That is a good question. Nothing really focuses on this aspect, so that either means that 3ds is still held up as its own pillar (at least for the moment, who knows how it'll be later on) or that we happen to not have any journalists with sources in the know about those developers (which would be a strange coincidence). Nor do have any rumours about 3ds ports coming over to the Switch, while the WiiU ports are abundant. There are some reasons for that, which we have discussed at length, but you would expect at least some handheld devs from Nintendo to take a look at the Switch (and we know Pokémon will likely come, so why not other games?).
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That is a good question. Nothing really focuses on this aspect, so that either means that 3ds is still held up as its own pillar (at least for the moment, who knows how it'll be later on) or that we happen to not have any journalists with sources in the know about those developers (which would be a strange coincidence). Nor do have any rumours about 3ds ports coming over to the Switch, while the WiiU ports are abundant. There are some reasons for that, which we have discussed at length, but you would expect at least some handheld devs from Nintendo to take a look at the Switch (and we know Pokémon will likely come, so why not other games?).
WhiteWaterM00se
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If you do that though, it completely crushes third parties chances on the system. Plus it could lead to one game eating the others potential sales.
There is no way we get Splatoon, Mario, Zelda, and Rabbids RPG at launch unless there is no third party support.
Which is the nightmare scenario.
Oh wow what a shocking twist nobody saw that coming like literally nobody I for one am shocked.
We know at least a few still have some 3DS projects in the pipeline(Poochy & Yoshi, Ever Oasis, Pikmin) but we're not talking a lot of stuff there.
Ehhh, as much as Nintendo won't want to crush third parties it's much more important that Switch is a success. They held off on 3DS to give third parties a chance and it backfired completely.
Or maybe it's not launching in EU Day 1 but Switch is Region Free.
SolidSnakex
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If their goal is to have the best launch ever, then sure they'd do that. But that doesn't really need to be their goal. Their goal should be sustaining momentum after launch instead of throwing everything they possibly could at all at once. As WhiteWaterM00se mentioned, in that scenario Nintendo would have 3D Mario, Zelda, Mario Rabbids, and the Splatoon port all available on day one. You don't think that's overkill? A brand new Zelda or 3D Mario at launch is going to guarantee that at the very least it's a success at launch. Those two franchises are big enough to carry it through that period. That's without even taking into account Mario Rabbids, Splatoon and the third party releases. And then they could have the other game launch afterwards for when people have wrapped up Zelda or Mario.
Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World is done and localised, just held back to have something for spring.
It depends what unannounced games Nintendo has lined up though. Would it be overkill if Nintendo could follow it up with Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Retro's game, NLG's game and Fire Emblem? I doubt they could get all that out but we don't really know what Nintendo's release slate looks like.
Yeah, it's also just an expanded port. There's also the fact that the Mario Maker 3DS port was done by NST and not EPD.
WhiteWaterM00se
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I respect your opinion, but I think Nintendo launching without third-party support would cause many consumers to hold off. They don't want to get burned like launch 3DS or all Wii U owners did.
They are battling a perception. They can not ignore that perception anymore.
My nephew visited last week, and is in grade school. He wanted to know, when will Mario show up on Xbox? My grade school nephew knew Nintendo doesn't get all the games. He likes Nintendo properties and Minecraft. By can not comprehend having a Nintendo system.
Nintendo have to change this perception.
JosephManderley
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Just watched the reveal trailer for the first time in over a month, hype is refreshed!
I'm looking forward to hearing what Indie / VC games will be at launch. Little Inferno was the first game I bought for Wii U (apart from Nintendoland pack-in) and I loved it. I never owned a Gamecube, so Gamecube VC has me excited as well.
I'm looking forward to hearing what Indie / VC games will be at launch. Little Inferno was the first game I bought for Wii U (apart from Nintendoland pack-in) and I loved it. I never owned a Gamecube, so Gamecube VC has me excited as well.
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It doesn't matter when Zelda is coming. When Mario is coming. When Splatoon is coming etc. Whether they come at launch, in June or the holiday doesn't matter because I know they're coming. I'm hyped for what I don't know is coming. That's what has me excited for the January event.
It won't be launching without third party support though. Nintendo releasing more games doesn't mean third parties won't release games.
The fact is the only third party that will have any effect on the Switch's launch is Monster Hunter in Japan.
The people who would buy a Switch in June for either Mario or Zelda would just try to buy one sooner if both come out at launch. And then you have two scenarios:
1. Wii-like shortages which means the Switch will be sold out for longer periods of time and thus the sales up until June will be anyhow assured, so it makes no difference.
2. Nintendo is able to supply for the demand (lol) which means a huge install base after launch which will fare well for all the other games launching post March, including third parties.
I don't see any potential negative scenario for having both Zelda and Mario at launch except for people not having money to buy both and being upset at others that get to play both sooner. But that has no impact of Switch itself.
Zelda and 3D Mario at launch would be A) pretty bad for both individual games, splitting marketing resources and mainstream attention like that for your two biggest brands? No. And B) kill off the Mario X Rabbids RPG. I know GAF doesn't like the Rabbids much but this title is crucial for both Nintendo and Ubisoft. In a wider sense for 3rd parties in general.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Your right. But it does hurt the chances of third party support being a success going up directly against the likes of Splatoon, Zelda, and Mario.
Jon Carter
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You forgot Switch Diver.
It's not like Nintendo doesn't do this almost every year on "Nintendo day" since years and manages to handle it pretty well.
