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[Chaos2Frozen]

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that you can block out of a combo.

Like most people would have the instinct to spam the dodge button when being hit, but they never tried the guard button.

 

[usp84]

So i just preordered thanks to all the impressions from people here and reviews.Big souls fan but i have feeling this game will make me rage even more lol.

 

[Baalzebup]

Ah thanks.

The second boss is the epitome of unfair game design.

Spoiler

Every damn hit stun locks you for seconds. Get hit? You die.

What a joke.

Actually, it is just an enemy that asks you to understand the underlying mechanics. Equipping more or less anything that grants paralysis resistance ups your threshold to a level where a single hit from the paralysis attack doesn't actually freeze you unless you eat another soon after.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Ah thanks.

The second boss is the epitome of unfair game design.

Spoiler

Every damn hit stun locks you for seconds. Get hit? You die.

What a joke.

Why is that unfair?
You can simply dodge through it
https://youtu.be/mkuZ6FYK3n0?t=14s
or build up some Resistance to the stat, theres even an item outside that gives you a "get out of jail free card".

 

[The perfect Dark]

Why is that unfair?
You can simply dodge through it
https://youtu.be/mkuZ6FYK3n0?t=14s
or build up some Resistance to the stat, theres even an item outside that gives you a "get out of jail free card".

It's a consumable item. you get it once. That doesn't help at all. I don't have paralysis resistance either.

edit: I have resistance but it's not enough.

 

[Ferr986]

Why is that unfair?
You can simply dodge through it
https://youtu.be/mkuZ6FYK3n0?t=14s
or build up some Resistance to the stat, theres even an item outside that gives you a "get out of jail free card".

I still don't know how the fuck did you deal that much damage with that double katana spam attack. I did shit damage in the betas with it lol

 

[IvorB]

Didn't really have a problem with bosses health pool, but I come from monster hunter. Wailing on khezu for 50 minutes to no avail (in 2F) might have shifted my expectations. *shrug*

Yeah I didn't have a problem with this. And the complaint actually makes no sense to me. What is the "right" amount of health for a boss to have? How would anyone know since everyone's experience is different based on level/gear/skills etc. I just accept how much life the boss has and if I'm not doing enough damage then I will work to correct that rather than get all Goldilocks about the boss health pool.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

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It's a consumable item. you get it once. That doesn't help at all. I don't have paralysis resistance either.

So get some armor that does?
But seriously you just need to press X to dodge it, it has a massive tell.

What is the "right" amount of health for a boss to have?

Not so much that i am bored fighting them , i only had this problem with ogress though.
If she actually was trying to fight me and not the air 5 feet behind me, maybe it wouldn't of been so much a problem.

 

[Baalzebup]

I still don't know how the fuck did you deal that much damage with that double katana spam attack. I did shit damage in the betas with it lol

Hino-Enma has relatively low health and eats damage something fierce when in zero Ki state, even more so that the other Yokai. He is using it when she is in that state.

 

[Ferr986]

Hino-Enma has relatively low health and eats damage something fierce when in zero Ki state, even more so that the other Yokai. He is using it when she is in that state.

I see. I knew about them taking more damage in no Ki state but didn't know it was that much.

...Now I don't know if I should go Katana+Spear or Duals+Spear lol

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

btw if you feel like you can't get the timing for dodging her paralysis blast, hold down the dodge button and just run sideways around her.

 

[The perfect Dark]

So get some armor that does?
But seriously you just need to press X to dodge it, it has a massive tell.


Not so much that i am bored fighting them , i only had this problem with ogress though.
If she actually was trying to fight me and not the air 5 feet behind me, maybe it wouldn't of been so much a problem.

I don't know what the boss was doing in your playthrough but

Spoiler

she

is constantly attacking me. I don't even have time to heal. One hit = stun lock = dead.

 

[Deku Tree]

Omg Nioh is installed on my Pro

 

[Imp the Dimp]

If I'm in a twilight mission can I safely turn the game off and come back tomorrow or is the mission failed as twilight mission seem to rotate daily?

