Mr. Bamboo
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Aww, I wish that was a thing, or E3 stickers. I'm not sure how it would work, but it just sounds fun.
Nintendo E3 2014 - discussion thread for their E3 plans
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Aww, I wish that was a thing, or E3 stickers. I'm not sure how it would work, but it just sounds fun.
nckillthegrimace
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I pretty much agree. The problem is that they keep wiping the slate clean after every 3D release and then going back to Ocarina as the starting point. Fix things that don't work instead of throwing them in the garbage. There are kernels of great ideas buried in things that don't work. They just need to let them grow.
Like with ALBW, that's a game for old people and I hate it, but it still has interesting things that can be harvested from its carcass. Like the item rental and non-linearity. The way it was implemented did not work at all because it severely simplified dungeon design, but it raises some cool possibilities. Why not start with a handful of weapons? Why not put dungeons in tiers (like do these three in any order then the next three in any order then the last two in any order)?
Personally, I love Skyward Sword, and I think they should continue down that path. I really like the idea of having a central town and then discrete, super intricate field areas. Just get rid of the open world part because it slows the game down. Steal Metroid's structure. Obviously, not everyone liked SS, but they need to refine, not throw everything away.
As for the new stuff Aonuma mentioned last January, I think multiplayer is going to be a straight ripoff of the Souls games where you can summon other players to help you. It's the next evolution of the "super guide" concept, but it feels less patronizing. To facilitate this feature, I'd imagine there would have to be some degree of character customization in order to differentiate characters. Maybe they'll let players choose their gender? Nintendo seems to be way into playable female characters on the Wii U.
Everything I mentioned in the above paragraph would be a huge change for the franchise, but it doesn't mess with the core of what has worked since OoT. It's a way to keep things fresh without pissing off the people who want a realistic, down-to-earth game that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots.
StreetsAhead
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Well, in the case of Mario Kart 8 they're both credited as Executive/General Producer, which is standard for their roles. I agree on the Stan Lee thing.
I agree his name is associated with hype, I just don't expect him to be at the helm of a game in a significant way in his currently position.
Smiles and Cries
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It's not XG, but...:
man hope this is gameplay and not a cutscene
It's not XG, but...:
Psyche out! I never even noticed that shot...
Unfortunately no numbers, so probably a cutty.
MisterGrey3000
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Great post.
I agree, I don't really need modern Zelda to redefine itself in every new generation. Especially when it takes 5 or so years to get our hands on these damn things.
Though to be honest, I think every console Zelda game has been of exceptional quality so far(With twilight princess being at the very top.) I don't really mind them experimenting when they make such good games.
I think Skyward Sword just seems more divisive than it really is. It scored just as high as ALBW did on Metacritic(a bit higher actually.), and I remember hearing "Best Zelda in years!" from more than a few outlets. Maybe Skyward Sword detractors are just louder about their distaste for the game than ALBW detractors. :/
This happened to both Majora's Mask and Wind Waker, my friend. :/
Well, that'd be strange considering the first teaser had nothing but gameplay footage (minus the bit with Shulk's clone). It does make you wonder how mech cockpit over-the-shoulder third-person shooting is going to work in a supped-up version of Xenoblade's battle system, though. I wonder what else they have up their sleaves?
foxuzamaki
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I didnt notice that! Dat attention to detail, dat nintendo polish
I've never seen that but it's almost exactly how I used to imagine it lol
Zelda has taken inspiration before , Twilight Princess was inspired by Lord of the Rings and Skyward Sword had that loftwing to rider connection kinda like Avatar. Now as much as I would like it to happen Game of thrones is a little to dark and gritty for Zelda, though they could bring the whole diversity of cultures aspect to it, they can also take inspiration from the locales like Bravos or the magnificent Eyrie castle, the whole war between nations thing is a little too complicated for Zelda imo
Which means...they didn't skip OoT or TP. Which means literally half the fanbase won't buy if it doesn't look like a serious new addition to the series. Lol.