To be fair, 3D World and A Link Between Worlds were on different platforms.
Ehh it might hurt a bit but then I'd fundamentally say if those releases need Nintendo not to release stuff to succeed then they aren't going to succeed in the first place.
Yup, 3D World and A Link Between Worlds released on the same day.
Does it change anything ? Most people who owns a Wii U likely owns a 3DS, and they wouldn't pass on a new Zelda game.
Mario is back in the Zeitgeist like he wasn't for years.
And Zelda is now a name people heard of thanks to Jimmy Fallon.
These are great opportunities to do daily tweet and Facebook communication, Nintendo Minute months on YouTube and so on. Why not use the full potential here?
JosephManderley
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Zelda at launch, Mario a month later at Easter?
A month after launch is generally when you get bored with the games you picked up day one, having a big title like Mario release then really keeps momentum going.
A month after launch is generally when you get bored with the games you picked up day one, having a big title like Mario release then really keeps momentum going.
Well there was never a delay rumour. The rumour was the game was only starting localisation. And based on the standard time expected for that localisation people thought Zelda would be delayed.
Nintendo is launching a new system they'll get outside help to complete localisation if necessary.
Marketing budget is marketing budget. Plus they both competed for the consumer wallet. The same with SSB Wii U and Pokemon ORAS.
purseowner
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NintendoEverything have a good translated summary of a report suggesting a lot of UE4 games coming to Switch, both previously announced and unannounced.
http://nintendoeverything.com/many-unreal-engine-built-games-on-the-way-to-switch-rep-says/
http://nintendoeverything.com/many-unreal-engine-built-games-on-the-way-to-switch-rep-says/
TheMoon
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Well yeah, DQXI is build with the UE4 so that's already one. Most japanese games nowadays use them so there probably will be a lot of support on that side.
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So RE7 is rumoured tp be coming to Switch, right?
Not from a trustworthy source I think.
I hope to god that is the case, it would be supremely disappointing otherwise. I wonder what other games come under that "many" umbrella. Do we have a list of Japanese UE4 games?
Off the top of my head there's:
DQXI
FFVIIR
KH3
Tekken 7
Neptunia Goddess Online
MVC: Infinite
If Switch even got half of them it would be a great sign.
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Is my gut trustworthy? Because it keepa telling me to not get RE7 until the Switch version comes out.
Come on Harada, don't disappoint me if you're appearing on stage on January 12th/13th...be as crazy as you want. Announce Lost Reavers Switch alongside Tekken 7, if you want, to be completely crazy!
Oh yeah Tekken 7 is also an UE4 game. I think it's almost a lock that it's coming to Switch too. There's Let it Die, Bloodstained, Ace Combat 7, KH2.8.
Have this been posted?
This could be a hint for Sakurai's new game.
http://nintendoeverything.com/masahiro-sakurai-bought-a-vifam-figure-as-a-reference-for-his-work/
Happy New Year everyone!
This could be a hint for Sakurai's new game.
http://nintendoeverything.com/masahiro-sakurai-bought-a-vifam-figure-as-a-reference-for-his-work/
Happy New Year everyone!
I think Tekken is the most likely of those for a number of reasons.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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God it will be great to finally have portable Tekken again. I sunk soooooo much time in to Dark Resurrection on PSP back in the day. Tekken 6 as well to a lesser extent. Why did Tekken 3DS have to suck so bad and wby did Vita have to flop so bad that it never got Tekken at all?
I look forward to the Switch returning the fighting genre to the glory it had on the PSP.
I look forward to the Switch returning the fighting genre to the glory it had on the PSP.
Bloodstained is close to confirmed. Let it Die wouldn't surprise me considering Grasshopper was in the partner's list(although I'm aware of the Silver Case).
This is actually a good sign
Paradox, but UE4 could mean a lot in terms of japanese third party support
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Ooohhhhh that reminds me.
PORT DIVEKICK TO THE SWITCH YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. ITS THE PERFECT GAME FOR SAME SCREEN PORTABL3 MULTIPLAYER AHHHHHHH
Ahem. Please.
The Vita already has same screen portable multiplayer Divekick, but now you wouldn't have to huddle together and both hold the system.
PORT DIVEKICK TO THE SWITCH YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. ITS THE PERFECT GAME FOR SAME SCREEN PORTABL3 MULTIPLAYER AHHHHHHH
Ahem. Please.
The Vita already has same screen portable multiplayer Divekick, but now you wouldn't have to huddle together and both hold the system.
Skyrim is already super late and a game nobody saw coming for Switch anyway. It's also one of the most popular games of the last decade. If there's a Skyrim crowd on Switch they'll buy Skyrim whenever.
Since Splatoon is rumoured to be a pack-in I don't see the issue here. People will get Zelda, obviously. After that it depends on whether they got the premium bundle or not. There's a great "launch bundle" for everyone. Zelda/MK/Splatoon or Zelda/MK/MarioXRabbids or Zelda/Splatoon and so on. If the quality is there people should beuy the other launch games after a few weeks as well anyway. It's Mario Kart. It will sell.
🤔 Nah, I don't see it.
TheMoon
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Only three RE games (worth mentioning) have not come out on Nintendo systems so far (5, 6, Rev2). It's one of the most likely multiplats to come over.
To be fair they're the most recent releases and Nintendo missed out on the remasters of the Gamecube games and the HD port of Resident Evil 4.
And most RE games only got very late ports.
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