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No-One Lives Forever: Retro PC Time Capsule vs PlayStation 2 - A Monolith Classic Revisited
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KaiserBecks
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You look like you need a monkey!
Lucifers Beard
Member
Shame as I’d love to play these. Outside of owning the CDs I don’t believe there is a legitimate way of playing them.
01011001
Banned
as someone who was in a retro shooter craze a few months ago, I tried playing the NOLF games... and oh boy are they dogshit...
I can not for the life of me understand why they have this cult following. they might be among the worst shooters of that era that I personally played recently and/or came in contact with at the time.
maybe they get better in the later levels, but I tried sticking with them and just couldn't for more than 2 missions + tutorial or so each.
after always hearing about how great NOLF is and what a shame it is that the IP is dead, I was honestly shocked at how bad they were.
I can not for the life of me understand why they have this cult following. they might be among the worst shooters of that era that I personally played recently and/or came in contact with at the time.
maybe they get better in the later levels, but I tried sticking with them and just couldn't for more than 2 missions + tutorial or so each.
after always hearing about how great NOLF is and what a shame it is that the IP is dead, I was honestly shocked at how bad they were.
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KaiserBecks
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Well how could you possibly understand if you only played 2 missions or so.
01011001
Banned
a game that sucks for 2 full missions doesn't deserve to be played longer than that
during those 2 missions each, I encountered some of the worst leveldesign and mission design that era of shooters has to offer
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CleverCaviar
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sadly, this is still true. There's a few projects out there modernising the code, ala ioquake type of thing, but you'd still need the original games to pluck the asset archives off of.
moniker
Member
The gameplay isn't the best (though I don't think it's that horrible either). What is great though is the writing (story, characters, the banter between the bad guys which is often hilarious etc.), and level locale variety (which is nuts).
For anyone that want to play this, just go to http://nolfrevival.tk/. It's unclear who even owns the rights at this point (though Nightdive Studios own the trademark), and the chances that this will get a re-release is nearly zero.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I really miss NOLF and other Monolith-style FPS games. TRON, Shogo and FEAR are carried me through my high-school and student years. Really wish that at one point we're at least get a NOLF remake.
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SportsFan581
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What year did this release? Almost looks like a PS1 game with a bit of a facelift.
sertopico
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Ok zoomer.
diffusionx
Gold Member
this is by far the most notable omission on GOG, it's one of the best FPS games of the era
For me gamepad support is really important so I play a lot of these old PC games on consoles if I can. On PCSX2 you can get the game to run at 60FPS, in widescreen, fix the aspect ratio and use quicksaves which the port really needed.
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I'm still waiting for mecha FPS where you can stomp tanks, like in Shogo.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I loved these games. I remember buying it from Toys "R" Us back in 2000. Great box the cover really sold me on the game. This was during the Austin Powers era and there was a lot of it's influence in those games. Cate came off like Vanessa Kensington from the first Austin Powers.
Sexy Cate:
Bonus sexy Elizabeth Hurley:
Sexy Cate:
Bonus sexy Elizabeth Hurley:
winjer
Gold Member
While fighting ninjas.
Forsythia
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Man, I love these games. Still have the dvd's, but there is no shame in downloading the "fan patches" as mentioned earlier in this thread, as there is no easy way to get these games nowadays. What a shame these games aren't on GOG. Will probably never happen.
Too bad Contract JACK was the last game in the series, because that one sucked ass.
Too bad Contract JACK was the last game in the series, because that one sucked ass.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Pick one.
AlteredForms
Banned
Night Dive are still fighting for the rights for this thing, but the question is who are they fighting with? Nobody even knows who holds the damn rights to the series, I believe it was last Activision and in that case we're doomed. NOLF was a great shooter with some amazingly varied environments, soundtrack, characters and weapons. The level design is so good that moving through bland and dreary warehouses is still enjoyable. Ironically in a game about espionage and sneaking, the stealth mechanics are absolutely lacklustre and it's pretty much impossible to sneak through the game without mashing the reload button.
graywolf323
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the problem is the rights were split across various companies which have since been absorbed, merged, acquired, etc. to the point no one’s legal team is even sure who owns what nor do they want to go to the trouble of figuring it out (since that would cost money)
basically the rights are split across Disney (acquisition of Fox), WB (bought Monolith), and ABK (merged with Vivendi) so it’s a completely mess
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ShaiKhulud1989
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Well, if Blade Runner game was re-released (at it was a mess of epic proportions), maybe someone will be crazy enough to revive NOLF.
Antwix
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Probably for the best. I can't imagine a new release of this franchise in 2023 would be anything worth playing. Same reason why I have zero expectations for Perfect Dark.
March Climber
Gold Member
Both would just need good level designers. That was the main draw of both franchises.
winjer
Gold Member
Several gams have already received good remasters or remakes.
A recent example is System Shock, from Nightdive Studios.
Back then games tailored to high end PCs had compromised versions on consoles, Max Payne for example ran with slowdowns and worse textures on PS2, Soldier of Fortune was a loading nightmare, Half Life 2 had a very choppy framerate on OG Xbox, ironically enough Doom 3 ran well despite its obvious cuts.
ClanOfNone
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Still one of the greatest fps set pieces ever, it was some amazing shit.
Hayabusa83
Banned
Cold Winter was another games from this era that I thoroughly enjoyed. Great shooter for the PS2.
Puscifer
Member
It's a period piece for sure. There was a serious nostalgia kick in the early 2000s with Kung Fu Revival stuff, retro aesthetics from that 70s show and Austin Powers and movies like Kill Bill that this aesthetic fit right in at the time. I remember liking them at the time but I'm going to be 100% honest in saying that nostalgia is best left in the past
Yah same for me but for some weird reason it seems alot of PC FPS gamers of the era where really clamering for an Austin Powers FPS crossover. Go figure.
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KuraiShidosha
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I'm not a fan of this format for DF:Retro. I miss the older episodes where it was just John discussing the history and technology behind old games, their launch experience and the general assessment of framerate and problems the old games had. They felt like genuine Grade A old school TV quality content. Reminded me a lot of the classic G4TV show Icons, but with the focus being the game itself rather than the studio or people behind it. These discord streams are boring and come off kinda lazy.
crackajack
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Imho the first truly good shooter. Fuck Unreal or HL (or Quake or Duke).
This together with MoH AA, Goldeneye and finally CoD4 set the foundation for the now much neglected corridor shooter genre.
This together with MoH AA, Goldeneye and finally CoD4 set the foundation for the now much neglected corridor shooter genre.