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For people who are having eye strain/motion sickness, are you just switching the 3d between max and off? I'm pretty sure the slider doesn't make the effect stronger, it adjusts the focus because everyone's eyes are a little different.

The Virtual Boy had a 3D focus adjuster too, and if it wasn't adjusted to you then the effect was a lot worse on your eyes.

Playing with the slider actually adjusts the amount of depth you see in your 3D.

Although, it's entirely possible it also does what you say above.

For the record, I played those AR games just now at max 3D.

 

[Darko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82H78sPygTQ&feature=player_embedded
AR games look pretty cool.

holy shit... pokemon AR game plz kthx

 

[Neiteio]

Personally, I plan to start the 3D at zero and then just increase it slightly until it accents the experience to my liking. And I think I'll have others do the same when I demo the system to them. Just have them gradually increase the 3D until they go "Wow" but they're still comfortably viewing. I'd imagine there's some good leeway in there.

 

[AceBandage]

holy shit... pokemon AR game plz kthx

I'm sure there will be a whole new Pokemon AR card battle game.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Playing with the slider actually adjusts the amount of depth you see in your 3D.

Although, it's entirely possible it also does what you say above.

For the record, I played those AR games just now at max 3D.

The slider adjusts the distance between the two images, basically changing the focus. It does not adjust depth.

Putting it on max is a bad idea unless you absolutely can not see the 3D on any level beneath that.

 

[Cheesemeister]

So, how do friend codes work? How long, can you rename them, etc?

Friend Codes are 12 digits, with hyphens after the 4th and 8th digits. There doesn't appear to be an option to rename your friends, as you automatically get their name and Mii when registered. It also shows what they're playing if online, how recently they were online if not, their pick for favorite game, and their greeting. All of 3DS online games use this friend list.

Three questions for the GAFfers with 3DS units...

1) Standby Battery Life: Any idea how long the 3DS lasts in standby/pedometer/"StreetPass Exchange" mode? We are getting a good indication of active use time, but what about if you're just carrying it about?

2) Music Application: I'm fairly sure that all the application will do is play music, but is there any sort of indication it might be usable for things like playing/downloading RSS Podcasts or internet radio streams? Streams would be slightly more likely, but I'm not expecting either one at the moment.

3) DSiWare: Am I right in thinking that there is currently no access to the DSiWare Shop on the 3DS?

I was running around town playing it yesterday for a couple hours and didn't run out of juice. Running on standby should last longer than you'll be away from the charging cradle.

For the music app, I didn't see anything specifically for downloading streams, but you could toss said MP3s anywhere on an SD card and the system will find it.

Software downloads through the eShop and DSiWare migration will be available in the May system update.

Sooo how is Street Pass Puzzle?

Does it even exist?

Yes, you get puzzle pieces from new people you meet through StreetPass. There are 15 tiles in each 5x3 puzzle to collect to form some image. The images will show scenes of Nintendo characters and such.

I asked this before, but I don't know if it has been answered.

Do both people need to add friend codes, or is it a request based system?

I exchanged Friend Codes with donkey show, and I didn't see any sort of request on the system. When I registered him, though, his profile data came up right away.

I'm curious about something.

Remember the original DS, and how the backlight was either On or Off?

Well, in Super Mario 64 DS, in the Options, there was an in-game option to turn the backlight on or off. It even worked on the DS Lite and I think the DSi (but it was too dark to see anything well).

Can some lovely fellow try Mario 64 DS and see if the 3DS's backlight will go completely off? And if so, can you say how it looks? Is it visible and somewhat easy to see?

I don't have Super Mario 64 DS, sorry. I don't see why it wouldn't work, though. Anyone else?

Has anyone been able to note any differences between the SSFIV3D and SSFIV?

As has been frequently mentioned, the 3DS version lacks a lot of the background detail found in the HD versions. During matches, though, you honestly won't notice much. The primary difference is in the shape of the controller and the perspective in the optional 3D mode, which places the camera over the shoulder of your character.

