I don't. I merely question, or beg the question, of how the contact was initiated -- via a call for service, or a self-initiated.
No fucks given: Black man continues to eat oatmeal as cop repeatedly knocks on window
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LaserBuddha
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Well he was staying there as i understand it, unlikely in his car for a very long time or doing anything menacing, so if I was forced at gunpoint to use occasion razor I'd say that the cop was rolling through on patrol and witnessed him Sitting in Car While Black.
If there was a complaint I imagine the officer would have leeway to be more forward.
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ChubbyHuggs
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Read: 3:30am
It's all speculative.
It also depends on who the complainant is. Say, a hotel guest, the hotel manager, or an anonymous complaint.
You know whats also speculative? Your claim that there has been a complainant
If there has been really a call, what would have stopped the Cop from saying so, or why would he had let go of that Guy if there was really some kind of Problem?
Would you leave a suspect alone just because he didn't wanted to talk with you? I bet not.
I never declared that as such, only that it's a possibility.
His own discretion.
It depends.
UltimaPooh
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So does he make it in?
Also cops were pretty tame for the most part.
They probably didn't want to go on the call because some fascist ass fuck in the hotel probably called the cops on him.
Dude just had enough of it, it seems.
Also cops were pretty tame for the most part.
They probably didn't want to go on the call because some fascist ass fuck in the hotel probably called the cops on him.
Dude just had enough of it, it seems.
Reminds me of a story a good friend of mine told me (black woman). It was around 1 AM and the cops came knocking on her door, about a week after she moved into an affluent neighborhood. She answered through the door. The police yelled something to the effect of "you have to open your fucking door we have reports of dangerous people in the area!". She just made sure every lock was in place and went back to bed, playing music on headphones to ignore them. They eventually went away.
A Link to the Past
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It's possible that the cop was trying to mentally meld with him, but the window was in the way.
Let's discuss what we know. The cop has no right to ask for an ID without cause. Cause - without exception - must be known by the person who is being asked to be identified. He has no reason to assume cause exists, and what you're doing is saying that the cop has no responsibility to establish cause. Would you criticize a person for not allowing a cop to search their home if no cause was suggested? How can we know that the officer didn't get a call about some dangerous killer breaking into their home? If a person should be compelled to surrender their civil rights "just in case" in this case, why not in that case?
(I ask this hypothetical under the hopeful assumption that you don't think that a person should be compelled to allow a search of their home by an officer without cause)
Here's a tip.
Don't just record on your phone. Record onto a live streaming service. If the cops decide to get violent and arrest you, they can just take your phone, smash it, and say it got broken during the arrest. Evidence gone.
If you live stream it, doesn't matter what happens to the phone, it's already uploaded to the servers.
Don't just record on your phone. Record onto a live streaming service. If the cops decide to get violent and arrest you, they can just take your phone, smash it, and say it got broken during the arrest. Evidence gone.
If you live stream it, doesn't matter what happens to the phone, it's already uploaded to the servers.
The fact you'd compare a doctor or nurse (lol) to a profession like cop makes it clear you have no idea how your chosen job is different from basically any other. One is highly educated and helps people. Even on bad days at worst a nurse will have to stick me twice trying to find a vein. A doctor might kill me... but he's trying to save my life. If a cop is doing his job right(or wrong) at the worst someone gets killed. Middle of the road scenario is an innocent person ends up with a arrest on their record because they didnt respect a hs dropout's badge. Best case scenario, which usually happens in white guy open carry videos, is they see they are in the wrong, turn tail, and leave.
soundahfekz
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Based on how patrol always has a defense for all police actions, I'm inclined to believe he's pulling the same kind of shit while on duty.
If his posts aren't evidence of the kind of indoctrination officers undergo via peers and superiors, I don't know what is.
If his posts aren't evidence of the kind of indoctrination officers undergo via peers and superiors, I don't know what is.
nitekrawlwer
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Your framing of someone who simply didn't answer questions as difficult terrifies me. It's as if people whom are aware of their rights are immediately made suspect by that very quality.
Furthermore the fact that the officer whom is equally difficult because of not answering all pertinent questions is completely ignored.
You may think you do good here by trying to defend your fellow officers but you do them a disservice. You bring to life my very worst fears about the police. You are a living version of the blue wall for GAF to observe in a some microcosmic glory. From how you don't notice the same "difficult" behavior coming from the officer at all and to how you criminalize and make suspect those whom show anything less than immediate and full compliance to officers.
Well said. People like agent and patrol apparently don't understand they are the product of their training and their training makes them antagonists by design.
Auto back-up. Turn the feature on and don't worry about your phone being smashed.
rob305
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If the phone gets smashed during recording or before the upload is finished you are out of luck (video can take some time to upload too, even on LTE)
kame-sennin
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No they're not.
EatinOlives
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You have a completely skewed definition of "relaxed". An officer right outside your passenger window, flashing a light on you, repeatedly telling you to show your ID to him, and repeatedly knocking when you don't is the opposite of "relaxed".
You seem to think there's nothing wrong with a cop harassing someone so long as it's not outright hostility. "Oh but he didn't yell, so he gets to stand around right outside his car and keep pestering him and dodge questions!" GTFOutta here with that.
Now you're pulling the "the video doesn't show the whole story" angle. It's a nice carte blanche to start pulling nonsensical "predictions" as to what happened before the video to push your narrative that the officer was justified in behaving the way he did. You're not, predictably, using that uncertainty of what happened before the video was recorded to say that the driver very well may have just been sitting there doing nothing and the officer wasn't "called" to the scene at all. It goes to show how biased you are.
In America? Would love to see your thought process on that one.
kame-sennin
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Cops can be huge assholes. I was parked on a busy street (legally; two hour parking limit with no meter) preparing documents for a whopping two minutes because I had to make a payment somewhere. I was sitting there minding my own business and a cop just pulled up beside me and sat there gazing at me in broad daylight, as though I would be suspicious. I was not doing anything suspicious. He kept lingering, and looking. I moved my car to the other street.
I'm white. I won't lie, the first thing I said to myself after moving was 'would he have unjustly beat my ass if I were any other race than caucasian right now'? Scary stuff.
kame-sennin
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Why You Should Never Talk to Police
Start with the first 45 seconds of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uETfm_Ed6yY
Watched the first 45 seconds, which has nothing to do with why we don't need police in modern society America.
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