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[Zeke]

They have over a million troops who are willing to jump off a cliff at Kim's gesture. That cant be taken lightly.

bah I don't buy this shit anymore people said the same thing about the Iraq Republican Guard baddest of the bad, battle tested, never to be taken alive they waved their white flags not long after troops and heavy armor swept thro.

 

[Lost Fragment]

Dude....one million? Ha. Try nearly the entire country. If they're capable of miltary service they will serve. Period. They won't go down like Saddam's troops.

Doesn't matter how many troops they have since the west could bomb them into the stone age before setting foot on North Korean soil, and they couldn't do much about it.

 

[El Sloth]

For those that missed it on the first page:

Al Jazeera English Live Stream that has been reporting all the news posted in this thread.

 

[Akim]

On the one hand, the word of a Gaffer. On the other, news agencies worldwide.

News agencies never try to hype events to get viewers.

 

[RustyNails]

Looks like this is Obama's 3AM phone call.

 

[BigJonsson]

Honestly I hate this way of thinking. I understand it 100% but it's still bullshit.

This shit isn't going to solve itself! And they aren't just going to die off. Might as well get it over with before they can actually buy rockets that CAN HIT SHIT.

And I fucking live in Japan.

Well if they have a working nuclear weapon then something would get hit real bad

 

[farnham]

bah I don't buy this shit anymore people said the same thing about the Iraq Republican Guard baddest of the bad, battle tested, never to be taken alive they waved their white flags not long after troops and heavy armor swept thro.

yeah the military lost

but look what happened afterwards

NK people are known to be brainwashed as well so..

 

[BertramCooper]

Problem is that humanitarian crisis already exists. The world just turns a blind eye. Going in there and changing things would probably do the people a favor

Oh certainly, there's already a humanitarian crisis.

But just imagine the pure chaos that would happen in the event of a defeat of North Korea and the subsequent reunification of Korea. South Korea is one of the most modernized countries on the planet, while North Korea is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. It would be insanity.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Doesn't matter how many troops they have since the west could bomb them into the stone age before setting foot on North Korean soil, and they couldn't do much about it.

They'd likely probably take SK with them. Swift invasion, then basically wait to die.

 

[BocoDragon]

This just might be more serious than Starcraft and SNSD jokes for once

 

[JohnTinker]

The South's military fired back some 80 rounds - Yonhap

REU: WITNESS SAYS SHELLING AROUND S.KOREAN ISLAND APPEARS TO HAVE STOPPED - YTN

Al Jazeera: *Unconfirmed* reports of fatalities at SK island.

Yonhap: (URGENT) Four S. Korean soldiers seriously wounded, 10 slight injured by North's shelling: official

KBS TV shows huge plumes of smoke rising from Yeonpyeong island http://twitpic.com/39e43k

YTN reporting at least 14 South Korean soldiers injured in north's attack.

SOUTH KOREA WARNS STRONGER RESPONSE IF NORTH CONTINUES PROVOCATIONS - REU

 

[wolfmat]

Note that in modern warfare, it's not about troop strength. It's about infrastructure and maneuverability. We're not in the Dark Ages anymore.

 

[Dresden]

Oh certainly, there's already a humanitarian crisis.

But just imagine the pure chaos that would happen in the event of a defeat of North Korea and the subsequent reunification of Korea. South Korea is one of the most modernized countries on the planet, while North Korea is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. It would be insanity.

Bankruptcy~

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Dude....one million? Ha. Try nearly the entire country. If they're capable of miltary service they will serve. Period. They won't go down like Saddam's troops.

ALSO no one knows this. The human psychology is not that easily brainwashed. It does show that SK propganda tricked you though!

I mean for fucks sake they said the same thing about Japan in WWII. School children with bamboo spears and shit man!

They don't have the equipment, fortifications, supplies, anything that even compare to Iraq.

 

[Salazar]

News agencies never try to hype events to get viewers.

Yeah, and it's silly to be even slightly bothered by an unprovoked shelling of civilians by a manic totalitarian military state.

You play it cool, friend.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Oh certainly, there's already a humanitarian crisis.

