Its very similar to souls. The main way to get beefed up is farming items, crafting stronger ones and then turning them into another weapon entirely if you prefer the look of something else.
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Nioh Review Thread
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Its very similar to souls. The main way to get beefed up is farming items, crafting stronger ones and then turning them into another weapon entirely if you prefer the look of something else.
Unknown?
Member
The characters who are from Japan speak Japanese. The main character is English so he speaks English. In all regions. They speak their native tongue but they all understand each other despite that. Lol
You character is leveled in the exact same way as in Souls. It is the itemization and how gear is handled that differs in the numbers department.
Err, no, they have made a point that William cannot understand Japanese in the beginning of the game and the few locals that know English translate to and for him.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Do they actually understand each other?
From the official cutscenes shown in trailers We have a scenes where Hanzo has to translate what William said to Tokugawa, and scenes where Okatsu has to speak in English to William
Watching the Game Informer video on How to Play Nioh, it has more character customization than I was expecting. The Diablo style loot system along with crafting and reforging to come up with the best gear is going to be addicting. Then you have refashion so your awesome gear can also look stylish.
The polygon write up is funny. Iirc in the Alpha the Yokai type enemies or bosses, are not governed by the same stamina rules as the humanoid characters. Each time you hit a Yokai you take away some of their "stamina" once you deplete it completely you can stunlock them for a few seconds and deal massive damage. Pretty sure Yokai bosses are governed by the same rules, because I remember using it to my advantage during the boss fight in the boat in the alpha.
The thing is, though, if you turtle too much you'll never be able to deplete their stamina because they can regain it back quickly. The mechanic forces the player to be aggressive and discourages being too passive in the fights. If polygon is being too careful during boss fights I could see the fights taking a while lol.
Thats going from the Alpha, though I don't think much changed. The game was probably designed around this mechanic so I doubt they tampered with it too much, if at all.
The thing is, though, if you turtle too much you'll never be able to deplete their stamina because they can regain it back quickly. The mechanic forces the player to be aggressive and discourages being too passive in the fights. If polygon is being too careful during boss fights I could see the fights taking a while lol.
Thats going from the Alpha, though I don't think much changed. The game was probably designed around this mechanic so I doubt they tampered with it too much, if at all.
That's the idea. I was taking the Twilight Ogress down in under 2 minutes easy by sticking close to her and wailing on her when she got started into several of her attacks that cannot hit you and a few that are easily dodged and then leave her open for a full combo. Combined with the ki pulse dodge you can shred her.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
This is accurate.
And a similiar methodology is employed for the human bosses as well, if you don't get in their face and force them to deplete their stamina you wouldn't be able to break their guard.
Mentosrock
Member
A common complaint in the beta was that the enemies had too much health, I doubt people weren't realizing you had to actually hit the boss a lot. I had the same problem with a lot of the enemies, so I agree with their observation. Bosses can feel like HP pools, and this depends a lot on the level of items you have equipped as well. Not just the stamina depletion mechanic.
adversarial
Member
Yup, I love it.
My initiation game was Bloodborne and I got used to being super aggressive, so when I played the Last Chance Trial, this was right up my alley.
Primethius
Banned
The most recent beta? I didn't notice any issues with enemies having too much health.
I beat all those bosses in 2 minutes or less which is about in line with beating a typical Souls boss, if not less.
Frozenprince
Banned
I guess it's just a matter of skill mixed with a play style that Ninja Theory is slightly discouraging.
AmethystEnd
Member
Team Ninja, not Ninja Theory. I don't think Ninja Theory is capable of a game this good.
NIOH by Ninja Theory ;D
AmethystEnd
Member
Don't you put that evil on me.
Radical Edward
Member
Which enemies? Played all three demos and never had an issue with too much hp unless you had severely underleveled gear
Yeah. One of the seemingly big differences between this and Souls is that putting even a few points into your stats (the relevant attack stat in particular) helps significantly.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
In general, the complaints focuses on the "mini-boss" yokais and the bosses themselves.