 

[xuchu]

I don't know what the boss was doing in your playthrough but

Spoiler

she

is constantly attacking me. I don't even have time to heal. One hit = stun lock = dead.

Anti-paralytic needles. I think you get a ton in that level. At least you did in the beta.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Anti-paralytic needles. I think you get a ton in that level. At least you did in the beta.

I have 3....

And omg this is the worst boss ever made, I swear.

Spoiler

Not only stun lock bullshit, no. The boss heals itself constantly. What a damn joke his is.

 

[sublimit]

I'm away from my PS4 (and i will continue to be for the upcoming months) and this game is making me want to buy a second PS4 just to play it where i'm currently staying.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

I have 3....

And omg this is the worst boss ever made, I swear.

Spoiler

Not only stun lock bullshit, no. The boss heals itself constantly. What a damn joke his is.

Just do every thing this guy is doing, you don't even need to be perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yfKpvs3yE

 

[GonzoCR]

Second boss is

Spoiler

Hino-Emma

? That'll go well...

But seriously if you can't dodge the blasts just run sideways and they'll never hit you. And

Spoiler

she only heals herself

if you get hit by the grab.

 

[Ferr986]

Second boss is

Spoiler

Hino-Emma

? That'll go well...

But seriously if you can't dodge the blasts just run sideways and they'll never hit you. And

Spoiler

she only heals herself

if you get hit by the grab.

Its weird. I felt the Ogress from the last demo was way easier. I thought

Spoiler

Hino

would be more of a mid game boss.

 

[Rixxan]

Why is that unfair?
You can simply dodge through it
https://youtu.be/mkuZ6FYK3n0?t=14s
or build up some Resistance to the stat, theres even an item outside that gives you a "get out of jail free card".

Well played

 

[BigEmil]

Hino Emna is super easy if it's same as she was in Beta, all her attacks are predictable ans dodgable and she does big telegraphs (whatever you call that thing) before her attacks and she specific sounds she makes before each attacks helps too

 

[xuchu]

I have 3....

And omg this is the worst boss ever made, I swear.

Spoiler

Not only stun lock bullshit, no. The boss heals itself constantly. What a damn joke his is.

I know you're frustrated. We've all been there in certain souls bosses too. Take a break and come back after a little while and I'm sure you'll beat her in a few attempts. She has a lot of easy tells and not much health compared to other bosses. Just do some scouting runs where you aren't attacking, just learning her moves and openings and I'm sure you'll destroy her. Good luck.

 

[GonzoCR]

Its weird. I felt the Ogress from the last demo was way easier. I thought

Spoiler

Hino

would be more of a mid game boss.

I agree, Ogress has some bullshit attacks but it's a much easier fight in general. I personally found

Spoiler

Hino

a big jump in difficulty compared to

Spoiler

Onryoki

.

 

[Eolz]

There is a spoiler thread btw for those already having the game...

 

[The perfect Dark]

Just do every thing this guy is doing, you don't even need to be perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yfKpvs3yE

I don't know what he's doing or how he's doing this but it just doesn't work. She's way too fast in my game. Spamming all attacks left and right. I also have to get way closer to hit er because I have a katana.

It's not fun. Not fun at all.

 

[Coriolanus]

man, i never noticed that

Spoiler

hino-enma

takes 25% stamina damage from a short-ass low-stance sqsqtri kick combo >__>

I don't know what he's doing or how he's doing this but it just doesn't work. She's way too fast in my game. Spamming all attacks left and right. I also have to get way closer to hit er because I have a katana.

It's not fun. Not fun at all.

please capture an attempt and upload it to youtube.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

There is a spoiler thread btw for those already having the game...

People posting pics of the last boss and shit in there. I'll certainly not go there anymore.

I don't know what the boss was doing in your playthrough but

Spoiler

she

is constantly attacking me. I don't even have time to heal. One hit = stun lock = dead.

You're on full tilt dude, chill out. Have a break and come back later to the game. The boss is certainly not easy but everything she does is dodgeable. Took me many tries too but in the end I internalized her movements to the point where I had some potions left when she went down.