But just imagine the pure chaos that would happen in the event of a defeat of North Korea and the subsequent reunification of Korea. South Korea is one of the most modernized countries on the planet, while North Korea is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. It would be insanity.

It would be worse than Germany for sure, but it's going to happen someday, I dunno, I kinda feel like it's something that needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later before the North gets too strong.

 

[Veins]

North Korea have been trying small attacks since forever:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone#Incidents_and_Incursions
Together with the sinking of that South Korean ship earlier this year by North Korea.

 

[Zeke]

yeah the military lost

but look what happened afterwards

NK people are known to be brainwashed as well so..

as malnourished as those people are you seriously think they have any strength to fight you think most of them would fight? Fuck no they won't most would try to bail the fuck out and head south.

 

[farnham]

Oh certainly, there's already a humanitarian crisis.

But just imagine the pure chaos that would happen in the event of a defeat of North Korea and the subsequent reunification of Korea. South Korea is one of the most modernized countries on the planet, while North Korea is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. It would be insanity.

i imagine samsung buying all the land there is and making every north korean a working slave for samsung

they could wreck all their chinese facilities and produce everything in NK it would be so cheap for them.

and the north koreans... poor poor guys.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

NK isn't really a match for the US troops. Not that that means it wouldn't be bad news. But, you know.

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

 

[Boonoo]

Oh certainly, there's already a humanitarian crisis.

But just imagine the pure chaos that would happen in the event of a defeat of North Korea and the subsequent reunification of Korea. South Korea is one of the most modernized countries on the planet, while North Korea is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. It would be insanity.

Preventing a similar flood of refugees is China's main concern with NK.

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

If it actually turned into a shooting war China isn't going to get in a fight with the US over NK. There's absolutely nothing they could gain from it.

 

[duckroll]

Long term: Truman not letting Gen. Douglas MacArthur do his thing.

That's all that needs to be said.

 

[RustyNails]

bah I don't buy this shit anymore people said the same thing about the Iraq Republican Guard baddest of the bad, battle tested, never to be taken alive they waved their white flags not long after troops and heavy armor swept thro.

Iraq never suffered from a Cult of Personality Disorder. Saddam was a secularist Muslim. Everyone in Iraq knew he was but a mortal. But Kim, Kim got 11 hole-in-ones in his first ever Golf outing. People are brainwashed over there.

 

[Zapages]

I hope this does not cause WWIII, as some crazy lady predicted that a war will start like any war but will become WW III in November of this year.

 

[El Sloth]

What I'm most interested in at the moment is the the atmosphere at the DMZ. Shit has to be so tense.

ALSO no one knows this. The human psychology is not that easily brainwashed. It does show that SK propganda tricked you though!

I mean for fucks sake they said the same thing about Japan in WWII. School children with bamboo spears and shit man!

They don't have the equipment, fortifications, supplies, anything that even compare to Iraq.

Oh really?

 

[Sharp]

I guess the son is crazier after all. FUCK.

 

[Kagari]

I hope this does not cause WWIII, as some crazy lady predicted that a war will start like any war but will become WW III in November of this year.

Explain? I somehow missed this.

 

[duckroll]

Explain? I somehow missed this.

NO! WHY DID YOU ASK ZAPAGES TO EXPLAIN? NOOOOOOOOO! :lol

 

[BigJonsson]

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

Not necessarily

 

[whitehawk]

(Reuters) - North Korea on Tuesday fired dozens of artillery shells at a South Korean island, setting buildings on fire and prompting a return of fire by the South, Seoul's military and media reports said.

A witness said residents of the island of Yeonpyeong, off the west coast of the peninsula near a disputed maritime border, had been evacuated.

Yonhap news agency said four South Korean soldiers had been wounded in the shelling, the biggest attack in years.

YTN television quoted a witness as saying 60 to 70 houses were on fire after the shelling and TV footage showed plumes of smoke coming from the island. It said a South Korean fighter jet had been deployed to the west coast after the shelling.

"Houses and mountains are on fire and people are evacuating. You can't see very well because of plumes of smoke," a witness on the island told YTN.