Nintendo has to have realized that by now. I expect the Zelda U to look like it's a "serious" addition while hopefully going crazy with new game mechanics.
Honestly, I just want to hear an awesome new game mechanic that is well integrated into the game's "core." The boats, birds, wolves and trains don't cut it at all for me. I wanna see time manipulation, gravity manipulation or more space/wall merging mechanics. Something that can completely alter the gameplay and narrative in a more meaningful way.
Majora's Mask is probably the best example of a new game mechanic completely changing the way the story and gameplay work out. If Zelda U is serious with Miiverse, I could see that being a pretty cool new mechanic too. Or maybe another dual world mechanic where the gamepad and TV show different worlds...
Kissenkopf
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What?? Lol..never was Avatar an inspiration for Skyward Sword.
But I'm with you with LotR and TP.
Zelda shouldn't take inspiration from new series or movies...it should take some inspiration from old books like them from Brother Grimm. Dark and brutal but with heart.
The_Intruder
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It's not XG, but...:
Maybe it's what will we see on the gamepad when we will be in flying mode, wait what? Too much belief?
I'm not saying flat out inspired by it but
You dont find that Link jumping to catch the loftwing mid air and the whole special loftwing connection to its rider a little reminiscent of Avatar
bequietdrive
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Either that or the Wii U's third party situation is so dire that FAST racing gets a centre position in the Digital Event.
chaosblade
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It would sure be nice if it impressed Nintendo enough for that to happen. FAST showed promise, hopefully the new game builds on it well.
bequietdrive
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If the game is good it doesn't really matter either way - we'll enjoy it. I do feel that Nintendo really need to use the MK hype to court as many third parties as possible, although hopefully they already have.
Benzychenz
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What if Nintendo gets so desperate that they take the Hyrule Warriors thing to the next level and let EA make the next Mario game?
D:
Herb Alpert
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Third parties probably do not even consider the possibility to think about the opportunity to perhaps try to port their games to the WiiU.
That boat sailed and isn't likely coming back. I hope to at least see more third party collaborations though, whether it's with an established Nintendo IP like Hyrule Warriors or something like The Wonderful 101.
Me too, but i really dont care. Its not like third parties are shining anywhere right now
Rockstar still are.
Not possible. GTA5 is absolutely incredible. Anyone who says otherwise is officially too jaded, and should probably take a break.
Canis lupus
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Almost one year passed and GTA V is still praised. It's not like IV, V is actually a really great game.
All of those games are destined to not do well on a Nintendo console because Nintendo's audience is completely different. The 3rd party support, AKA Triple A western games, won't come back until 21-34 year old white males who enjoy shooters come back to Nintendo.
And I don't think that's going to happen...like ever again.
And I don't think that's going to happen...like ever again.
Except the ones that are still buddy-buddy with Nintendo, most of which are Japanese (sans, to an extent, Activision, Ubisoft, & WB Games).
The thing is that 3rd party support doesn't only consist of shooters. There's plenty of 3rd party games that have overlap with Nintendo audience but still don't come to Nintendo platforms. I'm not convinced that shooters are somehow fundamentally incapable of performing well on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo just needs to show the way here.
It has nothing to do with being good "buddies" with other publishers. It has everything to do with making sure your platform is a realistic choice to invest in.
If Nintendo going is to do more collaborations they should look at the western market more so far all the collabs have been with Japanese devs and that's fine by me but the reality is western games are dominating the industry right now and key collaborations with western devs Now, will help them when they release their next console
MisterGrey3000
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Can you list off any of these games that fit in Nintendo's ecosystem, but didn't come to the WiiU? I'm not trying to jump on you haha, I'm just really curious.
Or even better, create content that resonates with the audience of said platform.
But alas, "we don't make kids games" - EA guy
From Koji Igarashi's facebook.
Anyone know what he's saying? 99.9% sure this is just him being excited about E3 as a gamer, but a decent translation would be nice.
Let's see this get overblown and making headlines on news sites, speculating that the Symphony of the Night 2 rumour was true!
