Playstation fans speak now or forever hold your peace.

Danjin44 said:
My current issue with Playstation this gen as whole is they stopped making games that I like.

Other than Team ASOBI they don't have any studio to make the games I want.
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GHG said:
Yep, and ironically it's their failure to continue to supply those kinds of games which has led them to this point where they are chasing scraps on other platforms to pad out their GAAS and "engagement" metrics.
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Should have bought Knack 2.
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Glad I did, great co-op platformer.
 
why is it that xbox is dying yet Sony gaf is the one having melt downs and getting bans?

SweetTooth, QLQ, James Sawyer, etc. got permanent bans and others are getting temp bans

if Sony is doing so well why is Sony gaf losing their mind
 
TintoConCasera said:
Plus, Xbros getting your games is only benefitial for you because that means easy money for PS and it's studios. Everybody wins, except the brand loyalists.
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Hmm where have I heard this before?…

Let's take a trip back in time…

2016, when the first PC ports of Xbox games started happening…
dancrane212 said:
Opening up Xbox will help Microsoft games become more successful which will allow for projects like Alan Wake 2 or even more risky new IP to happen and even allow for a bigger community for games you care about. Is "losing" justification for owning your console not worth having more successful games?
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Thread 'Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners'

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With this mornings rumor that Quantum Break will also be releasing on the PC alongside the Xbox One version I, like usual, saw folk online lamenting the “loss” of an exclusive game for their console or saying that MS was now “down” another exclusive. Same goes for when ReCore was announced for PC or Sea of Thieves - seems like this always happens with a PC announcement.

I don’t understand why some folk only see this movement as a negative thing. Sure, if you just shelled out money for a console to specifically play...

I'm not singling out this person, pretty sure I've said similar things myself, but I know how I think today:

I need a Switch 2.
I don't need a Xbox.
I don't need a PlayStation.

It's 100% about proper exclusives.

I don't think this middle road of timed exclusivity is working.
Either 1. Go full third party day 1 everywhere and rake in money from literally everyone.
Or 2. Close it all up. 100% exclusives. Boost the platform hype. Make it impossible for any serious gamer to skip the platform.
 
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I collect VHS tapes said:
why is it that xbox is dying yet Sony gaf is the one having melt downs and getting bans?

SweetTooth, QLQ, James Sawyer, etc. got permanent bans and others are getting temp bans

if Sony is doing so well why is Sony gaf losing their mind
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You are overlooking some prominent Xbox GAFers on that list my man. Little Chicken, IndigoSociety, eastwood_333. Warriors are warriors.
 
I collect VHS tapes said:
why is it that xbox is dying yet Sony gaf is the one having melt downs and getting bans?

SweetTooth, QLQ, James Sawyer, etc. got permanent bans and others are getting temp bans

if Sony is doing so well why is Sony gaf losing their mind
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Lol remember when that GHG guy was trying to flame you, for being an Xbox fanboy or someshit. Then today he had a total meltdown over.....helldivers 2 coming to Xbox. I love this place.
 
Topher said:
Is that song in Death Stranding?
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The first one, yeah. In the very beginning (at least). Have you started it? Even if you're playing on PC, DualSense is worth it, and worth the hassle of having it corded. Few games outside Sony's own studios use the haptics/adaptive triggers that well.
 
Xbox 360 slim said:
Lol remember when that GHG guy was trying to flame you, for being an Xbox fanboy or someshit. Then today he had a total meltdown over.....helldivers 2 coming to Xbox. I love this place.
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I get what you are saying, but GHG GHG calling out Sony for being stupid is the opposite of being a "fanboy", isn't it?

nowhat said:
The first one, yeah. In the very beginning (at least). Have you started it? Even if you're playing on PC, DualSense is worth it, and worth the hassle of having it corded. Few games outside Sony's own studios use the haptics/adaptive triggers that well.
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I played some last week and remembered that song. Planning on jumping back in at some point. So many games right now.
 
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Bro, these are pixels on a screen. Bad product, I don't buy. I'm not going digging into who makes the games, I play. I know two names that I remember from this board.

The guy who made Metal Gear games and the Bloodborne guy, If you said their names I will recognize them, but off my head while writing I cannot.

If it goes past that Australian dude that reviews games that my son shows me, that is too much effort for games.
 
Topher said:
I get what you are saying, but GHG GHG calling out Sony for being stupid is the opposite of being a "fanboy", isn't it?



