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Nope - Official Trailer | Jordan Peele's next movie
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Sosokrates
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sol_bad
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Did you read the spoilers in here?
The final trailer didn't give everything away, but thank god I didn't see that trailer before seeing the film.
If you haven't read the spoilers don't read them.
BadBurger
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I didn't read any spoilers here, but thanks for the warning.
The Skull
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We literally see the people moving through the Aliens digestive track. The spaceship is an animal, hence OJ's realisation that it's a predator and not to directly look at it.
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Sosokrates
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we dont even know if its organic, or if these life forms dont make things using organic material,also at the end of the digestive track looking thing theres this black square, whats your explanation for that non organic square looking thing?
The Skull
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By that logic we also don't know that the people it ate are actually dead and don't end up at a party in the other end of the ship and the blood that came out of the ship was actually tears because OJ, EM and Angel didn't want to be it's friend?
In seriousness I'm all for different interpretations but there's far more definitive proof the ship is the creature rather than an actual ship. Thematically this is why OJ is able to survive encounters with it because it's a predator and he knows how to enter an agreement with one. I mean if it was beings controlling a ship, I sincerely doubt they'd go "oh this guy didn't look at us, don't suck him up"
In seriousness I'm all for different interpretations but there's far more definitive proof the ship is the creature rather than an actual ship. Thematically this is why OJ is able to survive encounters with it because it's a predator and he knows how to enter an agreement with one. I mean if it was beings controlling a ship, I sincerely doubt they'd go "oh this guy didn't look at us, don't suck him up"
Spaceman292
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Do you do this for every movie you watch?
'We don't KNOW the shark in Jaws is a real shark, the characters just assume it is. How do we know it's not a robot piloted by tiny aliens?'
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Sosokrates
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No, and I have gave reasons why in this thread.
Jaws is clearly is about a creature that exists, so you equating what im saying about Nope to jaws makes no sense.
But you tell me, why do you think the shark in jaws is a real shark?
Sosokrates
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There's lack of proof to determine what it is. There are many possibilities that could explain why the UAP is sucking up people up some tube made of a material that shares similar properties to fabric material found on earth, it could be a alien probe, yes a machine, cant you grasp the possibility that organic material could be grown, controlled or manipulated, or maybe its and thing from another dimension where it is something that simply does not exist on earth dimension.
Oj thinking its an animal I just thought was silly, you dont agree, great but no one has been able to give decent arguments why my reasons dont make sense.
Also if you look at history and other sci fi, first contacts have not always gone smoothly and assumptions by one species can be drastically incorrect somtimes.
But read my other posts in the thread for more context.. .
Oj thinking its an animal I just thought was silly, you dont agree, great but no one has been able to give decent arguments why my reasons dont make sense.
Also if you look at history and other sci fi, first contacts have not always gone smoothly and assumptions by one species can be drastically incorrect somtimes.
But read my other posts in the thread for more context.. .
The Skull
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it's an animal. This is why the parallel to Gordy the chimp, jupes mistake thinking he could control a predator and them literally spelling it out in the movie is so prevalent. With your line of thinking you can just literally say anything because it can't be disproved.."well tell me we didn't know that the ship is actually transporting people to paradise and is here to save the human race. You can't prove otherwise!" Peele has said, if you couldn't defer it from the movie, it's all about spectacle and Jean jacket is essential the audience, as proven by jupe calling it the viewer, the animal (us, the audience) is consuming everything no matter to what detriment and it's eventual death. The movie offers, nay directly states, what the alien is, whereas there is zero evidence for your theory. So OJ drawing a parallel to the alien being a predator, that literally keeps him alive is stupid but your theory isn't despite the movie proving your theory is wrong? I can't help but think you just didn't pay attention to it.
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So how eaxctly does OJ know its an animal? Sucking up people, disabling electrical things... "Oh im OJ im such a genius , it an animal because i can ride horse near it and hide in buildings yada yada....
Im sorry I just think thats stupid. The things that OJ witnessed could indicate many things.
