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[BlastProcessing]

Nintendo had designed everything about the switch. Then tension sleeves are hideous. Its sad they skimped on the the adapter, though it isnt a biggie

Every cable I have ever used with this style of tension sleeve has never failed me. I've had plenty of cables with prettier sleeves or no sleeves at all fray and short on me. From where I'm sitting, the adapter is pretty well designed.

 

[runnin_blue]

EDIT: nvm, already said.

 

[KodaRuss]

Be glad they included one.

No kidding...

This is a little frustrating because I am not sure how I am going to fit it in my power strip now, might have to get a bigger one or use a different adapter like some have said.

 

[corn_fest]

Really?

That part comes off at the seam so you can use a sensible cord instead, though.

 

[blu]

That part comes off at the seam so you can use a sensible cord instead, though.

I guess, but I've never seen anybody use one of those with a cable.

 

[ImNotLikeThem]

Are people really still thinking/debating that this thing is a huge wall wart like the NES/SNES/(whatever else from the 80s and 90s) plugs?

It's not this type of thing at all

It's really no different than a lot of phone chargers. Right from amazon it has product dimensions including packaging:
Product Dimensions 1.8 x 3.4 x 7.4 inches
That's not very big.

 

[Diablohead]

Never really had this issue in the uk as nearly all of our extension plug sockets are turned 90 degrees so that screenshot from AVGN never happens.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Are people really still thinking/debating that this thing is a huge wall wart like the NES/SNES/(whatever else from the 80s and 90s) plugs?

It's not this type of thing at all

It's really no different than a lot of phone chargers. Right from amazon it has product dimensions including packaging:
Product Dimensions 1.8 x 3.4 x 7.4 inches
That's not very big.

It's about the same size as this:

And I can tell you that plug does obstruct other plugs on a power strip.

 

[goldenpp72]

So this isn't the same adapter that comes with the Switch console right, does that mean the cord that comes with it can't charge it without the dock?

 

[psyfi]

okay

just let me play Zelda

 

[Marty Chinn]

So this isn't the same adapter that comes with the Switch console right, does that mean the cord that comes with it can't charge it without the dock?

It is the same adapter. You can charge it with or without the dock.

 

[fernoca]

It may be bigger than others, but not as big as some are trying to make it. And at least it's plugged sideways, so it shouldn't obstruct others.

Though I don't know why some equate size with antiquated or behind times.

 

[Marty Chinn]

It may be bigger than others, but not as big as some are trying to make it. And at least it's plugged sideways, so it shouldn't obstruct others.

Though I don't know why some equate size with antiquated or behind times.

Vertically, that's going to block two plugs below it unless it's the last on a vertical strip. Horizontally it's going to block a plug on either side of it. The reason for complaining is the fact that it blocks plugs. It would have be super huge to block more than two plugs so the size doesn't really matter once it has blocked those two plugs. That is the reason people aren't pleased with the design.

 

[Version 3.0]

That's terrible design, because If the prongs were oriented differently it looks like it might only take up one space.

But, years ago, I got some big power strips with sideways outlets expressly for dealing with all my consoles' power bricks. If they started making the bricks themselves sideways, that would split the problem into 2 problems and really fuck shit up.

This is fine. I hate power bricks as much as the next guy - my favorite AVGN episode is the 32X one where he goes off about it - but every other electronic device has one of the damn things. I'll deal with it.

 

[fernoca]

Vertically, that's going to block two plugs below it unless it's the last on a vertical strip. Horizontally it's going to block a plug on either side of it. The reason for complaining is the fact that it blocks plugs. It would have be super huge to block more than two plugs so the size doesn't really matter once it has blocked those two plugs. That is the reason people aren't pleased with the design.

It shouldn't block any horizontally as it looks as those that could be plugged at either way. Don't know the name of when one is bigger than the other and you can only plug it one way.

And while I get the complaint around blocking plugs, as I noted what I don't get is the assumption that the size is "so Nintendo" or even antiquated.

It may not be convenient, but is not some old technology or sign of Nintendo not going with advances in technology.

 

[kuroneko0509]

not really related to the ac adapter size... but does anyone knows if switch ac adapter is 100-240V everywhere or it's still based on which region it's sold?

 

[Marty Chinn]

It shouldn't block any horizontally as it looks as those that could be plugged at either way. Don't know the name of when one is bigger than the other and you can only plug it one way.

But it does because it's too wide and bleeds into the space of the next plug on either side. It's the reason why the one at the end exists because normally it would be hindered by something like the Switch's AC adapter.

And while I get the complaint around blocking plugs, as I noted what I don't get is the assumption that the size is "so Nintendo" or even antiquated.

It may not be convenient, but is not some old technology or sign of Nintendo not going with advances in technology.

