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*NO BOOK SPOILERS* Game of Thrones - Season 2 - Sundays on HBO (read rules in OP)
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base shagohod
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Yeah, I'm in disbelief that those kids were actual Bran and Rickon.
Glad to see others think the same way lol.
Glad to see others think the same way lol.
walbertsmith
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Crazy thing is... even if those kids actually end up being the orphans... HOW FUCKED UP IS THEON? Burning kids to a crisp? Pretty vile, regardless on who they actually are.
Dude is going deeper and deeper the rabbit hole... that look on his face at the end was like "damn, how the hell did I become *this* shitty?"
I think I hate Theon more than Joffrey, I want to see him burned. And that couldn't have been the Stark kids, yet that scene made me sick to my stomach.
Am I the only one who (pure speculation) sees the Jon Snow storyline going in a way where he will start to sympathize with the wildlings and go on to become the king north of the north.
Am I the only one who (pure speculation) sees the Jon Snow storyline going in a way where he will start to sympathize with the wildlings and go on to become the king north of the north.
That's what I loved about the scene (& actually about what he did to Bran after the fact).
Bravery has a dark side to it. They did this with The Hound too. Bravery means killing people to achieve your goal & it doesn't feel bad. I don't know if they're right but Hound in particular explained it well.
Yes I am thinking that is where the story will go as well.
Sword Familiar
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Yeah, I haven't read the other posts, but I think this is his way of controlling the crowd by stating an example. If he didn't find them he'd look weak, so, since he didn't really find them, what better way to do this than to bring fear into their hearts? And yeah, you can really see the doubt all over his face, but he's already beyond saving.
The scene seriously fucked me up though. SO disturbing.
I don't think Jon would want the kingship unless Robb was a goner. I do think he will try to unite them all.
base shagohod
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Definitely.
Anyway, I feel like Tywin has to have some kind of clue who Arya is by now. Does he still think she's in King's Landing or something? Can't remember..
The actor that portrays Jamie does it so incredibly awesome that its hard not to root for him. Along with King Joffrey he is the most despicable villain in the show, but you just want him to live.
Also im secretly hoping he'll turn awesome and good in the end, but im pretty sure thats not going to happen, not in this show.
I also agree that the scenes between Arya and the Lannister(i forget his name all the time) are pretty fucking awesome, and tense on an calm and controled way. Kid actors usually annoy the shit out of me, but they got some talent here.
Also im secretly hoping he'll turn awesome and good in the end, but im pretty sure thats not going to happen, not in this show.
I also agree that the scenes between Arya and the Lannister(i forget his name all the time) are pretty fucking awesome, and tense on an calm and controled way. Kid actors usually annoy the shit out of me, but they got some talent here.
Sword Familiar
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I was thinking the same. The King of the True North. Good luck for an outsider to pull this off though. Knowing how this has been going so far, it wouldn't surprise me if he just dies pitifully. Just hope he gets some nookie out of it first.
I honestly don't think they played it up to be them. They gave some pretty obvious clues eary on they weren't going to the farm, that the orphans were there, & that they were taking to the trees.
Further, it apeared that the plan all along was to torture the farmer's family and that no one else in the village would know they couldn't find the kids.
I guess he could be doing it for his folks too.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I don't think it's lame. My interpretation of the scene is different from what everyone sees on face value. Yeah, Theon gets to make his great display and remind the folk what he's capable of, but actually seeing the charred bodies shocks him to the core. More than anything now, he's crossed a bridge and theres no turning back. Word will travel of what he 'appears' to have done and his head will be wanted on a platter.
Twyin. Every scene with Arya has been electric.
parrotbeak
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I think that was the sickest thing shown on the show so far. I didn't want to go to bed after that.
Why is it obvious?
Yeah, I've become jaded and de-sensitized by the internet but that scene made me feel terrible.
Grimm Fandango
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Few reasons:
-all important story characters have died on screen
-Bran pointing out the orphan boys (two of them... how nice)
-Osha saying she's good at climbing (as someone said before, they are probably hiding in the trees somewhere)
They should have used this music for the hanging corpses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
- The millions of hints pointing towards the orphans during the entire episode;
- The fact that they had no clue where Bran and Rickon where;
- How the hell did they get past the wolves off-screen?
- The fact that they had no clue where Bran and Rickon where;
- How the hell did they get past the wolves off-screen?
Plus the stuff Grimm Fandango posted. The list goes on and on.
It's freaking ridiculously obvious. It blows my mind that some could think otherwise.
I did like the ending nonetheless, because it doesn't matter if those are or not them right now -
for all everyone in Winterfell knows, those are Bran and Rickon. And there'll be repercussions. Just look at the face Theon did in the end.
Grimm Fandango
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Actually that's a good point about the direwolves, where the hell are they? If they are in a tree too like in Hodor's arms, well that's just lol.
The Lamonster
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This was episode 7 out of 10, so 3 left.
Enosh
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it's because her 10 mins per episode have fuck all to do with the rest of the show
the lanisters, starks etc are all connected, she is on a different continent doing her own thing that has no real relevance to the overall plot of the show, hell she isn't even mentioned when they go on about the many kings
It's too much like Theon's story although they were making comparison between the two of them.
There is no reason for Jon to go against The Wall or his family. Again, I could see him deciding to unite, but he's such a screw up right now, I don't know who would listen to him.
