up ridge racer and played a fair bit - it seems to me a big part of the back and forth on how the game looks is based on track selection, because some of them are ugly as hell but a bunch of them actually look really nice. the PSP one is probably technically ahead but taking 3D and art style into account, i prefer the way it looks on 3DS. plus it plays really really well!
 
I actually think the video of this looked pretty damn good. I usually like Ridge Racer gameplay so I know what to expect, and in 3D I suppose it would be quite decent since it's just depth based. All I want to know is how much content is in the game? I don't want to buy it at the over-priced launch RRP, only to find that it has 5 tracks and a dozen cars.
 
Does the 3DS do videos too or only photos?

Also, does someone have a splicing app that works on Windows? I want to see these images in cross-eyed format.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
I actually think the video of this looked pretty damn good. I usually like Ridge Racer gameplay so I know what to expect, and in 3D I suppose it would be quite decent since it's just depth based. All I want to know is how much content is in the game? I don't want to buy it at the over-priced launch RRP, only to find that it has 5 tracks and a dozen cars.
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it seems in line with something like RR7 or RR2 PSP, in that the actual content is somewhat indeterminable from the start due to the huge number of events. i can't imagine there not being enough, anyway.

okay and i can confirm that winning eleven has pretty reasonable-sounding commentary with player names etc, in japanese at least! if you've ever watched a football match in japanese you'll know that realistic commentary in that language is probably a whole lot easier to recreate, though.
 
My only question left about this thing is about the touch screen.

How does it compare interms of input to the DSlite? Can we use our finger so it registers smoothly. Coming from being left handed, I'm sure the lack of 2nd analog for fps games would be overlooked by a decent touch screen. Using the stylus with my right hand is near enough impossible for me....
 
Hmm, 8-4Play start talking about the friends list, but then don't mention the things everyone was asking about i.e. can you message people etc. !

The impressions on comfort with the 3D don't sound good.
 
besiktas1 said:
My only question left about this thing is about the touch screen.

How does it compare interms of input to the DSlite? Can we use our finger so it registers smoothly. Coming from being left handed, I'm sure the lack of 2nd analog for fps games would be overlooked by a decent touch screen. Using the stylus with my right hand is near enough impossible for me....
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It's a resistive touch screen, so it should act the same as the previous DS's. It would be nice in some situations to have a heat-based screen like an iphone, but I'd prefer the precision of using a stylus.
 
gofreak said:
Hmm, 8-4Play start talking about the friends list, but then don't mention the things everyone was asking about i.e. can you message people etc. !

The impressions on comfort with the 3D don't sound good.
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Unfortunately, we didn't get to do too much with online.

From what I can tell though, there isn't any sort of messaging service, which is a big fail. You however can see if your friends are online and you can see what game they are playing. Which is a definite step up from....absolutely nothing.
 
sprsk said:
Unfortunately, we didn't get to do too much with online.

From what I can tell though, there isn't any sort of messaging service, which is a big fail. You however can see if your friends are online and you can see what game they are playing. Which is a definite step up from....absolutely nothing.
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Thanks - not so surprising, but I'd assume they'll improve it over time too.
 
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