I played some last week and remembered that song. Planning on jumping back in at some point. So many games right now.
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Sure, he's not a "fanboy". Just a very combative fan, lol
 
Topher said:
You are overlooking some prominent Xbox GAFers on that list my man. Little Chicken, IndigoSociety, eastwood_333. Warriors are warriors.
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that's my bad, Little Chicken is somewhat familiar but the other two I don't recognize. I'm guessing the xbox crowd is easier to miss because xbox has had few wins lately that people can really show off or talk about. it seems like much of that crowd has gotten quiet while they wait to see what xbox does next (which based on the Quest branding, doesn't look that optimistic)

I expect xbox meltdowns because I mean just look at the news coming out on xbox. The high amount of Sony meltdowns is a bit more surprising to me. I didn't think things were as dire yet for Sony.
Xbox 360 slim said:
Lol remember when that GHG guy was trying to flame you, for being an Xbox fanboy or someshit. Then today he had a total meltdown over.....helldivers 2 coming to Xbox. I love this place.
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the funny part is that he seems to have taken a stance closer to what I was arguing when he was getting into it with me

I basically was arguing the way Sony is operating, there isn't much sense to own a playstation going forward

I think some of Sony gaf is starting to accept that the reasons they used to love Sony are starting to vanish. partly due to the focus on GAAS instead of Japanese stuff combined with the lack of exclusives.
 
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Just like people called a lot of things happening at xbox now, myself included. im calling my shot on playstation, writings on the wall and people are acting exactly like xbox fandom did in the beginning… and still are being very dismissive mocking etc. But the internet remembers and so i will revisit this thread and make sure to tag all of the coprorate bootlickers and undercover shills who added nothing of discourse.

i'd love to be wrong about PlayStations direction, but its clear their own user base isnt the priority. There is an old saying "listen to what they say, watch what they do" and they can change and do both at the drop of a dime.
 
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I collect VHS tapes said:
that's my bad, Little Chicken is somewhat familiar but the other two I don't recognize. I'm guessing the xbox crowd is easier to miss because xbox has had few wins lately that people can really show off or talk about. it seems like much of that crowed has gotten quiet while they wait to see what xbox does next (which based on the Quest branding, doesn't look that optimistic)

I expect xbox meltdowns because I mean just look at the news coming out on xbox. The high amount of Sony meltdowns is a bit more surprising to me. I didn't think things were as dire yet for Sony.
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Outside of guys like @Sweet Tooth, I'd say some of those bans were more about people being dicks to other people. If I had the power to unban any of them, I'd unban a fanboy before I unban an asshole
 
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Outside of guys like @Sweet Tooth, I'd say some of those bans were more about people being dicks to other people. If I had the power to unban any of them, I'd unban a fanboy before I unban an asshole
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most of the bans don't link to the post so it is a tad difficult for me to decipher what exactly happened. I just know they were butting heads on console stuff right around when the bans happen so I assumed it was console warring.

I mean, is the being an asshole related to console allegiance? because isn't that sort of the same thing, just a toxic type of fanboy instead of your typical fanboy?
 
kyoji said:
Pay attention to the bootlickers in this thread. Who offer no counter no real conversation this is who are ok with this and a slow spiral of admission to sony own faults. Pay attention. Its the same as with super xbox fans. And it all starts as one thing and leads to another.
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This is an elaborate shit post. There is no way you're being serious.

If it is real, please get help. It's just a games console. It's not the end of the world. To make you feel better, unlike Microsoft, Sony consoles are selling really well. Sony will be around for a long time.
 
IDKFA said:
This is an elaborate shit post. There is no way you're being serious.

If it is real, please get help. It's just a games console. It's not the end of the world. To make you feel better, unlike Microsoft, Sony consoles are selling really well. Sony will be around for a long time.
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"Sony this sony that" worried about their bottom line and how they will be around a long time, but what about the console fan/user and how these moves affects them? But your point taken and noted, corpo stan
 
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Xbox 360 slim said:
Lol remember when that GHG guy was trying to flame you, for being an Xbox fanboy or someshit. Then today he had a total meltdown over.....helldivers 2 coming to Xbox. I love this place.
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GHG is not a fanboy specifically because he has the intellectual honesty not to gaslight himself about Sony's stupid decisions.

Observing reality and having a problem with decision making is not fanboyism simply because it leans towards exclusivity as opposed to multiplatformism. The latter argues that "more people get to play", and it's now been proven that LESS people play despite being given that choice. It's like I said in a thread that asked why gaming seems worse off despite being more versatile and accessible than ever. Maximum accessibility and versatility don't comport with the priorities of people who spend the time, attention and money to play core games.
 
I collect VHS tapes said:
I expect xbox meltdowns because I mean just look at the news coming out on xbox. The high amount of Sony meltdowns is a bit more surprising to me. I didn't think things were as dire yet for Sony.
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The actual truth is Xbox fans have pretty much nothing to worry about for the forseeable future. They're going to stick with all Xbox games, Gamepass, and soon have options for virtually everything else available through PC stores while maintaining BC with their library. There's really no downside except some more expensive hardware. The shock of fully giving up on exclusives occurred 16 months ago.

PlayStation fans are still expecting physical games to be supported forever. They're not even thinking about the decline of exclusives, or anything even resembling the shifting landscape of the next 10 years. Massive meltdowns are a near certainty. PS will always be around, but what many of these people wont admit is at least some of them are not even really happy with PS this gen. They enjoy holding exclusives over others more than just about anything as it masks their disappointment. They're stuck on PS and really have nothing else to do but enjoy these bragging rights victories, like exclusives, or sales data. It's all they've got to hold on to. PC was a big indignity, Switch was an insult, putting something on Xbox is unthinkable.
 
kyoji said:
"Sony this sony that" worried about their bottom line and how they will be around a long time, but what about the console fan/user and how these moves affects them? But your point taken and noted, corpo stan
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So a person playing a game on another platform is taking away from your user expeirence? How?
 
