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No Man's Sky Review Thread: The Scores Have Arrived (read OP)
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Yes I would rate things I don't enjoy with a low score regardless of how well made those things are.
I don't mean to be a prick but it seems to me you haven't thought through your concept of review scores at all.
Edit - The goal of a review is not to hit as close to the eventual metacritic average as possible, that doesn't make you any more or less 'right' than any other review. A game I made was once reviewed ~5 months apart by two reviewers but for the same site (second platform release but identical core game experience and price etc) and the difference was massive with scores of 2.5/5 and 4/5 respectively. Both reviews were as legitimate as each other.
Chill Penguin
Member
Consensus seems to be it's mediocre but it's a pleasant universe to explore. All that hype for mediocrity, oh well.
Real talk, as someone who put over 100 hours into FTL: FTL has far, far more depth than NMS.
bananafactory
Banned
Precisely.
Yeah I've cancelled my steam preorder and going to wait for a sale. I think I would buy at £20 not £40. Seems to me reading a few reviews that nothing is done fantastically well such as the combat/crafting but the space exploration looks decent enough.
I saw a poster recommended subnatica so I may well try that for £14.99 instead.
I saw a poster recommended subnatica so I may well try that for £14.99 instead.
Maybe the grinding, some people find that quite boring. I'm being 100 % honest here, the lastest Xenoblade put me to sleep, literally. I couldn't play it for more than 20 minutes wihtout dozing off, while my sessions of NM'S usually end up with I looking at the clock and saying: "Holy shite, it's been 5 hours since I started playing".
Gunslinger
Member
Imo this game is the ultimate example quantity over quality. A game can have infinite amount of "open world" but if the gameplay is not there / not fun (imo) then your video game is trash, which this game is(imo). I do praise hello games for the technological achievements. I hope others can use this technology to make a better game. Also once again I am happy to see gameplay is still king in video games. That's why games like overwatch or sfv still played very actively while games like this will be forgotten in a month. If the gameplay is not there then your game will be trash imo.
Linkstrikesback
Member
That's a lot of people to DDOS!
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I own Subnautica, 7Days2die, Project Zomboid, The Forest, The Long Dark, Frozen State, Starbound, Minecraft, Teraria, H1Z1, Stranded Deep, Don't Starve, Sheltered, This War of Mine, Hurtworld, Neo Scavenger, and probably a few others I'm missing.
Of those I think Starbound, Frozen State, Teraria, Minecraft, war of mine, and Neo Scavenger are out of early access....
Just seems like a trend for this genre...
Sounds like it had a foundation but needs more content/gameplay depth.
Edit: rim world also but that could be called done tomorrow and I'd feel that it's accurate.
Of those I think Starbound, Frozen State, Teraria, Minecraft, war of mine, and Neo Scavenger are out of early access....
Just seems like a trend for this genre...
Sounds like it had a foundation but needs more content/gameplay depth.
Edit: rim world also but that could be called done tomorrow and I'd feel that it's accurate.
The problem is that the crappy game elements do their best to get in the way of the chill exploration every chance they get. If I could ignore half of the games mechanics (which is a hilarious qualification to have to make to enjoy a game), I would.
Kssio_Aug
Member
But if you do recognise that a game is "extremely well done", even if you do not enjoy it for some reson, what's the point of giving it a 3/10?
Reviews and scores are subjective cause people have different opinions and experiences based up on their minds, lifestyle, traumas, and whatever, but an score still needs to make sense to be worth mentioning.
It's not because you decided you don't like a game you should score it with such low value if you recognise it's qualities.
Anyway, that's what I don't like about scores, they are hardly fair when even the people giving it are not sure how to use it.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
This is the main problem here. If we remove the big marketing that pushed it to full price AAA title the game would have sold less but got more postive reviews becuase it was expected for it to be a small fairly priced indie title.
With continual support by the team (if they warrant it profitable enough), then it may eventually become what people hyped it to be.
As it is now, it merely reflects the size and manpower of the small team of 10+.
Not to say one-man wrecking balls can't make amazing games, but those are the exceptions.
As it is now, it merely reflects the size and manpower of the small team of 10+.
Not to say one-man wrecking balls can't make amazing games, but those are the exceptions.
chillybright
Banned
An extended tech demo is still a tech demo.
I expect review score from Alex Navarro to be 4/5, he seems to be enjoying it.
I expect review score from Alex Navarro to be 4/5, he seems to be enjoying it.
Netherscourge
Banned
wow - the scores are all over the freaking place.
Nobody has any idea how to review a game like this.
You either love it or hate it and it's based almost completely on your own personal expectations.
Nobody has any idea how to review a game like this.
You either love it or hate it and it's based almost completely on your own personal expectations.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I own Subnautica, 7Days2die, Project Zomboid, The Forest, The Long Dark, Frozen State, Starbound, Minecraft, Teraria, H1Z1, Stranded Deep, Don't Starve, Sheltered, This War of Mine, Hurtworld, Neo Scavenger, and probably a few others I'm missing.
Of those I think Starbound, Frozen State, Teraria, Minecraft, war of mine, and Neo Scavenger are out of early access....
Just seems like a trend for this genre...
Sounds like it had a foundation but needs more content/gameplay depth.
Edit: rim world also but that could be called done tomorrow and I'd feel that it's accurate.