So not even a week after Iwata firmly claims he will NOT kill the Wii U to not disappoint the fans who actually bought it, Polygon has this to say:
There's even a "console gaming is dead" proclaim stuck in there... after the PS4 and Xbox One sold 7 Million and 5 Million respectively. In less than 6 months.
There's even a "console gaming is dead" proclaim stuck in there... after the PS4 and Xbox One sold 7 Million and 5 Million respectively. In less than 6 months.
I'd say Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts have a good chance finding an audience on Nintendo systems.
Well some examples to give you an idea of games I think would be a good fit on a Nintendo platform for one reason or another but won't be there:
Beyond Good & Evil 2
Valiant Hearts: The Great War
Mirror's Edge 2
Soul Calibur series vanished from Nintendo platforms after SCII that performed well
Minecraft (Can't stress enough how important or useful this title would have been for Wii U early on)
Just to give you some idea behind what I'm talking about here. You could argue that games like Mirror's Edge 2 won't be on Wii U simply because it's aimed at more powerful platforms but if only it was so simple. Nintendo's woes would be much simpler. That said I want to say that I think any game can do well on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo just has to leverage their strength that is 1st party development and lead the way.
The thing is... Nintendo can't expect a special treatment like that if they have a platform with an install base of 6 million give or take. Yeah there was also Wii and I agree there was many lost chances on that platform.
I recommend that everyone reads this good post by Amir0x on this subject.
Slow news day, gotta write something random?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Just gonna guess and say he might be excited for 2 3DS announcements and that they aren't related to him at all.
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Infrastructure on Wii U is much different then the ones on X1 and PS4 thus 3rd parties can't make ports rather easily and would have to develop for Wii U from the ground up, which I guess is a big turnoff because reasons.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Lol.
You know what'd be great? X turns out to enable local two-player mode where one person controls the Doll movement on the TV screen with a Pro controller while another one, with that POV on the gamepad, handles the shooting with gyro aiming.
Didn't he quit Konami? If a website begins to circulate rumors about him and Castlevania it would be weird seeing as he has no attachment to it anymore...but what am I talking about, of course they would still speculate that! PRE-ORDER TIME!!
That would be nice actually. I miss RPG having two player option
I remember playing FF VI with a friend, he would control two of the characters while I control the other two. 'HEAL ME DAMN IT!!'...good times.Kind of reminds me a bit of Need for Speed 'co-op' but a bit more engage of course. Not sure if that would be to taxing on the system as it would need to generate a cockpit view and a 3rd person view simultaneously.
Well, since IGA left Konami, he certainly wouldn't be making the game.
Yup, that's Ben Kuchera.
Btw, where's the translated Q&A session from the meeting? I was hoping it'd be up by now.
ErrorMacro
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Great post!
For a franchise everyone complains of being too "formulaic", Zelda changes a lot between each iteration. It changes so much that they end up losing the opportunity to refine the good aspects of past entries, and remove/change the bad ones.
TheSlySoul
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That would be Ubisoft, WB Games, and Square-Enix I would say.
However, yeah, Nintendo has done way too much damage since the N64 days to get back third-party. It used to be true that Nintendo could sell a system based on their games alone (N64 and GC), but it is less true now with Wii U. Wii is the odd one out because it sold like hot cakes and all developers wanted some of those users. The rise of smartphone also hurt the library of the 3DS since it gave third-party a platform to put games on. We will probably never see any high profile EA game on a Nintendo system anymore unless it is by Popcap.
I stick by Nintendo though because they have been on a roll as of late. Not on the hype train, but I am hoping the direct is more exciting than last year. I would love Kid Icarus HD for Wii U that fixes the control issues.
Edit: I agree with AniHawk. The problem is they reinvent Zelda without realizing what made the series fun. LBW both changed up the formula and kept the core mechanics of what made 2D Zelda fun. Hopefully they will learn this with the next 3D game.
"Journalism" at its best.
Can we ban all major news sites for being click bait pieces of shit?
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