Now we the viewer see more things such as a digestive tract looking thing, and various shots of it during flight, the thing is in some scenes we see the UAP completely spread out and it looks like a fancy hot air ballon with no internal structure., So why are you so closed to the possibility that the people it was sucking were not being transported somewhere once they reached the black square?, The wieght and the shape of all the people and things it sucked up would distort its body during flight, I guess it could store them in its cloud, but thats an issue I have with the movie, it presents a lot of questions and OJs conclusions without giving the viewer more information to make a determination on weather OJ was correct, what the UAP actually is and where the sucked up people went.
In the film "Annihilation" we are given many examples of what the aliens do and there effects it has on people, the main characters in that movie are as confused as the viewer, but OJ the alien genius has it all figured out....
And no, the movie does not prove my opinions incorrect you cant even explain how it does this.
Also the plot is not complecated, it just gets boring after an hour and half after being teased with seeing some interesting aliens only to have the silly story about the rancher thinking he knows what the UAP is all about
Im sorry I just think thats stupid. The things that OJ witnessed could indicate many things.
Now we the viewer see more things such as a digestive tract looking thing, and various shots of it during flight, the thing is in some scenes we see the UAP completely spread out and it looks like a fancy hot air ballon with no internal structure., So why are you so closed to the possibility that the people it was sucking were not being transported somewhere once they reached the black square?, The wieght and the shape of all the people and things it sucked up would distort its body during flight, I guess it could store them in its cloud, but thats an issue I have with the movie, it presents a lot of questions and OJs conclusions without giving the viewer more information to make a determination on weather OJ was correct, what the UAP actually is and where the sucked up people went.
In the film "Annihilation" we are given many examples of what the aliens do and there effects it has on people, the main characters in that movie are as confused as the viewer, but OJ the alien genius has it all figured out....
And no, the movie does not prove my opinions incorrect you cant even explain how it does this.
Also the plot is not complecated, it just gets boring after an hour and half after being teased with seeing some interesting aliens only to have the silly story about the rancher thinking he knows what the UAP is all about
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The Skull
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So how eaxctly does OJ know its an animal? Sucking up people, disabling electrical things... "Oh im OJ im such a genius , it an animal because i can ride horse near it and hide in buildings yada yada....
Im sorry I just think thats stupid. The things that OJ witnessed could indicate many things.
Now we the viewer see more things such as a digestive tract looking thing, and various shots of it during flight, the thing is in some scenes we see the UAP completely spread out and it looks like a fancy hot air ballon with no internal structure., So why are you so closed to the possibility that the people it was sucking were not being transported somewhere once they reached the black square?, The wieght and the shape of all the people and things it sucked up would distort its body during flight, I guess it could store them in its cloud, but thats an issue I have with the movie, it presents a lot of questions and OJs conclusions without giving the viewer more information to make a determination on weather OJ was correct, what the UAP actually is and where the sucked up people went.
In the film "Annihilation" we are given many examples of what the aliens do and there effects it has on people, the main characters in that movie are as confused as the viewer, but OJ the alien genius has it all figured out....
And no, the movie does not prove my opinions incorrect you cant even explain how it does this.
Also the plot is not complecated, it just gets boring after an hour and half after being teased with seeing some interesting aliens only to have the silly story about the rancher thinking he knows what the UAP is all about
OJ "guesses it's an animal" based on the way it acts and that it's literally eating people, his experience with horses again hence why he recalls telling people not to look the horse in the eye because it's a dangerous animal. Again the same parallel with the chimp, you can't control a dangerous animal. You seem to be projecting because you don't like OJ.
They were not transported anywhere. They were ate and digested, again we see a half digested horse in the digestive track. Once digested, the animal spits out anything it couldn't digest. A giant alien like that isn't gonna be weighted down unable to fly from a few humans, simply based on it's clearly able manipulate electro magnetic fields, hence it's ability to fly and just from simple maths.
The mysterious black box you seem to be obessed with it just another part of the alien as when it transforms, the green tentacles it uses to grab the balloon and intimidate OJ come from there. Again it transforms as part of a defense mechanism in order to intimidate, again much like other predators in the wild.