"People are frightened to death and shelling continues as we speak," the witness said.

News of the exchange of fire sent the won tumbling in offshore markets with the 1-month won down in NDF trading.

The impact was felt internationally, with U.S. 10-year Treasury futures rising and the Japanese yen falling.

South Korea's military confirmed the exchange of firing, without providing more details.

The attack comes just as a U.S. envoy is traveling to the region after revelations that the North is moving ahead with uranium enrichment, a possible second path to manufacture material for atomic weapons.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AM0YS20101123

 

[LiK]

Now I can't sleep the world might end before I play GT5

 

[mollipen]

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

Yeah, I'm not sure "most certainly" is quite the word to put there. Possibly stand with NK? Sure. But China is starting to get to the point where they have more reason not to get NK's back than they do to do so.

 

[TacticalFox88]

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

Who is also believed to be allied with the Russians.....you see why this gets bad in hindsight?

 

[Blablurn]

Is BoA okay?

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Jenga]

Explain? I somehow missed this.

zapages hijack imminent

 

[wolfmat]

You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.

I don't think China is that insane if push comes to shove. Especially since they're completely entangled in the whole outsourcing mumbo-jumbo. Their interests shifted a long time ago from the political to the economical.

 

[RustyNails]

NO! WHY DID YOU ASK ZAPAGES TO EXPLAIN? NOOOOOOOOO! :lol

You can borrow my tinfoil hat for now

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Oh really?

Crying on tv is a lot easier than facing down a tank.

Also you would be surprised what some food would do to convince a starving population.

As I said good job falling for SK propaganda though.

 

[Ogrekiller]

Why now though? What's the motive? A bluff to try to scare the US into making nuke concessions? Why Yeonpyeong island? And why now and not during G20? That would've made a bigger impression.

 

[El Sloth]

Explain? I somehow missed this.

You dun goofed. Just smile and nod and ignore the crazy man.

 

[Dresden]

China isn't going to do shit. We're where they make all their money, they're not going to risk war.

 

[Kagari]

Just forget I even asked :lol

 

[Zapages]

Explain? I somehow missed this.

There is an old blind lady who predicted WW III will start this month of this year. I don't believe in this type of stuff. In all cases I don't want her prediction to come true as many people will die. Some of her predictions are very eerie and some are way off.* shrugs*

Anyway here you go:

2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.

2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.

2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).

2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).

2018 – New China becomes a world power. Developing countries in turn operated from exploiters.

2023 – A little bit of change in the Earth’s orbit.

2025 – Europe still little settled.

2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.

2033 – The polar ice are melting. Greater levels of the oceans.

2043 – The world economy is thriving. In Europe, Muslims rule.

2046 – any bodies (organs) can be manufactured (cloning?). Replacing the bodies is becoming one of the best methods of treatment.

2066 – During the attack on the Muslim Rome, the United States used a new kind of weapon – the climate. The sharp cooling (instant freezing).

2076 – Classless Society (communism).

2084 – The restoration of nature.

2088 – A new disease – aging for a few seconds!

2097 – The rapid aging defeated.

2100 – Artificial sun illuminates the dark side of the Earth.

2111 – People become living robots.

2123 – The war between small nations. Big nations do not intervene.

2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.

2130 – Colony under water (with the help of sympathetic councils).

2164 – Animals turn half-human.

2167 – A new religion.

2170 – Major drought.

2183 – A colony on Mars becomes a nuclear power, and demands independence from the Earth (like when – the United States from England).

2187 – Will stop 2 large eruption of volcanoes.

2195 – Sea Colony fully developed, abundant energy and food.

2196 – Complete mixing of Asians and Europeans.

2201 – At the Sun slowing thermonuclear processes. Temperature drops.

2221 – In the search for extraterrestrial life, humanity comes into contact with what – something terrible.

2256 – Spacecraft forgotten to Earth terrible new disease.

2262 – Planets gradually changing planetary orbit. Mars is threatened by comets.

2271 – Restart physical constants are changed. (Laws of physics changed?)

2273 – Mixing yellow, white and black races. New race.