I think people consider it antiquated because you have to go way back to find a system that uses such an adapter. PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, Xbox One, Xbox 360, Xbox, Dreamcast, Saturn, Wii U, Wii, GameCube, and N64 all have normal plugs that don't obstruct. You have to go back to the SNES or the Genesis to find a plug like the Switch. That was over 20 years ago. Some people on this board weren't even born yet.

 

[runnin_blue]

But it does because it's too wide and bleeds into the space of the next plug on either side. It's the reason why the one at the end exists because normally it would be hindered by something like the Switch's AC adapter.





I think people consider it antiquated because you have to go way back to find a system that uses such an adapter. PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, Xbox One, Xbox 360, Xbox, Dreamcast, Saturn, Wii U, Wii, GameCube, and N64 all have normal plugs that don't obstruct. You have to go back to the SNES or the Genesis to find a plug like the Switch. That was over 20 years ago. Some people on this board weren't even born yet.

You conveniently left out GBA/DS/3DS. The Switch is portable. I know I'd rather lug around a DS style cord like this, rather than a console-style inline power brick.

For starters, when you are playing portable mode and plugged in to the AC and you stand up or move around, you won't have a heavy brick dangling halfway down the cord, bending and yanking out the connection to the switch, 'cause the brick will be attached to the socket.

But hey, let's keep complaining.

 

[ReConstructDead]

Slightly off topic... But do you guys think the Wii/Wii U LAN adapter will work on the Switch as well?

 

[frankie_baby]

Slightly off topic... But do you guys think the Wii/Wii U LAN adapter will work on the Switch as well?

Hasn't been explicitly confirmed but it should do

 

[ReConstructDead]

Hasn't been explicitly confirmed but it should do

I guess I'll just wait for impressions and not buy a Switch adapter for now, thanks!

 

[SuperSonic1305]

okay

just let me play Zelda

You can do that on a Wii U with a normal sized plug.

 

[Spukc]

Guys do you know if the joycon charged handle comes with an adapter ?

Or do i need to keep swapping my charging cradle ?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

You can do that on a Wii U with a normal sized plug.

What of switch?

 

[BlastProcessing]

Guys do you know if the joycon charged handle comes with an adapter ?

Or do i need to keep swapping my charging cradle ?

I would bet it comes with a longish USB cable that could be plugged into the Dock.

 

[random25]

Just to note, this is what Bestbuy.com Website shows about the Nintendo brand Switch AC Adapter physical size. It does not list additional information about the length of cord or other details.

It's about the same size as this:

And I can tell you that plug does obstruct other plugs on a power strip.

From the image on the box of the Nintendo Switch adapter, it is much smaller than the ones given by Best Buy or the NVidia one. Like half the size.

 

[wanders]

Every cable I have ever used with this style of tension sleeve has never failed me. I've had plenty of cables with prettier sleeves or no sleeves at all fray and short on me. From where I'm sitting, the adapter is pretty well designed.

You're right. Design doesn't end at aesthetics. I'm just saying that the adapter was a bit of a compromise. Like they just went and got some generic oem let instead of designing it in house. And how do we know this won't fray just like other cables; we're not gonna know for sure until it's out

 

[blame space]

i say this as someone with limited space on his surge protector and is getting a switch

but holy shit i don't care

 

[Hinchy]

So does anyone know of a USB-C charger out there that can do 15V/2.6A?
Would like to use my own length USB-C cables instead of being tethered to the wall wart, and I'd like to leave the wall wart tethered to my dock anyway.

 

[nikos]

Wonder if I'll be able to use my MacBook Pro's 87w USB-C power adapter. As long as the Switch draws power, rather than being given power, it should be safe.

 

[Dr. Black Jack]

Slightly off topic... But do you guys think the Wii/Wii U LAN adapter will work on the Switch as well?

There's no technical reason why it wouldn't AFAIK, nonspecific Ethernet-to-USB adapters worked with the Wii/Wii U fine.

 

[Qassim]

Guys, laptops are beginning to use USB-C to charge too these days - there will be (and are) chargers that'll provide enough power for the switch safely.

 

[Matt]

I think people consider it antiquated because you have to go way back to find a system that uses such an adapter. PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, Xbox One, Xbox 360, Xbox, Dreamcast, Saturn, Wii U, Wii, GameCube, and N64 all have normal plugs that don't obstruct. You have to go back to the SNES or the Genesis to find a plug like the Switch. That was over 20 years ago. Some people on this board weren't even born yet.

Dude, we covered this yesterday. It's the way it is for legitimate design reasons, same as cell phone or tablet chargers. It's not antiquated.