The movie is full of evidence that supports the "ship" being a predator. There is nothing to support your theory in the movie. Nothing at all. You are simply wrong on this matter.
Again why would the beings in the aircraft just go "OJ didn't look at us in the UFO form, don't suck him up". This again is more proof that it is a predator, calling back to the horse example.
They were not transported anywhere. They were ate and digested, again we see a half digested horse in the digestive track. Once digested, the animal spits out anything it couldn't digest. A giant alien like that isn't gonna be weighted down unable to fly from a few humans, simply based on it's clearly able manipulate electro magnetic fields, hence it's ability to fly and just from simple maths.
The mysterious black box you seem to be obessed with it just another part of the alien as when it transforms, the green tentacles it uses to grab the balloon and intimidate OJ come from there. Again it transforms as part of a defense mechanism in order to intimidate, again much like other predators in the wild.
The movie is full of evidence that supports the "ship" being a predator. There is nothing to support your theory in the movie. Nothing at all. You are simply wrong on this matter.
Again why would the beings in the aircraft just go "OJ didn't look at us in the UFO form, don't suck him up". This again is more proof that it is a predator, calling back to the horse example.
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Sosokrates
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This is going round in circles.
We clearly disagree, so this conversation is over, there is no point to it.
Doom85
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OJ made a hypothesis (he does phrase it as a question). He, Em, Angel, and Holst tested that hypothesis. The final few minutes provide one massive visual that supports his hypothesis. I don’t know what more the movie could have done to prove him right barring some text at the bottom just spoon feeding info to you like it’s the end of Unbreakable or something (excellent film, I just didn’t care for that choice with the text saying what happened shortly after).
On an unrelated note, how do we know Joker in the 1989 Batman film actually exists? Maybe Bruce couldn’t handle the mental anguish of never having closure on who killed his parents, and so he created in his head this former gangster turned mad clown and made him the killer (all the scenes with Joker where Bruce isn’t present are entirely in Bruce’s head to fill in gaps in the story). And Alfred and Vicki (and Gordon for some reason, guess Alfred must have told him who Bruce was offscreen, I mean he did it already with Vicki) decided rather than getting him the psychiatric help he clearly desperately needs, they would enable his delusions to give him some sort of warped peace.
”Yes Bruce, this clown killed your parents!”
”Yes Bruce, he is killing people!” (“psst, some of you fall down and play dead!”
”Yes Bruce, this killer clown did announce on TV he’d be holding a parade! What’s that? Won’t that mean tons of police officers will be there to stop him easily? Err, let’s assume not a single one will show for some unclear reason, so you better suit up!”
Alfred would later be awaiting trial for the illegal manufacturing of an armed aircraft and allowing a mentally unstable individual under his care to pilot it without a license.
I’m just saying, the film never spoke to me directly and said the Joker exists “totally for realz”. So my idea is CLEARLY as valid as the so-called “canon” that 99.999999% of the Batman fan base consider to be what happens.
On an unrelated note, how do we know Joker in the 1989 Batman film actually exists? Maybe Bruce couldn’t handle the mental anguish of never having closure on who killed his parents, and so he created in his head this former gangster turned mad clown and made him the killer (all the scenes with Joker where Bruce isn’t present are entirely in Bruce’s head to fill in gaps in the story). And Alfred and Vicki (and Gordon for some reason, guess Alfred must have told him who Bruce was offscreen, I mean he did it already with Vicki) decided rather than getting him the psychiatric help he clearly desperately needs, they would enable his delusions to give him some sort of warped peace.
”Yes Bruce, this clown killed your parents!”
”Yes Bruce, he is killing people!” (“psst, some of you fall down and play dead!”
”Yes Bruce, this killer clown did announce on TV he’d be holding a parade! What’s that? Won’t that mean tons of police officers will be there to stop him easily? Err, let’s assume not a single one will show for some unclear reason, so you better suit up!”