2279 – Power from nothing (probably from a vacuum or a black hole).

2288 – Travel back in time (Time Travel invented?). New contacts with aliens.

2291 – The sun cools. Attempts were being made to light it again.

2296 – Powerful eruption on the Sun. Changing the force of gravity. Beginning to fall old space stations and satellites.

2299 – In France, guerrilla movement against Islam.

2302 – New important laws and secrets of the universe revealed.

2304 – Secrets of the Moon revealed.

2341 – Something terrible is approaching Earth from space.

2354 – An accident in one of the artificial Sun leads to drought.

2371 – The great famine.

2378 – A new fast-growing race.

2480 – 2 artificial Suns collide. Land in the twilight.

3005 -The war on Mars. Violated the trajectory of the planet.

3010 – Comet hits Moon. Around the Earth – ring/zone of the stones and dust.

3797 – By this time on Earth killed all life, but mankind will be able to lay the foundations for a new life in another stellar system.

3803 – A new planet is populated by little. Fewer contacts between people. Climate new planet affects the organisms of people – they mutate.

3805 – The war between humans for resources. More than half of people dying out.

3815 – The war is over.

3854 – The development of civilization virtually stops. People live flocks as beasts.

3871 – New prophet tells people about moral values, religion.

3874 – New prophet receives support from all segments of the population. Organized a new church.

3878 – along with the Church to re-train new people forgotten sciences.

4302 – New cities are growing in the world. New Church encourages the development of new technology and science.

4302 – The development of science. Scientists discovered in the overall impact of all diseases in organism behavior.

4304 – Found a way to win any disease.

4308 – Due to mutation people at last beginning to use their brains more than 34%. Completely lost the notion of evil and hatred.

4509 – Getting to Know God. The man has finally been reached such a level of development that can communicate with God.

4599 – People achieve immortality.

4674 – The development of civilization has reached its peak. The number of people living on different planets is about 340 billion. Assimilation begins with aliens.

5076 – A boundary universe. With it, no one knows.

5078 – The decision to leave the boundaries of the universe. While about 40 percent of the population is against it.

5079 – End of the World.

Source: http://lighthead.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/baba-vanga-predictions-2010-5079/

 

[xbhaskarx]

NK isn't really a match for the US troops. Not that that means it wouldn't be bad news. But, you know.

1. The US military presence in South Korea is minimal, 28,500 personnel (and a large segment of the Korean population wants them gone), whereas North Korean Army has over a million active personnel.

2. The North Koreans doesn't need to match the US military in conventional warfare, thanks to a Pakistani gentleman by the name of Abdul Qadeer Khan.

 

[Sharp]

I swear to god Zapages if you shit up a serious thread with your bullshit I will... I will...

 

[Salazar]

China isn't going to do shit. We're where they make all their money, they're not going to risk war.

You have become terribly persuasive since you got that handsome avatar :lol

 

[Dresden]

Just forget I even asked :lol

TOO LATE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

 

[Zeke]

Iraq never suffered from a Cult of Personality Disorder. Saddam was a secularist Muslim. Everyone in Iraq knew he was but a mortal. But Kim, Kim got 11 hole-in-ones in his first ever Golf outing. People are brainwashed over there.

again you're talking about malnourished untrained civilians no matter how many times you say this they won't stand a chance in the face of modern military weaponry or trained and well equipped soldiers. Yea sure there are some that are down right nuts about Kim most people are kissing ass because they have no choice. Suck kims dick or go to "re-eduction" camp and never see your family again.

 

[El Sloth]

Just forget I even asked :lol

Haha, too late now! Look at dat list.

 

[farnham]

china and russia are making lots of profits with trade right now. that could be a factor that prevents them from messing with America too much. but traditionally they are always backing north korea.

again you're talking about malnourished untrained civilians no matter how many times you say this they won't stand a chance in the face of modern military weaponry or trained and well equipped soldiers. Yea sure there are some that are down right nuts about Kim most people are kissing ass because they have no choice. Suck kims dick or go to "re-eduction" camp and never see your family again.

isnt every north korean male forced to serve in the army for 10 years or so ?