SJRB
Gold Member
Dude what
How does that even work? And how much storage did they set apart for this?
Nintendo reserves the right to brick your console following "unauthorised use", in bid to prevent piracy (Sony Too)
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Dude what
How does that even work? And how much storage did they set apart for this?
ReyBrujo
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The language in the new TOS makes it sound as if that's still an alternative, "may result" and "unusable in whole or in part". Nintendo already banned a shitton of Switch and another shitton of card ids. Not being able to play any game would be something new, though, which is something any console maker probably wants to do (Sony already does something similar with bluray players, if your license was extracted they would revoke your player's certificate and it would not be able to play any new BD ever again). My guess, though, is that it's boilerplate so that you can't complain that you got your console banned and can no longer play any game key cartridge.
So that you can report people showing you their dicks with the camera in online playing?
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MandingoMcThickens
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non issue for me
Sinozen
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>Spends $500+ on a console and $80 games
>Gets deactivated
>Not a bad thing
Bro. Come on. They can deactivate for any reason they want. It could be a mistake. You don't own your stuff and they have no good will about anything as a company. It is objectively not a good thing.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
How are they going to achieve this, if their online system is in the stone age today?
That wouldn't stop me, I would buy an asus rog ally x and pirate their games.
They are still egocentric and I forget about physical games and i will hack and emulate their games... that way I save more money.
That wouldn't stop me, I would buy an asus rog ally x and pirate their games.
They are still egocentric and I forget about physical games and i will hack and emulate their games... that way I save more money.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The worst part is not being able to have a class action lawsuit. Say Sony overcharge every PSN+ account in the US $5, that's tens of millions of dollars in overcharges. With just the possibility of a class action suing them for lets say $50 million they will fix that shit quickly even for the people who didnt notice or bother to complain. But if everyone has to individually go to arbitration to get their $5 back there is zero real pressure for them to do anything. They would probably have to repay $1000 of that $50 million.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I only mod my systems long after they've passed into being legacy... eg. I have a modded 3DS, and now a modded Wii as well, but modding a current system is asking for trouble, kind of like when Yuzu made a huge profit off of pirating emulation on current gen.
Let modding/flashcarts/emulation stay retro, and they won't ever bother us. But cheap pirating assholes who mod/emulate on current gen are making unnecessary enemies of the company with all emulation and modding.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I was able to hack my Nintendo 3DS, and I dared to connect online and I never had problems xD.
Knightime_X
Member
There is always a reason.>Spends $500+ on a console and $80 games
>Gets deactivated
>Not a bad thing
Bro. Come on. They can deactivate, it can be for any reason they want. It could be a mistake. You don't own your stuff and they have no good will about anything as a company. It is objectively not a good thing.
Nobody ever gets "banned for no reason" they're always hiding facts and truth.
literally every time
Sinozen
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I said any reason meaning it's at Nintendo's discretion. It doesn't have to be limited to piracy or cheating.
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Hudo
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All companies are heavily anti-consumer, if you let them. Nintendo is no exception. Which is why I never understood this fanboying for companies that a lot of retards do online.
Knightime_X
Member
Well, lets see what they mean by that.
Like later on when they go into detail.
But personally, I'm not worried. I don't do anything to remotely warrant any such action.
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Magic Carpet
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Can we take the Bricked Switch to local Gamestop/Bestbuy and get our money back? They could unbrick it and resell it used.
VGEsoterica
Member
and before you yell clickbait or fear mongering...here is the text from the EULA
"...You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part."
so sure...like usual you could lose access to the online portion / Nintendo account portion...but as of today it also states "applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable IN WHOLE"
translation: we can brick your new console
and even if you never do anything you SHOULDN'T....just wait until you buy a used game that someone DID do something "bad" with and you pop it in your Switch 2 and the telemetry data pings the server
"...You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part."
so sure...like usual you could lose access to the online portion / Nintendo account portion...but as of today it also states "applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable IN WHOLE"
translation: we can brick your new console
and even if you never do anything you SHOULDN'T....just wait until you buy a used game that someone DID do something "bad" with and you pop it in your Switch 2 and the telemetry data pings the server
playbignbox
Member
Great, anyone who has a modded console can enjoy it offline, away from the official servers, as I don't want hackers in the games I play online.
BlackTron
Member
Okay Dad. What push me over the edge to get a modded Switch was TOTK. I honestly thought that year was the Switch's last legs, and the first thing I did with it was insert my real TOTK cart to play on a Mariko overclocked.