Alfred would later be awaiting trial for the illegal manufacturing of an armed aircraft and allowing a mentally unstable individual under his care to pilot it without a license.
I’m just saying, the film never spoke to me directly and said the Joker exists “totally for realz”. So my idea is CLEARLY as valid as the so-called “canon” that 99.999999% of the Batman fan base consider to be what happens.
I apologize for getting this snarky. I also regret nothing. 
EddieVanHelgen
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Good lord, this nosedived HARD in the third act. Absolute gubbins. Great build up though.
Sosokrates
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Ok so if all that did happen in the movie, does not make it interesting.
Just because something happens in a story does not make it plausible or entertaining.
Is it really so hard to understand that someone thinks a movie that takes 1.5hrs showing glimpses of aliens, and poses a lot of other questions has a disapointing pay off? Another reason I found it parts of this film silly and therefore not that good was because I think the story of a rancher figuring all these things out and leading it to places is not that plausible when so little information is ar his disposal.
Take other alien films, like predator for example, Dutch + crew learn quite a few things about the creature over most of the film through several different encounters and clues and even then they are not dont act like they really know what it is. OJ's observations are similar and distant, I think the story would of been better if the film provided a bit more information from the UAP to OJ, for example maybe some form of telepathy, maybe some more examples of the UAPs collection behaviours, maybe some more examples of its form of communication etc.
But im glad other people in this thread think its the perfect movie lol. If you look at my original post I actually don't think its terrible, but people ignore my praise and just focus on my criticisms, typical.
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Thank god im not the only one..
sol_bad
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I think you should try watching the movie again since you completely had no idea what was happening the first time. You were waiting for a payoff that the movie very clearly told you wasn't coming.
Sosokrates
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Shut the hell up dude, I did know what was happening, dont be so bloody patronising.
And how precisily did the movie tell the viewer a payoff was not coming?
We did get some payoff, the scene where they plan how they are going to film it and them executing that plan was a payoff, it was probably the most entertaining part of the movie.
sol_bad
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Sorry, I wasn't meaning to sound patronising. Sometimes an outlook on a film can change after a 2nd viewing.
Sosokrates
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This could apply to you to then.
Thanks for the apologie.
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sol_bad
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I say people should support it at the cinemas as it's a very unique concept. There is a 50/50 chance of someone liking it.
MaestroMike
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seems like the alien was just running on instincts instead of thinking and was just hungry trying to feed its huge as$ it was an extraterrestrial wild animal looking for food. the protagonists ended up killing it just to take a picture they had their chance to leave or call the authorities, but they wanted a picture instead to sell and make money off of kinda annoying tbh i would've just bounced if there was some alien hiding/camouflaging itself in the clouds fukk that they should've just called some zoologists or animal experts to study it simple as that. in the end I felt sorry for the alien getting killed
GeekyDad
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Didn't realize he was in it. Glad to know he's still doing some work. Great actor.
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VN1X
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Just watched this and yeah... it's a cool concept that's executed rather poorly with incredibly two dimensional characters.
His worst film yet (which isn't bad just not very captivating) and I struggled staying awake lol. This would've otherwise been excellent as a 30-min short film or something.
His worst film yet (which isn't bad just not very captivating) and I struggled staying awake lol. This would've otherwise been excellent as a 30-min short film or something.
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FunkMiller
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As a movie satirising our obsession with spectacle, and the greed of monetisation of video output, it’s excellent.
But the film needed another round in the edit bay, and better focused character and dialogue work.
8/10
But the film needed another round in the edit bay, and better focused character and dialogue work.
8/10
Grildon Tundy
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Well said. There's a great 1.5 hour movie there
Really enjoyed this one. Interesting take on classic tropes.
Might be Jordan Peele's best film imo, certainly enjoyed Nope more than Us.
Fantastic cinematography and soundtrack wasn't bad, although I thought the scare chords were a bit overused and distracted from some of that tension.
Really enjoyed the characters and their interactions, and Keke Palmer's performance in particular was very amusing.
