For 1 game, I suppose i should of said stir shit up. Not having xbox quick resume is a non-issue. Maybe because my ADHD isn't strong enough to see the point.
Mozza
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Can't you just press the home button and put the console in sleep mode?. The Switch 2 uses pretty fast media too.
Robb
Gold Member
It doesn't, it has the ability to have one game active in the background.
If you're out and about and your Switch battery runs out, you're going to have to start the game again and load a save once you're able to charge it. With QR you'd be able to just jump in from exactly where you were, and for multiple titles at that.
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Hyet
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Having 3 lockers is inferior to having 1 locker. But if your stuff fits in 1 locker you have no need for the superior option.
Yes it does, but:
- Are you suggesting we just power off the entire thing? That gives us having to wait for the cold boot + having to boot up game from some save. The console is desinged for use with sleep.
- Most people have it docked when not in use so battery consuption during sleep is a non issue
- Batter lasts for days upon days in sleep mode with no charge
Well, yeah, but most online swich games are match based games. Nobody expects to leave an online Mario Kart race/Smash match/Splatoon match and get back to it as it was yesterday.
Well, thing is people are not super bothered by this because they don't swap Swicth games constantly. Happens to me, happens to more people, no need for more regardless of being objectively inferior.
Same ol G
Member
Why should i, you already did that yourself.....
Largerly depends on the developer.
Went back to RDR2 this week and even on a 7.5GB/s SSD the load times are Bloodborne bad (actually worse - but in the ballpark). Never underestimate the capabilities of great devs to abuse your hardware.
You know - I 'wanted' to argue but then I remembered that when I had a PSP Go I used the feature like... 3 times and never bothered again.
Worse - later CFW unlocked 'arbitrary' number of save-states on all PSP models and I still didn't use it
.Still though - I think on a stationary console I'd be a bit more prone to using it if it was there.
Last I checked phones just swap things in memory and evict them when they run out, so all apps are built for quick-reloads because they're reloading more often than swapping.
I mean from that perspective all Windows devices support 'quick resume' - they'll even automatically swap to harddrive instead of killing apps like phones do. You'll also get crap performance once you start running out of RAM - but hey - it 'works'.
Also unlike the above - XBox/PSP implementations survive reboots, so it's not at all the same thing.
It could ostensibly consume less battery - you wouldn't want to hard-suspend a handheld, the whole point of it is 'instant on' behaviour - if you had to wait 30s for system to boot from hibernation each time it wouldn't be much use.
But yes - saving a game-state off would allow them to power down 'more' of the system in sleep mode, so it could lead to some battery savings.
In terms of visible benefits - multiple games would matter more - but as I said, when I actually had it on a handheld I practically never used it, so I'm not even sure.
Team Skoda
Neo Member
Then proceed to gaslight the industry marketing it as if they were the first to create such a feature.
Minsc
Gold Member
Largerly depends on the developer.
Went back to RDR2 this week and even on a 7.5GB/s SSD the load times are Bloodborne bad (actually worse - but in the ballpark). Never underestimate the capabilities of great devs to abuse your hardware.
You know - I 'wanted' to argue but then I remembered that when I had a PSP Go I used the feature like... 3 times and never bothered again.
Worse - later CFW unlocked 'arbitrary' number of save-states on all PSP models and I still didn't use it
Still though - I think on a stationary console I'd be a bit more prone to using it if it was there.
Last I checked phones just swap things in memory and evict them when they run out, so all apps are built for quick-reloads because they're reloading more often than swapping.
I mean from that perspective all Windows devices support 'quick resume' - they'll even automatically swap to harddrive instead of killing apps like phones do. You'll also get crap performance once you start running out of RAM - but hey - it 'works'.
Also unlike the above - XBox/PSP implementations survive reboots, so it's not at all the same thing.
It could ostensibly consume less battery - you wouldn't want to hard-suspend a handheld, the whole point of it is 'instant on' behaviour - if you had to wait 30s for system to boot from hibernation each time it wouldn't be much use.
But yes - saving a game-state off would allow them to power down 'more' of the system in sleep mode, so it could lead to some battery savings.
In terms of visible benefits - multiple games would matter more - but as I said, when I actually had it on a handheld I practically never used it, so I'm not even sure.
Yeah that's true, it's more robust on Xbox for sure. Phones don't survive reboots, but there's varying states of quick resume on them with games, where you can leave a F2P game in the background without needing to reload all the intros and crap, and you can even set ~3 apps to never get removed from memory on Samsung phones. But the Xbox implementation of VMs for all apps/games is ideal. Wish it worked that way in Windows, where everything you ran was inside its own VM and could be instantly resumed.
TBH, Edge and Chrome feel like this somewhat, when you close Edge with ~50 tabs open in tab groups, etc. Then re-open it after rebooting and it's all up in less than .1 seconds, all the tabs and pages there without refreshing them. I want that for everything!
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PlayStation doesn't have shit, the actual feature is that you can have multiple titles suspended.
If we go by your (flawed) logic, the Switch can also do it until the battery runs out.
ResilientBanana
Member
Quick Resume barely functions well and I usually have to quit the game and reload it.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
That's not a quick resume problem, that's the game. Online games will boot you off the servers if you aren't active, which makes sense.
Copying it when you switch would require power.
Hideous Snake
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Zannegan
Member
I mean, it's a nice little QoL feature, but not a hill I'd die on. In fact, with onboard storage space on Switch 2 already limited, I'd hate to have to carve out another, what, 12 GB per quick resume save state? If the new memory setup is quick enough, then a Playstation-like half version of quick resume is fine by me. Honestly, even the current Switch setup would be fine if it loads fast enough.