BobTheFork
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I think it's mostly because she character is no longer developing. Her personal arc was the backbone of the first season. Now her and her story are stagnate. She has basically become of brother and they really any closer to anything she wants to do.
I disagree. I think her story is the most interesting for the long term. As disconnected as she is from the Westoros stuff, she is the future of the series. She's the one I don't think anything will happen to.
Everything either foreshadows to the dragons and how scary they are or they show how far reaching the desire for the Iron Throne is.
So it all comes back to either the dragons or the Throne. Plus I think she keeps evolving too. She acted like a queen for all of a minute before being smacked down a few times.
SolidusDave
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For me the most obvious reason was that they are burned beyond recognition...
Though I'm not sure that was a smart move by Theon, might have "impressed" the already captured Winterfell-ers, but he lost now any bargain (bluff) when the army of that one guy's son will arrive. I would laugh if his sister won't even come for help.
Jaime is such a cold bastard. Actually killing the boy wasn't even necessary at all for his "master escape plan".
He didn't even come far and seems to try desperately to get killed by everyone (I guess he's too scared to just kill himself?).
I really hope Lady Stark cuts off parts of him (or just cuts the Achilles tendon so that he can't run).
Doesn't Arya feel bad btw that due to her some innocent (?) guys get hanged now?
Snow's actions are really stupid, everything seems to be constructed to somehow get him/the plot to the King of the Wildlings.
oh and I did not expect that the creepy guy actually uses some sort of magic.
Those are the white walkers.
Grimm Fandango
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The best way to look at it is there are more than humans up North. So if they don't look like normal humans adapted for the conditions of being north of the Wall, they aren't Wildings. I could be wrong but that's all we have so far.
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Osha is a wildling.
Wildings are just people who live beyond the wall. White Walkers are the monsters, we've only seen two of them in very brief glimpses.
BobTheFork
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TheContact
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Both but people haven't seen white walkers for a long time so most think they're just a myth.
Pretty sure the immediate danger to them is Wildings. After all, they are there to investigate the army forming there.
As Winter comes and if it lasts a good while, ones North of the Wall will head South. Few believed in the other stuff until recently.
They're trying to stop the Wildlings from marching South under Mance Rayder's leadership. The White Walkers are back after thousands of years, but none of them want to admit it.
That's true which is why I like the amount of screentime given to her. I'm not too worried about her and I like how her story is tied to Westoros without having anything to do with the current goings on. This episode was great though in the amount of time given to her.
Strong episode! I loved the scene between Cersei and Tyrion. It showed real emotion, and also that Cersei isn't a complete bitch. It would also seem that Tyrion would get the upper hand again, so win-win!
I hope Jaime stays alive forever! I mean he's such an awesome character, even though it's kind of harsh that he killed his admirer, I was hoping for a somewhat less cruel solution.
I must stress: I have not read the books! I think that the dark guy, who wants to marry Dany, is under some kind of spell by the guy with the purple lips. I don't see why he would help that guy otherwise, it's like he said: What can dragons buy him that he can't buy already. War would not be an option either, because he just wants to make money, which slows down when there's a war.
I can't believe it's Bran and Rickon. I mean, you can't kill Bran after he's just been appointed steward of Winterfell. But anyway, even if Theon killed other kids. It still shows that he is a complete fucking nutjob and deserves to die. At least with Joffrey we know that Joffrey is pure evil, but it just sucks that Theon used to be a good guy, and now has gone mental
I hope Jaime stays alive forever! I mean he's such an awesome character, even though it's kind of harsh that he killed his admirer, I was hoping for a somewhat less cruel solution.
I must stress: I have not read the books! I think that the dark guy, who wants to marry Dany, is under some kind of spell by the guy with the purple lips. I don't see why he would help that guy otherwise, it's like he said: What can dragons buy him that he can't buy already. War would not be an option either, because he just wants to make money, which slows down when there's a war.
I can't believe it's Bran and Rickon. I mean, you can't kill Bran after he's just been appointed steward of Winterfell. But anyway, even if Theon killed other kids. It still shows that he is a complete fucking nutjob and deserves to die. At least with Joffrey we know that Joffrey is pure evil, but it just sucks that Theon used to be a good guy, and now has gone mental
He doesn't have kingship which is the only thing left. No one would follow the creepy dude, but at the same time he is a powerful ally to have. Black guy is wealthy, influential, & now very powerful if he gets the dragons too. I honestly think he is the best choice to protect Dany.
just rewatched the episode and while I KNOW they are the orphans, I realized that Theon really believes he got Bran... at first viewing I thought he knew it was not them either.
oh and I love the scene with the Queen and Ned's daughter... hinting what she confirms with Tyrion later that Jeoffry is a bastard in more ways than one.
oh and I love the scene with the Queen and Ned's daughter... hinting what she confirms with Tyrion later that Jeoffry is a bastard in more ways than one.
Nizz
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I felt the same way you both did. I've seen some pretty messed up stuff on the internet but boy did last night's episode leave me with a knot in my stomach. Felt like my adrenaline was running full blast and I couldn't get to bed right away, I was so worked up lol.
That scene plus the scene right before with Cat asking Brienne for her sword was what really got me going. "No Cat, don't do it!" I feel like she'll wound Jaime but I don't think she would outright kill him. At least I hope. Shit could really hit the fan if that were to happen though.
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