Nintendo Banning Switch 2 Consoles using Mig Switch

Kilau said:
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These were dumped legit, which apparently is an important distinction because games dumped on the internet get flagged by Nintendo, so it was the MIG cart itself not the dump.
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My men! You show them!!!!
 
OverHeat said:
You know that's racism's right? Who the fuck do you think you are? Read the code of conduct of the website you are not above it.
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...also not racism as French isn't a race and France is comprised of many different races. Go with xenophobia next time.
 
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diffusionx said:
As mentioned in this thread, if you are breaking copy protection, you are violating the DMCA, unequivocally.

Google's robot AI summarizes it as such:



So it seems like using your backup to play via a pirate cart is still illegal even if backing it up has a carve-out for archival purposes, which it's not totally clear it does.
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So not only did they violate Nintendo's User Agreement, but was possibly doing something illegal that violates the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions? Cooked.
 
Can't wait for cracks to de-brick devices/bring them back online.

There's doing enough to make it difficult for brain dead hacking, but anyone needing to read, research and dig into things more, let them crack it.

Bricking is just loser behaviour and taking your toy away from the group. Losers.
 
Judge: Hacker, I sentence you to life in prison with no chance of parole for volating the terms of service of your Nintendo Switch 2. Do you have any words of remorse for the victims of your heinous crimes?

Hacker: I'm French.
 
For the people defending this, a reminder that when Nintendo closes the Switch 2 servers all Game Card games will be gone forever.
 
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Generic said:
For the people defending this, a reminder that when Nintendo closes the Switch 2 servers all Game Card games will be gone forever.
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you will be long dead by that time. and the same goes for playstation and xbox disc based games that are just keys or require day one patches.

this isn't the age of everything in a cart and nothing else. and it isn't the early days of the internet where if the one server in someones basement goes down everything is lost.
 
RoboFu said:
you will be long dead by that time. and the same goes for playstation and xbox disc based games that are just keys or require day one patches.

this isn't the age of everything in a cart and nothing else. and it isn't the early days of the internet where if the one server in someones basement goes down everything is lost.
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Well, I don't really know what the point of brining up Game Key Carts in the first place was as using the Mig doesn't solve that problem. And while I hope all of you humans are long dead by the time Nintendo shuts down their servers, how far out that is remains to be seen. Nintendo did just shut down the 3DS/Wii U eShop in 2023 which puts the life of those stores at 12-13 years. Sony did reverse the decision to close the Vita/PS3 stores that were originally planned fore 2021, but did go forward with closing down the PSP store. With current systems offering backwards compatibility, that bodes well for extra longevity of modern storefronts, but I'd say Nintendo is the most likely to have a drastic architectural shift that could impact the future of their backwards compatible efforts.
 
Deerock71 said:
So are pirates going to go legal and file a class action lawsuit? Because even if you make legal copies or not, you're in a definite gray area.
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I remember Nintendo imposed a contract of sorts recently that stated continued use of their digital games meant you had to agree to forego litigation regarding said games if you live in the US. Shitty thing to force their customers to do in order to keep accessing games they already paid for.
 
mistuhcahlos said:
I remember Nintendo imposed a contract of sorts recently that stated continued use of their digital games meant you had to agree to forego litigation regarding said games if you live in the US. Shitty thing to force their customers to do in order to keep accessing games they already paid for.
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What pirate tries their luck with a mig cart online? One that's not too smARRRt.
 
bender said:
Well, I don't really know what the point of brining up Game Key Carts in the first place was as using the Mig doesn't solve that problem. And while I hope all of you humans are long dead by the time Nintendo shuts down their servers, how far out that is remains to be seen. Nintendo did just shut down the 3DS/Wii U eShop in 2023 which puts the life of those stores at 12-13 years. Sony did reverse the decision to close the Vita/PS3 stores that were originally planned fore 2021, but did go forward with closing down the PSP store. With current systems offering backwards compatibility, that bodes well for extra longevity of modern storefronts, but I'd say Nintendo is the most likely to have a drastic architectural shift that could impact the future of their backwards compatible efforts.
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Not purposely trying to add to the tangent, but in the case of those closures you can still redownload purchased games and get updates/patches. You just can't make a new purchases.