I do expect the second boss to be the end of this game for many players lol.

 

[The perfect Dark]

man, i never noticed that

Spoiler

hino-enma

takes 25% stamina damage from a short-ass low-stance sqsqtri kick combo >__>



please capture an attempt and upload it to youtube.

I'm a noob, I've never uploaded anything from my Ps4 lol. It would probably take me longer than beating this boss

People posting pics of the last boss and shit in there. I'll certainly not go there anymore.


You're on full tilt dude, chill out. Have a break and come back later to the game. The boss is certainly not easy but everything she does is dodgeable. Took me many tries to but in the end I internalized her movements to the point where I had some potions left when she went down.

I do expect the second boss to be the end of this game for many players lol.

Lol yeah
Going to have a small break and drink some coffee

 

[gbpackers25]

Just do every thing this guy is doing, you don't even need to be perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yfKpvs3yE

That doesn't look too bad

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Is there a decent Ninjutsu/Jutsu guide? I haven't understand what those are and how to use at all.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

I don't know what he's doing or how he's doing this but it just doesn't work. She's way too fast in my game. Spamming all attacks left and right. I also have to get way closer to hit er because I have a katana.

It's not fun. Not fun at all.

It's the same game, that video was not from the beta. Even if you're using a Katana the concept is still the same- bait out her attacks and get her on her cool downs.

She's fast but she's not lightning fast, don't get greedy with your attacks.

 

[False Witness]

Ah thanks.

The second boss is the epitome of unfair game design.

Spoiler

Every damn hit stun locks you for seconds. Get hit? You die.

What a joke.

You're supposed to make her scream, not the other way around. Seriously though, just stun lock her first.

 

[Coriolanus]

I'm a noob, I've never uploaded anything from my Ps4 lol. It would probably take me longer than beating this boss

is as hard as clicking the share button after an attempt has been made and choosing to share on yt. Quite intuitive, really. All instructions will be provided by the ps4.

Either way, imma go out on a leg and guess that you're being greedy and trying to unload on her between her attacks, instead of poking just once or twice and doding the fuck away.

 

[True Fire]

People posting pics of the last boss and shit in there. I'll certainly not go there anymore.

That's not an excuse to post spoilers in a thread that should not have any spoilers whatsoever, come on now.

 

[FeArTriX]

I don't know what he's doing or how he's doing this but it just doesn't work. She's way too fast in my game. Spamming all attacks left and right. I also have to get way closer to hit er because I have a katana.

It's not fun. Not fun at all.

Try leveling up a little bit it always helps, back in the demo it took me a solid 10 tries to beat her, just don't get greedy and try to time your dodge and you should be fine

 

[Imp the Dimp]

That's not an excuse to post spoilers in a thread that should not have any spoilers whatsoever, come on now.

Oh I agree, people who spoil are idiots. I've been tagging all my stuff.

 

[Kaako]

Got digital deluxe fully preloaded and patiently waiting. Monday night needs to hurry the fuck up though.
Regarding bosses & frustration: if you're stuck on one enemy for 30min-1hour, it's time to take a breather. This definitely helps. You'll get to a point where you'll memorize every single movement of theirs and work up from there how to punish. Once you get really good at this, it's time to get naked & fancy! Gimmie that A-rank blue rating all day; light as a feather.

 

[False Witness]

Is there a decent Ninjutsu/Jutsu guide? I haven't understand what those are and how to use at all.

Setting up Ninjutsu/Onmyo Magic Tutorial

I can give you actual tips as to what to grab if you want more of a build guide.

 

[The perfect Dark]

You're supposed to make her scream, not the other way around. Seriously though, just stun lock her first.

This is amazing, lol.

 

[Mutombo]

Nioh just scored a 6,5 from a dutch gaming website.

"Nioh offers a very strong first impression, but cannot sustain it. The combat mechanics are deep and rewarding, but thanks to a repetitive pattern of a handful of enemies the player goes into automatic pilot too quickly.