 

[Mexen]

NP Kanye West - Power

 

[sugarless]

If anything, the nature of the AC adaptor as being in line with 3DS size but not like typical console ones with small plugs and mid-cable power bricks just makes me feel even more that this is a handheld which happens to do TV out, rather than a console that has a portable mode.

 

[Sir Abacus]

Wonder if I'll be able to use my MacBook Pro's 87w USB-C power adapter. As long as the Switch draws power, rather than being given power, it should be safe.

Maybe. The answer is maybe. The 87W USB-C power adapter has three profiles, 20V@4.35A, 9V@3A and 5V@2.4A. The Switch uses a 15V input nominally. If it'll take a 20V power profile it'll work. If it'll take a 9V profile, it'll probably work but the battery may charge slowly or continue to run down as the typical power draw during charging is ~30-40 watts and you'd only be giving it 27W.

Fingers crossed it has decent USB-PD support but the Apple 87W charger does not support a 15V profile.

 

[jooso]

So is the Switch truly region free? Can I use an american Switch in Europe with the same power cord and a travel adapter?

 

[Wolfgang Jr]

So is the Switch truly region free? Can I use an american Switch in Europe with the same power cord and a travel adapter?

Yeah, that's not what region free means

 

[jooso]

Yeah, that's not what region free means

Oh really, I had no idea. I have a trip to the states coming up and I was just wondering if the Switch supports both american and european voltages. I'd rather not fry a 300 dollar console.

 

[BGBW]

Weird people think they'll not even be able to plug this next to another plug when it can quite clearly can from the picture on the box.

Almost tempted to do an avatar bet that I can plug it next to another plug ha ha

 

[jts]

Oh really, I had no idea. I have a trip to the states coming up and I was just wondering if the Switch supports both american and european voltages. I'd rather not fry a 300 dollar console.

I think you’ll be fine, the power brick is external anyway. The console just takes that USB-C power, the same in every continent.

We can’t confirm yet if the brick itself is universal, but you should be able to charge it sloooowly over regular USB if it isn’t.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Dude, we covered this yesterday. It's the way it is for legitimate design reasons, same as cell phone or tablet chargers. It's not antiquated.

Where did I say it wasn't a legitimate design decision? I'm explaining why people feel it's antiquated. From a console perspective, and comparing it to other consoles, it can be viewed as antiquated by comparison.

From the image on the box of the Nintendo Switch adapter, it is much smaller than the ones given by Best Buy or the NVidia one. Like half the size.

There's no way it's half the size of the Nvidia adapter.

You conveniently left out GBA/DS/3DS. The Switch is portable. I know I'd rather lug around a DS style cord like this, rather than a console-style inline power brick.

For starters, when you are playing portable mode and plugged in to the AC and you stand up or move around, you won't have a heavy brick dangling halfway down the cord, bending and yanking out the connection to the switch, 'cause the brick will be attached to the socket.

But hey, let's keep complaining.

I left them out because I was comparing it to consoles. For many people, they're going to plug the adapter into the dock and then the Switch into the dock to charge. When you're looking at it from a console perspective, and trying to fit it into a home theater setup, it's less than ideal in design. I could also throw in the Vita and the PSP both which didn't use the same style adapter too and people used those just fine.

 

[mrhyderager]

Nintendo is never leaving the 90s baby.

In the 90s the AC adapters were included. It's looking like that's not the case here? The hell, Nintendo?

 

[BGBW]

In the 90s the AC adapters were included. It's looking like that's not the case here? The hell, Nintendo?

The Switch comes with an AC adapter.

 

[mrhyderager]

The Switch comes with an AC adapter.

Thank you. I'm still feeling burned over the 3DS.

 

[AlfonzoPalutena]

So is the Switch truly region free? Can I use an american Switch in Europe with the same power cord and a travel adapter?

In the sense that you're asking about, I don't think that any recent console hasn't been region free.

Region free is talking about software, not charging

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Sorry mate, but even Apple has the same big thing on the wall. It's called USB-C Charger. You can use this for Switch.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ262LL/A/29w-usb-c-power-adapter?fnode=8b&fs=f%3Dcharger%26fh%3D4595%252B45d4

In what world are the beautiful Apple chargers the same as the OP's? And you can slide out the connection on Apple ones and add an extension cable. Not to mention they are narrow.

 

[OverturePT]

Fucking Nintendo, what a shit console. Do they REALLY expect me to fit this AC adapter in my house?

 

[-Mutsukki-]

Fucking Nintendo, what a shit console. Do they REALLY expect me to fit this AC adapter in my house?

yeah no shit they expect me to fit the console and dock in my house too like i don't have that space what the fuck nintendo

 

[EvetS]

ITT: I learned that gaf is too poor to afford extra power strips.