Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Instead you land on a planet where similar ones are twice the size, winged and spit acid...
No Man's Sky - August 9, 2016
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Instead you land on a planet where similar ones are twice the size, winged and spit acid...
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
...Why you doing this to me lol. I hope your first planet is freezing cold so you have to spend ya first 2 hours trying to find materials to not only upgrade ya gun to make shelter but upgrade ya suit
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
That'd be pretty cool!
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Dammit your right lol
Apparently we have the same arguments that have been going on since the game was announced...
More_Badass
Member
What about the planets with giant space spiders?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Have they shown space spiders?...This will end me
You don't seem to understand... the entire planet will be a giant ball of spiders.
More_Badass
Member
I recall seeing a crab-like species in recent gameplay footage, so yes there's a possibility for multi-legged insect-like creatures
Yeah, hence why I hedged it a lot. What you describe him saying is pretty much what they've shown already.
And I'm totally fine with that. Makes perfect sense. Cities wouldn't really gel with the frontier-exploration vibe, either.
... You can't accept "this"? ... As in, any of it? As in, not a single word of the entire 600 words of my post?
All of which is confirmed in videos and press hands-on previews?
Man. What are people like.
None of it might come together, it might be totally un-fun, but 90% of what I said above IS in the game. Confirmed by 10-15 journalists seeing it first hand and from other videos and interviews.
It's not confirmed - I made that clear. Sean said something like there will be more to do once you reach the centre, and some very dodgy leaks suggested the centre opens up multiplayer options and faster travel options. (Very unlikely and super not confirmed. But it wouldn't be surprising if there is more to do in some way.)
This legit happened to reviewers back in the May press demos.
I think the game might be far more of a timesink than people realise - I think if you play your cards wrong or aren't careful you can spend a lot of time just struggling to survive on just one of the more volatile planets
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Im out..I'll be a space pirate Captain Saturn they'll call me.Never to land on a planet
More_Badass
Member
Or getting lost in caves that spread out for many many kilometers underground. Or drowning in the ocean because it's too deep and you don't have enough oxygen.
Or you have enough oxygen, but find an unusually large, hungry fish. Which I'm kind of both dreading and hope happens at the same time.
UncleSporky
Member
Miles Quaritch
Member
My hope is everything is truly randomized. I'd love to start one game and waste five hours having to scavenge resources and I'd equally love to start a new game and only have to spent an hour thanks to stumbling across some 'free' resources that make things much easier.
That's my hope. Anything less would make it seem like upgrading milestones are set in stone and would pull me out of the game a little bit.
That's my hope. Anything less would make it seem like upgrading milestones are set in stone and would pull me out of the game a little bit.
More_Badass
Member
It's confirmed that something major will happen when you reach the center. It's not clear what exactly will happen.
In an IGN interview, Sean said that you can play after reaching the center, but new things become available for you
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
More_Badass
Member
Oh, and here were those crab-like creatures
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Ok i can deal with those.Oh, and here were those crab-like creatures
Zenlightened
Banned
More_Badass
Member
Oh, sure, those are tiny. But that confirms that there are insect-style species in the game, which means the proceduration generation could produce spider species as big as dinosaurs
I hear you take a psych eval before the game starts and from that it calculates your deepest, darkest fears and then manifests them in the procedural generation of your starting planet.
Think about the big fish from Mario 3 and you are on one lonely floating platform in the middle of cloudy open water.
More_Badass
Member
Se_7_eN
Member
We can nuke from orbit, right?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You guys are legit making not wanna land after i leave the first planet
Icyflamez96
Member
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture...d-the-limits-of-the-limitless-20160607?page=4
Found a quote from this recent article that's interesting. I can see how someone might fall into this loop. You can try to upgrade a broad amount of resistance types in an attempt to be able to withstand any random situation that comes your way. Or if you want a more sure constant, specialize in one thing like cold resistance so that it's always pretty safe for you to go on ice planets and explore them. The colder planets should normally be near the outside of their solar systems, so you'd know roughly where to look for them too.
Found a quote from this recent article that's interesting. I can see how someone might fall into this loop. You can try to upgrade a broad amount of resistance types in an attempt to be able to withstand any random situation that comes your way. Or if you want a more sure constant, specialize in one thing like cold resistance so that it's always pretty safe for you to go on ice planets and explore them. The colder planets should normally be near the outside of their solar systems, so you'd know roughly where to look for them too.
Pop
Member
I would nope right out of that planet.
eyeball_kid
Member
Right, any other traveler would see major changes. But blowing up a space station, or causing the extinction of an entire species, would be very hard to do. I doubt it's possible to blow up a world Death Star style.
It's most likely you'll never see that kind of alteration. The chance of even seeing the traces of other players is small. As you get towards the center that chance may increase because everyone is heading for one central point. Sean has described the multiplayer aspect as more of a Journey experience, where you don't directly interact with other players. But people get their hopes up when they hear about multiplayer, so my advice is, assume you won't ever see another player directly. It's a big universe out there.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
My main concern right now is how long it takes to reach the center.
Awesome, thank you! Personally I'm not even interested in seeing other players, I'm more interested in possibly seeing the effect of their actions waaaaay later on and trying to piece together what happened. Like some kind of weird, player-created Dark Souls lore you know?
More_Badass
Member
The range I've seen mentioned is 40-100 hours to reach the center
The only way I would see base building working in a wandering game like this is if people could build mobile space stations with hyperdrives.