What about the online modes? Apparently, it's very complete. On-par with the consoles version.

Without going down the list and comparing line-by-line, online options looked to be the same.

Has anyone got their hands on both the black and blue 3DS? If so, which color do you prefer? I still can't decide.

I love the blue one day, and then I hate it the next. I don't want to go for the safe color, but I don't want to regret the blue, either. I just wish there was some way I could see it in person before it releases in the US.

I tried both at Nintendo World, but black was pretty obviously the color for me. I didn't want the system's color distracting from the graphics.

For people who are having eye strain/motion sickness, are you just switching the 3d between max and off? I'm pretty sure the slider doesn't make the effect stronger, it adjusts the focus because everyone's eyes are a little different.

I'll be the first to tell you that you have to get the slider adjusted correctly, but a lot of the stress comes from getting out of the sweet spot and seeing cross-talk, getting light from the opposing image in the wrong eye. If you move your head or the system fast, it'll shutter the image like a lenticular card. It makes AR Games or anything using the gyro hard to play with 3D on.

 

[Busaiku]

I'm pretty uninformed on this matter, but what's the point of the charging cradle?
If you get an AC adapter, I don't see why the cradle was necessary.

 

[AceBandage]

I exchanged Friend Codes with donkey show, and I didn't see any sort of request on the system. When I registered him, though, his profile data came up right away.

Oh thank goodness.

 

[Cheesemeister]

I'm pretty uninformed on this matter, but what's the point of the charging cradle?
If you get an AC adapter, I don't see why the cradle was necessary.

Ease-of-use, really. It's easier to slap the system down in the cradle than to stick the wire into the back of the system and set it so it won't come out. The aim is probably to make the 3DS something that you want with you at all times. I'm sure you can find quotes in Iwata Asks to this effect.

 

[BooJoh]

I'm pretty uninformed on this matter, but what's the point of the charging cradle?
If you get an AC adapter, I don't see why the cradle was necessary.

I think it's for the convenience factor. They knew the battery life wasn't optimal, but they want to increase the likelihood of people taking their 3DS whenever they go out, so by giving it a "home" of its own in your home, people are more likely to just set it down there instead of on a random table/desk/counter, thus keeping it charged as often as possible.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Video of Street Pass Quest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=120H1FIgGs4

 

[Truth101]

I exchanged Friend Codes with donkey show, and I didn't see any sort of request on the system. When I registered him, though, his profile data came up right away.

Can you elaborate a bit more.

Did donkey show have you added already, and that is why his information showed up after you added his code?

Does another players data automatically show up after you add them, so in a later update when messages are enabled you can send someone a message saying you added them?

Or do both people have to exchange codes before either person's data shows up?

 

[Amir0x]

Awww, come on man! You have to at least try it! You are too funny, dude.

It's not like I'm new to autostereoscopic 3D. I've played with Fujifilm 3D camera before, which incidentally is better with the dramatically superior quality of the images you can take. And even that did nothing to move me; same drawbacks as ever.

Nah, I'll stick to my headache-free, non-performance reducing, non-gimmick based, non-controller functionality destroying, non-viewing angle fux0red gaming.

In the end, Paper Mario 3DS has to be good on terms unrelated to such a lame feature. And I believe that will be no problem at all

 

[donkey show]

I exchanged Friend Codes with donkey show, and I didn't see any sort of request on the system. When I registered him, though, his profile data came up right away.

Ah sweet, just checked and your Mii showed up on your card. When I added it earlier this morning, it was just a question mark.

 

[BocoDragon]

So what's the word on OG DS games on this thing? Does the resolution issue actually make them look bad, or what?

It's not like I'm new to autostereoscopic 3D. I've played with Fujifilm 3D camera before, which incidentally is better with the dramatically superior quality of the images you can take. And even that did nothing to move me; same drawbacks as ever.

Nah, I'll stick to my headache-free, non-performance reducing, non-gimmick based, non-controller functionality destroying, non-viewing angle fux0red gaming.