WITHOUT INTERNET.
seething left
Member
I don't think this will work in the EU, where jailbreaking is legal. Modifying my console doesn't mean I'm gonna pirate games. EULA basically still means shit here and Nintendo can gargle my balls.
Also people justifying this and siding with Nintendo are fucking retards and are the reason we have all the bad things in the world.
Also people justifying this and siding with Nintendo are fucking retards and are the reason we have all the bad things in the world.
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Soodanim
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I thought all these EULAs meant nothing in court because you've already handed over money by the time you get to them.
Maybe that doesn't apply quite so much to online play, but if you buy a console but don't agree to the license terms what does the retailer you bought it from do? I'd wager that no retailer has a plan in place for that and would probably deny a refund of an open box console.
Maybe that doesn't apply quite so much to online play, but if you buy a console but don't agree to the license terms what does the retailer you bought it from do? I'd wager that no retailer has a plan in place for that and would probably deny a refund of an open box console.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
new games could detect and brick a jailbroken console, if nintendo wanted to go down that route
rubik's dude
Member
Accessories could do that too I suppose.
Going down this rabbit hole further, if Nintendo used their games to install system bricking malware, people with jailbroken consoles could use modified ISOs with the malware removed. But if they put the malware in the accessories too, only third party accessories would be safe to use. I wonder how else after that they could enforce it.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Joycon bricks your console then immediately develops stick drift.
PUNKem733
Member
Oh that I agree with. ALL companies are POS entities that are all about draining you, while making sure they can't get in trouble to the best of their abilities, while they fuck you. But Nintendo seems a special kind of POS evil thing. These fuckers will sue 8 year olds who make a tribute vid with their IPs involved.
ValiantTraveler
Member
Pirate their games on a Steam Deck or PC. Go brick that Nintendo.
No BBC=Anger
Member
''Encouragement'' to upgrade to current gen. It's been 3 years citizen.
Eula as a whole are a mess, terms like this might well already be illegal under current law, but they have to be brought to trial
This shit should be illegal.
VGEsoterica
Member
Drifting joycons detected…modded! Console ban! lol
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Although I won't and will not pirate on a console, I do not think that Nintendo should have any legal claim to what someone does with their console once it's been sold. It's yours to do with as you want, so long as you're not literally hacking into Nintendo servers, or stealing money from them, i.e. illegally downloading pirated games onto the console. I'm all for modding/hacking, any other way you wish. If it breaks your console, well, hack/ jailbreak at your own risk. Personally, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Sinozen
Member
Nintendo is an overtly litigious company. They're going to write their terms to entirely favor themselves. They've proven they have no goodwill towards their consumers these days. What you and many others fail to understand is that the precedence alone opens up mistakes happening. You may not do something to warrant it, but it could still happen to you. Or perhaps you do warrant it because their terms are so ridiculous. Nintendo is nothing but bad news and yet people want to give them a pass for everything.
BbMajor7th
Member
Imagine you went out and bought yourself an electric saw and it says on the box, 'designed for wood and plastic only, do not use on metals', but you're a smart cookie and you know that'll it'll be fine cutting something soft like copper. So you switch the blade cut a bunch of pipe for a plumbing project and - hey presto - it works like a charm.
The next day you go to fire up the saw and it's dead. You call the manufacturer and they explain it was used to cut metal against the instruction of the manufacturer and they reserve the right to brick it if you violated their instructions.
I daresay you'd be pretty pissed off and so would I. Companies selling you things that they can remotely disable at their discretion is a big heap of shit, be it a games console, a power saw or anything else. At that stage they're running a rental service.
Lionel Richie
Member
I obviously can't speak for the entire world, but if they indeed do that here in glorious BR they're getting sued out the ass.
Musashipan
Member
I hope they do. They should keep it secret tho, and brick all the criminal pirates consoles
Or if you use an unauthorized 3rd party accessory and your ass gets banned
ReBurn
Gold Member
What's scary is that this doesn't seem all that far fetched...
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
It's a form of control that shouldn't be there.
Period.
awwr999999
Member
Permanently banning your account would be the bigger issue - it's something Nintendo doesn't want and can't afford.
A user could easily have thousands of dollars worth of games accumulated over years attached to an account.
Nintendo makes their real money via active user accounts and can't ban users.
A bricked console, OTOH, can be replaced relatively cheaply and users can regain access to their valuable libraries.
Bricking a console for tampering will discourage tampering and could slow down or halt reverse engineering.
In terms of physical tampering it wouldn't be unrealistic for a modern device to brick itself just by virtue of being opened up.
I've bricked iPods just by trying to fix them and a console could be easily engineered to break when opened.
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