Topher said:
Thank God for AI:

The main point of the forum post is a critique of PlayStation's current leadership and business strategy, expressing concern that the company is alienating its core fanbase by prioritizing short-term profits and following industry trends, particularly by releasing games on non-PlayStation platforms and pursuing strategies like live-service games. The poster argues that these moves are damaging the brand's long-term value and could lead to the loss of loyal customers, which they see as the beginning of a decline for PlayStation.

Key points and concerns raised in the post:

  • Leadership Criticism: The author believes PlayStation's leadership is "compromised" and out of touch with the core audience, echoing a broader sentiment found in gaming forums that current executives are more focused on business metrics than on understanding gamers' needs125.
  • Trend-Chasing and Westernization: The post criticizes both Western and Japanese leadership for "chasing what the west is doing and trends," suggesting that neither approach is currently serving the PlayStation brand well12.
  • Devaluing the Core Fanbase: The author feels PlayStation is "devaluing and belittling their own core fanbase" by expanding to other platforms and shifting focus away from exclusive, innovative titles14.
  • Perception and Marketing: The post emphasizes that "perception is everything in marketing," warning that the strategy of releasing PlayStation games on other platforms could cause long-term harm to the brand, despite any short-term financial gains4.
  • Voting with Wallet and Habits: The author intends to stop supporting PlayStation's new direction financially and encourages other dedicated fans to speak up or risk being complicit in the brand's decline.
  • Historical Parallels and Warnings: There is a warning that PlayStation could repeat mistakes made by competitors (specifically referencing Xbox), and that once the core audience is lost, it's difficult to recover4.
Overall, the post is a call to action for PlayStation fans to voice their concerns and resist changes they see as harmful, while warning that the current path could lead to the brand's long-term decline. This perspective is echoed in other discussions where fans express frustration over PlayStation's focus on profit, trend-chasing, and a perceived disconnect between leadership and the gaming community1245.
Add to follow-up
  1. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/playstation-is-missing-creative-leadership.1675161/
  2. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/playstation-is-missing-creative-leadership.1675161/page-2
  3. https://icon-era.com/threads/does-jim-ryan-owe-playstation-and-the-community-an-apology.16046/
  4. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony...urrently-their-gaming-business.1677242/page-6
  6. https://www.marca.com/en/technology/gaming/2024/12/03/674eee39e2704ea2728b45a6.html
  7. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/81000687?page=2
  8. https://homestuck.net/official/formspring/
  9. https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/p...last-of-us-days-gone-report-twitter-reaction/
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What is this, Enigma?
 
I collect VHS tapes said:
most of the bans don't link to the post so it is a tad difficult for me to decipher what exactly happened. I just know they were butting heads on console stuff right around when the bans happen so I assumed it was console warring.

I mean, is the being an asshole related to console allegiance? because isn't that sort of the same thing, just a toxic type of fanboy instead of your typical fanboy?
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I'll put it this way. I didn't engage very much with Mibu because the guy acted like anyone who didn't agree with him was an idiot. Same with that Schremdrick guy. So yeah....just toxic in general. Point is, there are all kinds on that ban list.

ChoosableOne said:
What is this, Enigma?
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Perplexity
 
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Xbox 360 slim said:
So a person playing a game on another platform is taking away from your user expeirence? How?
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In the short term, it does actually reduce the literal value of that console.

In the long term, it means that PlayStation will be less willing and able to even make the kinds of games that are currently being ported. Precisely the same as Microsoft.
 
ProtoByte said:
In the short term, it does actually reduce the literal value of that console.

In the long term, it means that PlayStation will be less willing and able to even make the kinds of games that are currently being ported. Precisely the same as Microsoft.
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What value? It still plays 3rd party AAA games. Indie, etc You just can't hold "i have a game you dont" over others heads anymore. So your precieved value is gone I guess....
 
Topher said:
I'll put it this way. I didn't engage very much with Mibu because the guy acted like anyone who didn't agree with him was an idiot. Same with that Schremdrick guy. So yeah....just toxic in general. Point is, there are all kinds on that ban list.



Perplexity
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I'm just struggling the reconcile even an even amount of meltdowns on each side when the negative news, if you go based on this website, seems to heavily weigh in favor of xbox

tbh I think this is largely the result of the following: the future of console video games isn't what the majority of console enthusiasts want, regardless of whether your loyalty is with Nintendo, xbox, playstation, etc. this is just going to lead to a lot of strong emotions over the next few years as we see the doing away with physical games, exclusives, rise in subscription services, more GAAS, etc. I think it is only becoming painfully obvious with Sony as of late

regardless of what console people own, I think everyone has more in common here than they'd think. they all mostly want the same thing, which also happens to be something Sony and MS seem to be moving away from
 
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