In the end, Paper Mario 3DS has to be good on terms unrelated to such a lame feature. And I believe that will be no problem at all

This SO reminds me of your Twilight Princess Wiimote antipathy years ago.

Although you were RIGHT about that one!

 

[Father_Brain]

The slider adjusts the distance between the two images, basically changing the focus. It does not adjust depth.

That can't be right. If it were, there would be no reason why the depth slider would have to revert to a binary on-off switch when playing 3D FMVs or displaying other prerendered content, yet we know that it does.

What the depth slider actually does, as far as I can tell, is adjust the distance between the two in-game cameras, which increases or decreases the perceived depth accordingly. Decreasing the depth may well make it easier to maintain a focus on the screen, but as I understand it, there's no way to adjust the focus of the parallax barrier itself while 3D is on.

 

[BooJoh]

For anyone that has messed around with it, where do the hats and accessories you get from StreetPass Quest show up? Just within StreetPass quest, or also in the Mii Plaza, maybe even the friends list?

 

[Amir0x]

This SO reminds me of your Twilight Princess Wiimote antipathy years ago.

Although you were RIGHT about that one!

I'm "RIGHT" about this too - that is to say, these drawbacks exist and are real for me and even if they don't weigh as heavily for someone else, it's not like they're false downsides. It's just not as important for other people all these problems.

 

[BocoDragon]

I'm "RIGHT" about this too - that is to say, these drawbacks exist and are real for me and even if they don't weigh as heavily for someone else, it's not like they're false downsides. It's just not as important for other people all these problems.

I actually wasn't saying you're not correct about this either.. It seems to have drawbacks, so if you're not "gee whiz" about the effect, by all means leave it off.

 

[Amir0x]

fuck i couldn't stop it I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS

fuck me

let it be known at 12:55AM I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS :*(

 

[Shiggie]

Video of Street Pass Quest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=120H1FIgGs4

Man! so much is packed into this system.

 

[Bii]

fuck i couldn't stop it I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS

fuck me

let it be known at 12:55AM I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS :*(

The game appeared in my Gold Box/Quick Picks on Amazon.com today for $37.99 and I pre-ordered it as well. :/

 

[AceBandage]

fuck i couldn't stop it I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS

fuck me

let it be known at 12:55AM I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS :*(

The horror!
THE HORROR!

 

[Ryoma-Echizen]

Mario 64 DS on a 3DS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaI7wO4CxLY&feature=relmfu

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Amir0x is just showing his general antagonistic nature and overall lack of imagination. Nothing new.

Honestly just looking at the 3D config screen for the first time gave me nerdgasms imagining how cool a Classic Contra Corridor scene would look with the effect.

 

[Mutagenic]

fuck i couldn't stop it I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS

fuck me

let it be known at 12:55AM I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS :*(

Uhhh welcome to the club. I can already envision my buyer's remorse.

 

[Amir0x]

Amir0x is just showing his general antagonistic nature and overall lack of imagination. Nothing new.

What lack of imagination? What does the autostereoscopic 3D have to do with imagination, and why do I require that when I've seen it in action before?

I'm sorry, I forgot, gimmickry for the sake of gimmickry and novelty for the sake of something different with no regard for the impact to the gameplay/technicals or the functionality of the gameplay is somehow commendable in the post-Wii era.

The horror!
THE HORROR!

I hate supporting Scamco. They ruin everything they touch these days

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Oh I just went to my local store and bought SFIV, Layton, and Nintendogs.

They had a special where you get 1000 yen off for every game you buy past 2. So I bought 3 and got 3000 yen off. Almost bought all of them @.@

But yeah not paying the stupid prices that Koei and Scamco want. Will probably not buy anything else until the 17th when Steel Diver hits.

 

[Truth101]

What lack of imagination? What does the autostereoscopic 3D have to do with imagination, and why do I require that when I've seen it in action before?

I'm sorry, I forgot, gimmickry for the sake of gimmickry and novelty for the sake of something different with no regard for the impact to the gameplay/technicals or the functionality of the gameplay is somehow commendable in the post-Wii era.