+ deep fighting system
+ at first; challenging and rewarding

- repetitive; small number of different enemies
- predictable
- boss encounters not memorable"

Thoughts from guys who are more than ten hours into this game?

 

[Jamiaro]

My main weapons will most likely be a Hammer and either double swords or kusarigama.

Spear seemed kinda off for me...

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Okay question- I know the OT would not be set up until tomorrow, but would it be fine if I set up a sort of temporary thread so that early players can divert gameplay questions there?

 

[BlizzKrut]

Nioh just scored a 6,5 from a dutch gaming website.

"Nioh offers a very strong first impression, but cannot sustain it. The combat mechanics are deep and rewarding, but thanks to a repetitive pattern of a handful of enemies the player goes into automatic pilot too quickly.

+ deep fighting system
+ at first; challenging and rewarding

- repetitive; small number of different enemies
- predictable
- boss encounters not memorable"

Thoughts from guys who are more than ten hours into this game?

What's considered predictable? The story? The gameplay?

 

[Jamiaro]

Nioh just scored a 6,5 from a dutch gaming website.

"Nioh offers a very strong first impression, but cannot sustain it. The combat mechanics are deep and rewarding, but thanks to a repetitive pattern of a handful of enemies the player goes into automatic pilot too quickly.

+ deep fighting system
+ at first; challenging and rewarding

- repetitive; small number of different enemies
- predictable
- boss encounters not memorable"

Thoughts from guys who are more than ten hours into this game?

Well that'll put this thread steaming.

 

[BigEmil]

Nioh just scored a 6,5 from a dutch gaming website.

"Nioh offers a very strong first impression, but cannot sustain it. The combat mechanics are deep and rewarding, but thanks to a repetitive pattern of a handful of enemies the player goes into automatic pilot too quickly.

+ deep fighting system
+ at first; challenging and rewarding

- repetitive; small number of different enemies
- predictable
- boss encounters not memorable"

Thoughts from guys who are more than ten hours into this game?

Link to review? Also this seems to be the lowest score given to Nioh so this one will get most clicks due to clickbait material people will wonder why it got a low score so a definite click

 

[Mutombo]

What's considered predictable? The story? The gameplay?

I suppose this has to do with the fighting patters becoming repetitive, and thus predictable.

http://www.insidegamer.nl/recensies/126485/nioh-review-verspilt-potentieel

From what I've read: reviewer really liked the demos. But after a ten hour mark he sort of got the feeling that from there on out, it was pretty much the same enemies in the rest, and he couldn't see the positive past that negative anymore. Other games get a mention, Call of Duty and the like also feature random soldier after random soldier. But he could not forgive it in a game like this, where it should be about the surprising, awkward and tense dance between player and foe.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Nioh just scored a 6,5 from a dutch gaming website.

"Nioh offers a very strong first impression, but cannot sustain it. The combat mechanics are deep and rewarding, but thanks to a repetitive pattern of a handful of enemies the player goes into automatic pilot too quickly.

+ deep fighting system
+ at first; challenging and rewarding

- repetitive; small number of different enemies
- predictable
- boss encounters not memorable"

Thoughts from guys who are more than ten hours into this game?

13h in and I can confirm the enemy variety is not particularly high. The game might have just not appealed to the reviewer which is perfectly fine. Not sure what he means by "predictable" though?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

I suppose this has to do with the fighting patters becoming repetitive, and thus predictable.

Why not link the review?

 

[Mutombo]

Why not link the review?

(for new page)

I suppose this has to do with the fighting patters becoming repetitive, and thus predictable.

http://www.insidegamer.nl/recensies/...ilt-potentieel

From what I've read: reviewer really liked the demos. But after a ten hour mark he sort of got the feeling that from there on out, it was pretty much the same enemies in the rest, and he couldn't see the positive past that negative anymore. Other games get a mention, Call of Duty and the like also feature random soldier after random soldier. But he could not forgive it in a game like this, where it should be about the surprising, awkward and tense dance between player and foe.