Radical Edward
Member
Well, deservedly so. They are mini bosses after all and don't respawn. I expected them to have more hp
GodlyTwins
Member
Does this game have an easier story to follow/comprehend compared to Dark Souls? For me, DS had a very confusing story because you had to link the characters and places yourself to understand anything. I don't want to look at item descriptions for lore pls
Coriolanus
Banned
If memory serves, yokai only regain stamina once it is completely depleted. They then go into that ez-stun state, and usually spawn a yokai realm, thus triggering the recovery. Same usually goes for bosses.
notable exception is the firewheel, which would fartsplode and then get some ki back.
Primethius
Banned
Yes, actual cutscenes and all. It's much more straightforward in its presentation.
Its a traditionally told story, but at the same time there will be lore pieces in missions to give greater context to specific events
GodlyTwins
Member
Nice! Hopefully I can pick this up sooner than later.
There are, but I think most of the tutorials in the game come later than they should. They kind of teach you things after it would make sense for you to have tried to figure them out on your own due to need.
FrankWza
Member
That ricky bobby!
I got a same state ship from bestbuy but its just outside the ground window for next day so looks like ill be getting on monday. Would have been awesome to have for the weekend too.
Equip the magic skill you've learned on which d-pad slot you want and press it. It's nothing complex.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Well technically you still have to-
1) equip it at the shrine (only way)
2) make sure you have the jutsu capacity to equip it
3) realize it's an item
It's straightforward but not as obvious if people don't look for it.
It's pretty self explanatory though if you took the time to look through the menus but yeah, maybe I oversimplified it a bit.
FlyingIrishMan
Member
How is co-op handled in this? Can I play the entire game through with someone else, or is it just ring a bell and complete a boss like in souls?
You can summon someone from a shrine as long as you have ochoko cups. The summoning is passive so you can run around while waiting for someone to be summoned.
Poimandres
Member
Woah, the metacrit score is really high. Impressive!
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Random weapons have random bonuses, most would not have any synergy (that's where Reforging comes in). But certain unique drops like Muneshige set have some guarantee bonuses like the water damage.
I agree but when you compare to how easy it is to just equip a weapon and start swinging, you have like three extra steps to use magic. So I can related to people not realizing
The player being summoned has to have completed the stage though (or did they change that?)
Can you grind to increase your levels/stats if you get stuck on a tough boss?
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
You can, but in doing so you may also find better loot that substantially increases your attack/defense/whatever. I'm sure there's a limit to the level of gear you can find in a particular mission, but the second time I played the Last Chance Trial I happened to find significantly better stuff than the first time and it made the boss a lot easier.
Ninja Theory doesn't have the ability to make a game like this.
I didn't get to try the Last Chance demo but from the 2nd beta, you could create a lobby through the Torii Gate from the world map and set a password so that your friend can join in and you start a mission together. It SHOULD work like that unless I'm mis-remembering something.
Oh man, Jim if you're reading this I'm hyped. The two games I'm getting Day 1 for the next sixth months are Yakuza 0 and Nioh. Which you gave a 9.5 and a 10. I'm so set!
I might also get Zelda Wild Breath and pretty sure that's going to be good as well.
Opencritic also going up and up. 87 now. It was 84. What do you guys think? The reviewers that had their review up and early didn't really enjoy it as much and had their review done while people who posted their reviews later are giving it better scores.
I might also get Zelda Wild Breath and pretty sure that's going to be good as well.
Opencritic also going up and up. 87 now. It was 84. What do you guys think? The reviewers that had their review up and early didn't really enjoy it as much and had their review done while people who posted their reviews later are giving it better scores.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
Jim fucking Sterling son. My man. 100 grand. His gaming taste line up with mine more often than not so his review made me so much more excited.
Yes.