I'm not a fan of key cards or any non-physical format, but also don't think that everyone is going to lose all their purchases in the near enough future where that should be the driving concern. The bigger issue is requiring internet to initially download the game and having storage capacity to hold the games which ultimately leads to lower resale value that the purchaser can expect back.
 
Walter Matthau said:
Not purposely trying to add to the tangent, but in the case of those closures you can still redownload purchased games and get updates/patches. You just can't make a new purchases.

I'm not a fan of key cards or any non-physical format, but also don't think that everyone is going to lose all their purchases in the near enough future where that should be the driving concern. The bigger issue is requiring internet to initially download the game and having storage capacity to hold the games which ultimately leads to lower resale value that the purchaser can expect back.
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That's a good point. I'll probably never buy one, but I am a fan of the concepts of the game key cart. It allows a license to be transferred so that's a benefit to the end user. It allows Nintendo to keep a retail presence which is a benefit to themselves, retailers and publishers. It gives publishers a low cost option for physical media as opposed to having to buy some storage amount and still require a download. There are a lot of games released these days that have constant patches (like SF6) that just don't make sense to have written on traditional physical media. My biggest problem with the implementation is that I think Nintendo should have disallowed codes in a box (THPS3+4) as that just confused the market. Retailers like BestBuy already sell digital codes for games, including Nintendo games.
 
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Yeah, what do they think was going to happen? Specially on month 1. They will go feral on their asses. Well, he still has his Switch 2 tho, besides online services of Nintendo are usually not that great and/or expensive af.
 
El Muerto said:
It's perfectly legal to backup your software. The reason why the MIG Switch is still for sale is because you can backup your owned games, it's not aimed towards piracy like the R4 DS. Yes some use it for piracy and they will get banned. But those using their own backups have not been banned when using it on the Switch 1. There are 2 unique key files for every cartridge. If people download the key files like in a torrent, and Nintendo sees that key file on 2 Switch consoles at the same time, then that results in a ban.

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The point I was making - my last line, where did it get him? Obviously he hasn't got 'perfectly legal dumps' so needs to stop bleating about how he has been done wrong if I read what you've said because if they were perfectly legal he wouldn't have been banned.
 
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being banned like this is pretty bad since you can't even transfer your hacked save data from your switch 1 anymore.

you also can't play any physical game key card anymore. if there's a switch 2 game key card only game then RIP, since the mig can only play switch 1 game
 
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The important question here is, now that the console is banned, can the owner still download games from the cartridges that are license/key only?
Blocking the ability to download "physical games" bought legally would affect the usability of the console and would encourage hackers to go for a jailbreak sooner than later.
 
I think it's fair to ban from online play any device that can run modified ROMs because it opens the way for hacked online which was all over the place back in the 3DS era. If you've played MK7 you know.

If the console is still usable offline then that answer seems proportionate on Nintendo's side.
 
Chukhopops said:
I think it's fair to ban from online play any device that can run modified ROMs because it opens the way for hacked online which was all over the place back in the 3DS era. If you've played MK7 you know.

If the console is still usable offline then that answer seems proportionate on Nintendo's side.
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No one was playing modified ROMs online. That's not even possible.
 
baphomet said:
No one was playing modified ROMs online. That's not even possible.
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On 3DS and Wii? Hacking was absolutely rampant online because a lot of the game logic was handled client-side. There was no way to report people online either.

At some point you'd have at least one in every lobby especially on Wii.
 
existensmaximum said:
Lots of imbecile little children too, who believe that companies are charities controlled by democracy, for "the fans". And that their IPs are public domain or something.
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I would like some citations on that, bud. Meanwhile corporate boot licking drones here are defending Nintendo shutting down a whole device just because someone made a backup of his own games. I hope you all have stocks in Nintendo, because otherwise you're just suckers.
 
Reading this thread is embarrassing. You really are going to gobble up everything your favourite corporation is gonna do to you, uh.

At this point just remove your pants and bend over.
 
Chukhopops said:
On 3DS and Wii? Hacking was absolutely rampant online because a lot of the game logic was handled client-side. There was no way to report people online either.

At some point you'd have at least one in every lobby especially on Wii.
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This thread has nothing to do with Wii or 3DS.
 
Back in the NES and SNES days Nintendo themselves sold blank cartridges that could hold a few games at once.
Mig cart is no different.
As long as you use your own dumps you shouldn't be banned from anything
 
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