Killer8
Member
It's a nice feature on paper but I lost trust in it. Sometimes it would crash when resuming the game and i'd lose progress. I'm also not riddled with ADHD so don't need to be hot swapping 5 games at once.
Boot times thanks to the power of Nvme drives are so short nowadays that just cold booting the game from the dashboard takes a minimal amount of time anyways.
Boot times thanks to the power of Nvme drives are so short nowadays that just cold booting the game from the dashboard takes a minimal amount of time anyways.
Wilhelm_85
Gold Member
I had to look up what quick resume even was. Seems like something I would never use in practice.
Ristifer
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Lol what a bitch ass response.
bender
What time is it?
Do you have a finger to press said button?
jshackles
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MiguelItUp
Member
I always thought it was a neat feature, but I feel like I haven't really heard much about it over the years. I'm sure it's really useful for some, while others don't really use it. Doesn't hurt to have options for players, I feel. But I don't think such a thing being absent will negatively impact how people feel about the console.
schaft0620
Member
This is so silly because it has quick resume adjace. The Switch 1 can be powered down mid game for months if not years and you can pop right back into it.
bender
What time is it?
4 down, 1 to go!
...but a thumb isn't a finger technically so 0 to go...two hands
bender
, did you go to Zoidberg's medical school for basic human anatomy?...so 4 to go?...but what if he only has one arm?...0 to go?...again...divide by zero error....error....error
I am
bender
, please insert girder.
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ReBurn
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Saving and restoring the state of a session running inside of a hypervisor isn't unique to Windows. It could be implemented on any system that runs an image within a hypervisor. There's really no reason that other consoles couldn't implement a quick resume feature. They would just need enough storage to save a snapshot of the VM state. The process to rehydrate a VM session is a pretty standard part of virtualization.
I'm not surprised that Switch 2 isn't doing it because it has relatively limited internal storage. But I doubt it's an OS capability issue.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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Man, the reactions in here to legitimate criticism from potential customers Nintendo wants money from is something else.
Gambit2483
Member
That's been the entire theme since Switch 2 has been revealed...despite there being several actual legitimate complaints.
Aenima
Member
Quick resume would have been a great feauture to have some generations ago when GAAS where not so mainstream and HDDs took they sweet time to load a game. When SSD can launch a game faster than old gens loading screens, it became just a nice feauture for some users if they play multiple single player games and bounce back and forth between games.
For a portblable system, a sleep mode without closing down the game is good enough. Cuz thats what most ppl will be using.
For a portblable system, a sleep mode without closing down the game is good enough. Cuz thats what most ppl will be using.
Minsc
Gold Member
I mean it would be pretty cool to be able to play Picross, Theatryhtm and another game, without waiting for logos and going through picking saves and everything. It is notoriously slow on the Switch, getting in and out of Theatryhtm, even with faster storage, there's just a lot of screens to get through if you just want a quick 2 minute song, then switch to a quick 2 minute picross, then back to a different game.
Mozza
Member
Although your post might come across as being ever so slightly aggressive.
Mozza
Member
Such a pity there are no Xbox owners to enjoy how good it is.
Danjin44
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Most of the games I play 100+ hours long so there is no way for jump between multiple games, I mostly focus at one game and finish that move one to next game.
So for me that feature useless.
NuclearDiarrhea
Member
The mere existence of this fucking console has broken some people mentally tbh. Next week is going to be wild with the meltdowns.
It's hard to take this so-called 'legitimate criticism' seriously when it's coming from the same usual posters who clearly have no intention of buying the console and seem to be on a bizarre personal crusade against Nintendo—creating or spamming every Switch 2 thread for the past two months with nonstop negativity. I get the valid concerns: $80 games, questionable DRM, underpowered hardware—that's legit criticism. But when people start whining about needing to provide a phone number for 2FA or crying over the lack of a Quick Resume feature that was never promised and never widely requested? That's when it starts to feel like they're just not engaging in good faith and so i cant really blame some people for reacting to this thread the way they are.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm confused.
Is OP talking about a bog standard "Stand-by" mode or the Xbox specific Quick Resume? They're very different. Playstation does not have quick resume, they have stand-by for a single app that remains in active memory as long as the device is receiving power.
Quick Resume cache is still there even if you completely unplug the console for an indefinite period, cause it writes the state of the game on storage like Windows's Hibernate mode. It can also hold multiple games in this state, not just one.
Is OP talking about a bog standard "Stand-by" mode or the Xbox specific Quick Resume? They're very different. Playstation does not have quick resume, they have stand-by for a single app that remains in active memory as long as the device is receiving power.
Quick Resume cache is still there even if you completely unplug the console for an indefinite period, cause it writes the state of the game on storage like Windows's Hibernate mode. It can also hold multiple games in this state, not just one.
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Danjin44
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I seriously has, if they don't like it all they have to do is not buy it......they don't need desperately trying to justify it.
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Parazels
Member
Of course I'm talking about instant access to several last games.
sendit
Member
I'm assuming you own a flesh light. With that said, how is quick resume not realistic? lol
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Chukhopops
Member
Fair point about the full shutdown since it's not clear yet how long the system will take to cold boot.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I did say "sorry if that seems aggressive" but my thinking was that it might be better for people to realise how they're coming across, by perhaps being affronted themselves.Although your post might come across as being ever so slightly aggressive.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think any other console has done that, there was very little reason to expect NS2 to have it.
Parazels
Member
Switch 2 is the first new console after PS5 and Xbox Series. What "other consoles" are you referring to?