I hate supporting Scamco. They ruin everything they touch these days

Don't think I didn't see that



On a more serious note, I wonder if Nintendo will add more AR games in through an update...

 

[WiiRevolution1]

So can DS games playtime be tracked by the activity log?

Also just watched that street quest video. Yay for more Mii options! Hope you can unlock a master sword!

 

[Rezbit]

fuck i couldn't stop it I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS

fuck me

let it be known at 12:55AM I pre-ordered Ridge Racer 3DS :*(

Even though it's DEFINITELY a quick, lazy job admittedly it doesn't look completely shit. Looks like a typically fast, decently feature-rich Ridge Racer. It could be worse, I guess?

 

[_Alkaline_]

This SO reminds me of your Twilight Princess Wiimote antipathy years ago.

Although you were RIGHT about that one!

Wii version of TP was better. Pointer controls mang.

Though it seemed like Nintendo tried to subtlely sabotage the GC version.

 

[AceBandage]

I hate supporting Scamco. They ruin everything they touch these days

A lot of devs do, especially on handhelds.
=/

 

[BocoDragon]

Don't think I didn't see that

Damning evidence that Amirox edits posts to further clarify. I'm shocked.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

What lack of imagination? What does the autostereoscopic 3D have to do with imagination, and why do I require that when I've seen it in action before?

I'm sorry, I forgot, gimmickry for the sake of gimmickry and novelty for the sake of something different with no regard for the impact to the gameplay or the functionality of the gameplay is somehow commendable in the post-Wii era.

There is also a point that is important to games called aesthetics and there are plenty of people that are going to think of absolutely BRILLIANT ideas on how to use it to make games look better and more immersive. How about we have this discussion in three years to this date? Hell I already have some pretty high hopes for Steel Diver.

Although I am sure there will be a horrific wave of shoehorning in store for us.

Spoiler

COME ON EAD!

 

[Amir0x]

Even though it's DEFINITELY a quick, lazy job admittedly it doesn't look completely shit. Looks like a typically fast, decently feature-rich Ridge Racer. It could be worse, I guess?

Well, that's sorta the problem - it does look kinda completely shitty (sub-PSP launch Ridge Racer quality, wtf) and plus most of its content is recycled again.

But I just see Ridge, I see a mostly 60fps game with drifting and slipstreams, and I hear that damn announcer


and...and...I can't help myself. It's one of my gaming weaknesses, like Ace Combat, Paper Mario and Zelda.

There is also a point that is important to games called aesthetics and there are plenty of people that are going to think of absolutely BRILLIANT ideas on how to use it to make games look better and more immersive. How about we have this discussion in three years to this date? Hell I already have some pretty high hopes for Steel Diver.

I am a graphics whore. You don't need to preach to me about aesthetics. If the 3D was 100% perfect with no problems we'd hardly be discussing this at all. Instead, it has many major issues that...

..you know what we've been over this before. You know what I have to say. Why doesn't everyone stop acting like they simply cannot understand this INCOMPREHENSIBLE viewpoint and move on lol

 

[MidnightScott]

Don't worry Amirox, I'm buying 5 games, including Ridge Racer. You aren't the only one. It would be better if it had online play...Namco what were you thinking?

Does anyone think that Namco or any other developer can/will release a patch so we can have online play?

 

[BocoDragon]

Wii version of TP was better. Pointer controls mang.

Though it seemed like Nintendo tried to subtlely sabotage the GC version.

+ Pointer aiming

- Waggle sword control was crappy
- Whole game was mirrored from the original design to give link a right handed sword (that's just weird.. and some parts just don't look right)
- Lack of right stick camera control.. game was bolted behind your back in a step down from Wind Waker

 

[AceBandage]

Don't worry Amirox, I'm buying 5 games, including Ridge Racer. You aren't the only one. It would be better if it had online play...Namco what were you thinking?

Does anyone think that Namco or any other developer can/will release a patch so we can have online play?

For free?
Not a chance in hell.