Zomboid is getting that big 3d animation up date tho!
What?
Bl@de
Member
Katy Perry makes extremely well produced music that I hate listening to.
As a game developer I can tell when something is well produced but the experience itself is far more important to me than the production qualities in terms of personal enjoyment.
My 3/10 mention was an indicator of what I would review the games as if someone asked me to use a 10 point scale, which I normally wouldn't do. I think numbers are not a great way to condense your views on a thing.
The game is exactly what I feared. Procedurally generated environments with generic, shallow game mechanics are not the kinds of levels or games or stories I like to invest my time in.
I have respect for the creator and what he made but it appears it's just not my thing. I need something with more attention crafted into its levels and mechanics.
18 quintillion planets doesn't automatically make something fun for me.
I hope it does well so he can make a sequel with more polish and depth.
I have respect for the creator and what he made but it appears it's just not my thing. I need something with more attention crafted into its levels and mechanics.
18 quintillion planets doesn't automatically make something fun for me.
I hope it does well so he can make a sequel with more polish and depth.
They saw it got a lot of excitement after the VGA debut and realized they could use it to push themselves as the indie console of choice.
The actual final product doesn't really matter from that perspective, because they got a lot of the perception/sales benefit out of having it already.
It's like the whole GTA DLC thing for Xbox 360 last generation.
If you like Endless Ocean you should get right in there.
Cob32
Member
It sounds incredible on paper let's face it.
Interesting scores. What I've seen in streams and impressions videos makes me think this one isn't for me. It looks like a very shallow experience, with only basic exploration of random worlds and no meta game beyond generic survival/upgrade tracks and a very vague "go this direction" goal. I kind of still want to give it a shot, but the price is really high for what's on offer.
Survival elements. There's a lot of breaking rocks and trees to keep your bars filled.
Survival elements. There's a lot of breaking rocks and trees to keep your bars filled.
aggienader
Member
I'm getting some major Destiny vibes about nearly every aspect to this game. Expectations, game's style, development, etc... it's kinda crazy.
With that said, just like Destiny, I am really enjoying this game.
With that said, just like Destiny, I am really enjoying this game.
ViolentP
Member
I think Sony perceived this title in a similar way as many on this forum did.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I kept debating but im gon not buy it until it drops price
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
"People need to be instructed on how to enjoy games".
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
Does it actually bother you that many people are enjoying this game?
Ouch, so crashes reduced the score.
I hope they rereview after any patches that would resolve most known problems like the crashes.
Sure the game isn't the second coming, but I think it deserves more of a higher score than a lower score because of crashes.
Given the procedural generation resulting in the massive galaxy, they probably couldn't test for everything.
I hope they rereview after any patches that would resolve most known problems like the crashes.
Sure the game isn't the second coming, but I think it deserves more of a higher score than a lower score because of crashes.
Given the procedural generation resulting in the massive galaxy, they probably couldn't test for everything.
DarkConfidant
Member
Yeah, everyone's expectations seem to be playing a big part in the reviews I've read. I've never seen it like this with a game.
It's an 8 or 9 from me. Do I baffle you?
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
final score is probably gonna settle around 65, ill pick up my copy tomorrow so i yet cant say much about it
Netherscourge
Banned
It's primarily a survival game, with unlimited exploration, a little bit of FPS gameplay, a little bit of space sim gameplay.
The scope is massive, the gameplay is repetitive and your visual experiences are always varied, while also feeling familiar.
You could pour 100s of hours into the game and never get anywhere, which could make you feel like you didn't get your $60 worth.
But yet you felt compelled to pour 100 hours into the game, which means you got your $60 worth and more.
So what do you score the game on? The journey itself, which is limitless or the destination, of which there really is none?
It's a pretty difficult game to review or give a rating to.
Bloodporne
Member
I personally don't understand how any videogame with such incredibly weak and thin mechanics can even objectively be given a 9/10 for example. I mean, go buckwild but I think it's actually surprising people can overlook something like that to this degree in favor of the complete experience. I have to say I don't even think the mechanics are just objectively bad, especially compared to most games out there that have similar components.
exmachina64
Banned
Subnautica's still very much a work in progress.
DarkChronic
Member
I know we joke about the "but what do you DO" phrase a lot, but I think the worries panned out.
I'm about 10 hours in. Enjoying myself so far, because everything is still new. I have a feeling that might fade soon.
There just doesn't seem to be an objective. At all. You collect materials to get to the next planet so you can collect materials again to get to the next planet.
It's a weird game. 6-7/10 sounds right.
I'm about 10 hours in. Enjoying myself so far, because everything is still new. I have a feeling that might fade soon.
There just doesn't seem to be an objective. At all. You collect materials to get to the next planet so you can collect materials again to get to the next planet.
It's a weird game. 6-7/10 sounds right.
Kssio_Aug
Member
And I understand that. I don't think that if you do not enjoy a game you should give it highh scores.
If you don't like a game it's because of reasons you may list negatively impacted your experience, reason why it may not score well.
However, if you didn't enjoy but recognise it was an extremely good production you should value that characteristic and give them credit for this. In other words, the game should not deserve an horrible score either.
That's not the case of what has been happening to NMS score though. By what I've been reading reviews and the points given seems fair with one another.