North Korea just shelled them some South Korea

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farnham said:
what are they supposed to do ?
no china is the bigger issue

if america messes with NK they are messing with china

:lol No.

The only reason China even cares about NK is because they don't want millions of refugees running into China when war breaks out and NK inevitably collapses and people are able to escape that shithole. The world wouldn't be happy with China if they sat at the border gunning down refugees to thin the herd, and they don't need a few million more people to feed.

The other problem with war is that NK has enough artillery and short range missles/rockets to completely destroy South Korea. There is no way for the US to destroy every weapons platform in NK before they launch at least a volley at SK, and unfortunately forcefields don't exist so there is no way to stop that much weapons fire from destroying SK.
 
farnham said:
no china is the bigger issue

This isn't the 50's anymore. China has been distancing themselves from NK for decades now, since associating with megalomaniac dictators with his finger on the button is kind of bad for business (plus it's fucking expensive to maintain that kind of regime).

If the conflict escalates, I highly doubt China will get involved at all. Hell, they'll probably sell weapons to SK if they can pay for it.
 
That list probably doesn't belong here, but you have to admit this one is sweet.

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That could be the tagline for a summer blockbuster.
 
Zeke said:
again you're talking about malnourished untrained civilians no matter how many times you say this they won't stand a chance in the face of modern military weaponry or trained and well equipped soldiers. Yea sure there are some that are down right nuts about Kim most people are kissing ass because they have no choice. Suck kims dick or go to "re-eduction" camp and never see your family again.
Keep in mind that North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world.
 
My gut is that China won't have any interest in engaging the UN forces, and China's strategic interest in preserving North Korea as a buffer zone against the pro-Western South Korean territory sounds anachronistic.

In other words, China doesn't give a flip. Maybe.
 
Boonoo said:
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That could be the tagline for a summer blockbuster.
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Zeke said:
again you're talking about malnourished untrained civilians no matter how many times you say this they won't stand a chance in the face of modern military weaponry or trained and well equipped soldiers. Yea sure there are some that are down right nuts about Kim most people are kissing ass because they have no choice. Suck kims dick or go to "re-eduction" camp and never see your family again.
Yeah, but except those crazy nutty soldiers will go banzai over Dear leader. Iraq's Republican Guard was more interested in self-preservation when shit hit the fan. I can guarantee you, these guys will go bonkers. Iraq was a very different story.
 
Zzoram said:
:lol No.

The only reason China even cares about NK is because they don't want millions of refugees running into China when war breaks out and NK inevitably collapses and people are able to escape that shithole. The world wouldn't be happy with China if they sat at the border gunning down refugees to thin the herd, and they don't need a few million more people to feed.

The other problem with war is that NK has enough artillery and short range missles/rockets to completely destroy South Korea. There is no way for the US to destroy every weapons platform in NK before they launch at least a volley at SK, and unfortunately forcefields don't exist so there is no way to stop that much weapons fire from destroying SK.
yeah

and seoul is near NK so.
 
Besides, it's probably the new poppet trying to build up some street cred. Bombing a bit, you know. Both Jong and the new bro are acutely conscious of how they lack the myth-building history of Kim Il Sung.
 
Evlar said:
My gut is that China won't have any interest in engaging the UN forces, and China's strategic interest in preserving North Korea as a buffer zone against the pro-Western South Korean territory sounds anachronistic.

In other words, China doesn't give a flip. Maybe.

The best thing China could do (for themselves) in an all out war is throw their lot in with SK and the US so that they could have (some) say in what happens with the refugees.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
You know who is a match for the US?

China, who would most certainly stand firm with NK.
We would then just simply decide to erase the trillions of dollars of debt we are in to them.
 
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Mixing black white and yellow begets a new race?
Nuclear powered colony on Mars within 200 years? I guess we already started terraforming in secret or something?
Organ cloning will be way before 2046.
Artificial sun...

These are the ramblings of a kid who has just read his first sci-fi.
 
Zapages said:
There is an old blind lady who predicted WW III will start this month of this year. I don't believe in this type of stuff. In all cases I don't want her prediction to come true as many people will die. Some of her predictions are very eerie and some are way off.* shrugs*

Anyway here you go:



Source: http://lighthead.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/baba-vanga-predictions-2010-5079/
First flaw is Northern Hemisphere being without life in 2011 to the existence of a "New China" in 2018? China's in the Northern Hemisphere.

The rest is utter bullshit. No more talk of this in this thread imo.

Unless it's to make jokes, of course.
 
aerts1js said:
I'm writing this from Korea... I really hope this doesn't escalate.
You are now GAF's embedded reporter on the ground. Keep us updated on local talk and news reports, please.
 
I know there have been military deaths in these border clashes, but have there ever been any civilian deaths (in previous instances that is)?
 
LovingSteam said:
Zapages, I'm sure you agree, the North Korean's are doing the exact same thing that the Pakistani's are doing to India. No better, no worse.
Could you guys stop baiting Zapages? He'll shit up the thread again.
 
when do you say 'enough is enough'? like, NK already sunk a SK sub earlier this year and now this? bad example, but if russia was sinking US subs and then firing shells at hawaii; all hell would break loose.
 
BNO: Numbers as of 2:30 a.m. EDT: One South Korean soldier killed, 14 soldiers injured, four civilians injured.

#ROK military officials saying #DPRK attack continuing.

Islanders say some fleeing Yeongpyeong by fishing boats amid #DPRK shelling. #Korea
 
LovingSteam said:
Zapages, I'm sure you agree, the North Korean's are doing the exact same thing that the Pakistani's are doing to India. No better, no worse.

Let's keep on topic about NK vs SK. Thanks. :)

JohnTinker said:
KBS: Fatalities reported on Yeongpyeong from #DPRK shelling.

I wonder if SK will retaliate with full force now. *worried

JohnTinker said:
BNO: Numbers as of 2:30 a.m. EDT: One South Korean soldier killed, 14 soldiers injured, four civilians injured.

#ROK military officials saying #DPRK attack continuing.

Islanders say some fleeing Yeongpyeong by fishing boats amid #DPRK shelling. #Korea

Why NK why?!
 
BocoDragon said:
Keep in mind that North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world.

And as fucked up as it is we would probably sit back at a safe distance in our carriers launching fighters and destroying the shit out of their facilities and fortifications.

I have always been for nipping this in the bud early. It should have happened a LONG TIME ago.
 
aerts1js said:
I'm writing this from Korea... I really hope this doesn't escalate.
there is a good chance that this just ends and live goes on as nothing happened

it wouldnt be unprecedented

but nk attacking civilians is unprecedented so it might be different this time.
 
RustyNails said:
Yeah, but except those crazy nutty soldiers will go banzai over Dear leader. Iraq's Republican Guard was more interested in self-preservation when shit hit the fan. I can guarantee you, these guys will go bonkers. Iraq was a very different story.
"An army marches on its stomach." Cut their supply lines cut their power, cut their communications, attack under cover of dark.
 
She's an old blind lady.

Whatever she says, she'll still be an old blind lady.

So that's not the coolest portfolio ever for saying accurate things about stuff and junk.

Well, except for the struggles an old blind lady usually should expect to run into.

Seems like she's got some cool scifi audiobooks on her ipod.
 
Jake. said:
when do you say 'enough is enough'? like, NK already sunk a SK sub earlier this year and now this? bad example, but if russia was sinking US subs and then firing shells at hawaii; all hell would break loose.
Imagine that Cuba was fully militarized and much larger and had enough weaponry to destroy the country. And were attacking boats off the coast of Florida.
 
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