Might be Jordan Peele's best film imo, certainly enjoyed Nope more than Us.
Fantastic cinematography and soundtrack wasn't bad, although I thought the scare chords were a bit overused and distracted from some of that tension.
Really enjoyed the characters and their interactions, and Keke Palmer's performance in particular was very amusing.
Also, an Akira reference is probably the last thing I ever expected to see in a Jordan Peele film. So kudos for that.
El Pistolero
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Good cinematography and very interesting concepts on display, but not enough meat on the bones to justify a whole movie. A series' episode would have sufficed, based on that premise...The pacing was terrible, imo.
Plus, I have the strange impression that Peel is turning into another Shyamalan before our eyes: A first solid film, followed by a series of projects that get gradually worse. Just like Shyamalan, Peel has some interesting ideas, but does not strike me as that great of a storyteller/director.
Plus, I have the strange impression that Peel is turning into another Shyamalan before our eyes: A first solid film, followed by a series of projects that get gradually worse. Just like Shyamalan, Peel has some interesting ideas, but does not strike me as that great of a storyteller/director.
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kurisu_1974
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Started out pretty cool, but really shits the bed in the final 40 minutes or so. Got pretty generic and uninteresting. I felt that chimp side story was actually more interesting but it didn't tie into the movie very well imo.
I think all of Peele's work is a tad overrated.
I think all of Peele's work is a tad overrated.
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SJRB
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Sure, spend 15 bucks on the 50/50 chance you're gonna have an okay time the next 2+ hours.
Not really a great sales pitch honestly.
Labolas
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I didn't hate this at all, in fact I kinda like it. Much better than Us for sure. Characters are relatively likeable. The problems I only have with this is that it's not scary and most of the violence isn't shown.
Also there's Akira's motorcycle slide reference in this as well. Which both things I can appreciate.
So it seems that the monster is reference to Neon Genesis Evangelion's angels, which makes sense when you finally see it's whole appearance. Particularly, Sahaqueil, Leiel, and Arael come to mind.
MastaKiiLA
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I enjoyed it, but not the same way I did Us and Get Out. I was expecting some racial allegory in this one, but couldn't pick up on any. It was just kind of an oddball monster flick, but well shot and acted. It's original. The monster design, monster behavior, and the techniques the characters employed. Though that last bit can be seen in some other films like the Stranger Things christmas lights.
I was disappointed with the conclusion of the events. I was expecting a more satisfying payoff ala Get Out and Us. Also, was there supposed to be more to Steven Yeun's character, or is he just a pointless distraction? He seemed to exist partly to flesh out the location where the events took place, and partly to help set the "weird and spooky things happen around these parts" vibe. Otherwise, I didn't see the point in the character.
Anyway, while I think this is the worst of his 3 films so far, I also think it's the most rewatchable. Pretty sure I'll give this another few spins at home, whereas I only watched Get Out and Us twice each.
I was disappointed with the conclusion of the events. I was expecting a more satisfying payoff ala Get Out and Us. Also, was there supposed to be more to Steven Yeun's character, or is he just a pointless distraction? He seemed to exist partly to flesh out the location where the events took place, and partly to help set the "weird and spooky things happen around these parts" vibe. Otherwise, I didn't see the point in the character.
Anyway, while I think this is the worst of his 3 films so far, I also think it's the most rewatchable. Pretty sure I'll give this another few spins at home, whereas I only watched Get Out and Us twice each.
Doom85
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See my post earlier on that (post #35).
sol_bad
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Isn't that how any piece of media works? Or do you just rely in reviews to tell you what you'll like rather than deciding for yourself?
MastaKiiLA
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You rock! It totally makes sense now. I wonder if a lot of people missed this connection like me.
NoLootBoxDev
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Saw it, I enjoy it a lot. I loved how the UFO moved in the clouds, that was terrifying (in the sense, most people could shit their pants, looking at a UFO in real life) it was nice you could see it a lot, not like other movies who just place things at the end, and you do not see much shit. The voices of the people:
8/10
8/10
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