Right now you can only have one ship at a time, but I would imagine players building space stations to store all their resource and dock multiple ships, kind of like the Bebop on Cowboy Bebop. They'd use the space station or mothership to travel between systems, then use the smaller ships to travel between planets or on planets.
Probably never gonna happen though.
Right now you can only have one ship at a time, but I would imagine players building space stations to store all their resource and dock multiple ships, kind of like the Bebop on Cowboy Bebop. They'd use the space station or mothership to travel between systems, then use the smaller ships to travel between planets or on planets.
Probably never gonna happen though.
base shagohod
Member
This post pretty much sums up my actual excitement for playing this.. Playing it like the biggest RPG I've ever played.
Aside from the exploration, everything else is like icing on a cake I can never finish.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the RP(G) promise of this game. When he mentioned you do have dialogue with NPCs and the mechanic of learning their langauge to figure out the "right" answer (or at least the answer the NPC wants), I was going nuts. That is really the only thing it was missing for some real RP potential.
Chezzymann
Member
I wonder if the center is something lame like an inspirational message voiced by Morgan Freeman
ichtyander
Member
Or Rutger Hauer.
But Sean's hinted more than once that reaching the center is related to end-game content, that you'd have an incentive to keep playing and do some new stuff if you want to.
The thing is, even though their wording has been vague, the running theory is that at first you're exploring a single galaxy (let's say a few hundred billion star systems), and reaching its center opens the gates to traveling to other galaxies, and possibly adding new mechanics (or making old mechanics more important or work in a different way) so that exploring other galaxies becomes somewhat easier and faster, but also perhaps more dangerous and lucrative, as well as having a new goal, like cleaning all galaxies of the Sentinel influence, or exploring and charting the universe on a more massive scale, harnessing the power of stars and black holes, something grandiose like that.
It might not be anything like that, but I have a feeling that the post-center gameplay might require more grinding, something that is a long-term goal but requires a lot of effort from the entire playerbase. Maybe even things like looking for points of interest, say something like artefacts or ancient temples, items, places etc. that had no real importance during your journey to the center, but you now discover they are crucial to your grand goal, so you need to find and interact with them. Maybe you'll get a new item, like a compass/radar that blips if you're closer to the thing you're looking for (in the galactic map, all the way to a planet's surface), so all of a sudden you are actually all treasure hunters on a universal scale.
Hello Games could potentially do this with updates as well, with a new patch now seeding a few new objects on certain planets, equipping you with the means to find them and hints on how to do it and where to start. It should work without interfering with the procedural generation system, because the algorithm will still generate the planet in the exact same way, plus the object on coordinates x,y,z. It might be boring for some people, but it also might freshen up the game after hours of gameplay and create new incentives for some players.
blacklotus
Member
Well. Can't go into detail since verifiying my source would probably kill it, but yeah. Been pretty excited about this since i first heard about, and right now i'm worried.
That is all.
The amount of time this game gets at Sony's conference will determine much to me.
You'll pretty much have to make your own goals in games like this. Hello Games just put in the "center of the universe" thing I think for the sake of people more used to traditional games with traditional goals. When I started Elite: Dangeorus I decided I was just going to be an explorer, and make my way towards interesting planets while scanning things along the way.
Your screenshots proved my points further. Orange grass, green grass, etc. The next planet I predict will have a different color grass, but it is still $grass_color = setGrassColor(random_seed_number).
The repetitiveness is knowing the existence of procedural algorithms, objects, classes, and extension of classes. They are defined and have their constraints. Many of us in this forum are programmers/developers...put 5 of them in a locked room, and the whiteboard will be filled with archetypes and design specifications:
So every planet with life will have trees:
-Leaves will be connected to branches.
-Branches will be connected to a trunk.
-The trunk will be embedded into the ground.
Each "node/object" will have properties:
-Leaves can be only one color (all the trees I've seen in screenshots are of one color)
-Branches can have multiple thickness.
-Trunks can be straight to curved.
Define the valid variable ranges:
-The trunk cannot be thinner than the branches...etc.
-(Akin to sports game player models where the joints cannot hyperextend)
That's why I say the "magic" is exposed by all this hype and procedural algorithms. So many are trying to picture the game mechanics that they are already "defining" the procedural algorithms. This will quickly lead to "meh, another planet, another dinosaur..."
Thor Molecules
Member
Good thing there'll be more to the game than trees, leaves and grass.
eyeball_kid
Member
These are four different planets in just one star system (video):
So I'm not too concerned about the proc gen system. There are hundreds of base models from which the procedural generation does its work, and things are generated in ways that resemble how our real universe works. If all you can do is think about the numbers and variables when you look at these screenshots, it might not be the game for you.
I'd also say that this game is going to have many more strange creatures than the usual orcs and stereotypical aliens you see in most games. If anything regarding the proc gen may disappoint in some way, it'll probably be the skeletal animation. But I haven't seen any creatures that look terrible so far.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Who is going to restart the game if they're put on a planet that's not to their liking and who's going to suffer luck and strive to conquer adversity?
I'm going to accept my fate.
I'm going to accept my fate.
valkillmore
Member
hell yeah man, my thoughts too
I'll be accepting my fate as well. Hopefully I don't get a terrible planet!
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I can't see it being too extreme though, we know we start off with nothing but the basics so it wouldn't be fair to put us on a planet with acidic rain. They wouldn't do that to us would they? In a perverse way, I hope they do.