 

[Truth101]

Well, that's sorta the problem - it does look kinda completely shitty (sub-PSP launch Ridge Racer quality, wtf) and plus most of its content is recycled again.

But I just see Ridge, I see a mostly 60fps game with drifting and slipstreams, and I hear that damn announcer


and...and...I can't help myself. It's one of my gaming weaknesses, like Ace Combat, Paper Mario and Zelda.

I would actually buy it also, but I only have enough money for Steeldiver,Pilotwings, and Nintendogs or Street Fighter...

Though I also want to get the Rabbids and Rayman games....

 

[_Alkaline_]

+ Pointer aiming

- Waggle sword control was crappy
- Whole game was mirrored from the original design to give link a right handed sword (that's just weird.. and some parts just don't look right)
- Lack of right stick camera control.. game was bolted behind your back in a step down from Wind Waker

+ Item select 4 vs 2
+ No framerate issues

 

[Amir0x]

I would actually buy it also, but I only have enough money for Steeldiver,Pilotwings, and Nintendogs or Street Fighter...

Though I also want to get the Rabbids and Rayman games....

I have enough money to buy every game at launch. My money is just actively running away from the launch lineup, as if it were a burning building. Curiously, there was a 50 dollar bill that was alone trying to pull Ridge Racer 3DS from the rubble. It succeeded in saving its life at the last moment.

 

[Cheesemeister]

Can you elaborate a bit more.

Did donkey show have you added already, and that is why his information showed up after you added his code?

Does another players data automatically show up after you add them, so in a later update when messages are enabled you can send someone a message saying you added them?

Or do both people have to exchange codes before either person's data shows up?

He'd already added me, so my registering him completed the bilateral link, allowing our data to be shared. His data showed up automatically after I added him. He didn't see my data until I completed the registration in return.

 

[Vic]

+1h video of SSFIV:3D
http://justin.tv/redsungamer/b/280451288

 

[BocoDragon]

I think 3D will be objectively better for gameplay itself, not just visuals, once we get 3D platformers. Being able to gauge distance intuitively, and hit '?' blocks above you, or land on platforms, without having to watch your character's shadow, etc.

They might even be able to increase the pace of the game, not having to give you so much time to be careful about gauging distances.

 

[Amir0x]

man those backgrounds are so weird without ANY motion. Like someone tossed a time bomb in the square or some shit

you sorta gotta wish there was a looping three frame animation or something of the crowd cheering, old school style

 

[AceBandage]

man those backgrounds are so weird without ANY motion. Like someone tossed a time bomb in the square or some shit

you sorta gotta wish there was a looping three frame animation or something of the crowd cheering, old school style

It is weird.
There's certainly no reason that the backgrounds couldn't have SOME animation, but I guess that's launch rush for you.
Oh well, at least the game is feature rich.

 

[Amir0x]

I think 3D will be objectively better for gameplay itself, not just visuals, once we get 3D platformers. Being able to gauge distance intuitively, and hit '?' blocks above you, or land on platforms, without having to watch your character's shadow, etc.

I mean if the 3D worked without all the drawbacks there'd be those arguments, but it's just not the case though. There's too many fundamental problems that aren't worth the headache. Although the 'strength' here you mention is completely unnecessary for me - I gauge distance instinctively already and can blaze through the absolute hardest of the hardest platforms with relative ease, even without utilizing shadow casting.

In the "imaging 3DS game concept" thread I thought of a specific type of gameplay that might really benefit from the 3D and would be entirely new altogether while leveraging the unique strengths of handheld gaming. But, outside of that I don't see where it'll ever help much in a meaningful way. Flight games is all I can think of.

 

[MidnightScott]

Amir0x - can we make OT's for games now or do we have to wait for the western release? Just wondering.

I really hope Nintendogs, Steel Diver, and Pilotwings aren't the only games Nintendo are releasing between now and June...that would kind of blow I think.

 

[bender]

I think I've talked myself into pre-ordering Samurai Warriors Chronicles. Feel better about your Ridge Racer pre-orders.