North Korea just shelled them some South Korea

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Zapages said:
Let's keep on topic about NK vs SK. Thanks. :)



I wonder if SK will retaliate with full force now. *worried



Why NK why?!


Well they let 46 sailors die with no retaliation. But it's harder for NK to deny shelling than a torpedo.
 
Jake. said:
when do you say 'enough is enough'? like, NK already sunk a SK sub earlier this year and now this? bad example, but if russia was sinking US subs and then firing shells at hawaii; all hell would break loose.

Sure, but Russia and the US are each capable of kiling pretty much everything on Earth. A better analogy would be if Nicaragua started shelling Honduras. It would be news, sure - but I doubt you'd see all hell breaking loose.
 
NK is like that stupid cat in the alley which keeps on scratching your kid that you can't kill because the crazy cat lady that lets it run around it strapped a bomb onto its back.

Also, said lady has a grenade launcher and an army of cats with type-97s.
 
I hope SK has a lot of bunkers. They might as well evacuate the cities and have the US/SK obliterate NK once and for all. Every year that they stall, NK's ability to do damage increases. NK isn't going to collapse peacefully, and unless forcefields are really only a few years away, there is no point in stalling further.

NK keeps doing these small attacks because they know that SK/US are afraid of escalating.
 
Any war against the North either goes full-on airstrikes like the Korean War--America dumped more bombs there than in the entire Pacific theater during WWII--or you get into a protracted struggled against North Korena insurgents. It'll likely be the latter because bombing cities with large civilian populations isn't media-friendly. It's easy to forget, but for North Koreans they still remember the dead from the Korean War, and it won't be as easy as just marching in to liberate the starving peasants.
 
Dresden said:
Any war against the North either goes full-on airstrikes like the Korean War--America dumped more bombs there than in the entire Pacific theater during WWII--or you get into a protracted struggled against North Korena insurgents. It'll likely be the latter because bombing cities with large civilian populations isn't media-friendly. It's easy to forget, but for North Koreans they still remember the dead from the Korean War, and it won't be as easy as just marching in to liberate the starving peasants.

So true. :|
 
Zzoram said:
I hope SK has a lot of bunkers. They might as well evacuate the cities and have the US/SK obliterate NK once and for all. Every year that they stall, NK's ability to do damage increases. NK isn't going to collapse peacefully, and unless forcefields are really only a few years away, there is no point in stalling further.

I think an evacuation of Seoul would almost guarantee further action from NK--it would look like SK was prepping an attack.
 
Jake. said:
when do you say 'enough is enough'? like, NK already sunk a SK sub earlier this year and now this? bad example, but if russia was sinking US subs and then firing shells at hawaii; all hell would break loose.
Doubtful. Starting another World War on the account of a submarine and some burned houses would be foolish to the extreme. Sanctions and limited retaliation, probably.
 
Dresden said:
Any war against the North either goes full-on airstrikes like the Korean War--America dumped more bombs there than in the entire Pacific theater during WWII--or you get into a protracted struggled against North Korena insurgents. It'll likely be the latter because bombing cities with large civilian populations isn't media-friendly. It's easy to forget, but for North Koreans they still remember the dead from the Korean War, and it won't be as easy as just marching in to liberate the starving peasants.

There is no need to liberate NK. Just blow the fuck out of all their military and weapons sites and the capital city to hopefully kill their leaders. Once they have nothing, ignore the humanitarian mess. China should landmine it's side of the NK border to prevent mass refugees in a less obvious way than straight gunning them down. SK already has miles of landmines in the DMZ keeping refugees out so they're ok. If a government somehow hobbles itself together in the aftermath, they'll beg for help under any terms.
 
i'm only 300km away from the north the north korean border. please hold me :(

i hope this will end well....what should south korea do? revenge them...? obviously they have the right to do it.. but still?
 
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?
 
BNO: Casualty update: 1 SK marine killed, 13 SK soldiers injured (3 seriously), at 4 civilians injured

KBS: The Joint Chiefs of Staff has issued a top military alert for five islands in the area.
 
The only thing I can see China making a fuss over is that they don't want a close US ally bordering them. That's the only reason I can see then caring about North Korea.

But seriously, I hate North Korea. They have brainwashed their citizens and their absurd rhetoric wishes their government was wiped out. I would enlist in a war to do that.

I just wish the United States wasn't pre-occupied by Iraq and Afghanistan. :/
 
Dammit, I have 2 tests in the morning and now this shit will keep me up at night. Thanks GAF.

Somehow I figured there would be lots of "Evacuate SNSD!" comments
 
To those who are talking about an all out war:

Are you people not aware that North Korea has nuclear weapons?

Yes, the military doctrine of "mutually assured destruction" would suggest that neither side would resort to the use of nukes, but given how much more powerful the US military is than their military, a conventional war that threatened the regime could lead to a "use them or lose them" situation...

Basically what that means is the US can't just invade North Korea and overthrow the NK regime, because they would use their nukes to take out South Korea and Japan.

The most we'll get is border skirmishes, some small-scale aerial combat (no bombing of cities or major infrastructure), shelling across the border, etc.
 
El Sloth said:
Shit completely forgot about that.The U.S. has an obligation to help the South out if they get into it with the North, don't we?

Isn't he the Kim Spawn set to take over after his good 'ol pops kicks the bucket? The one that was recently promoted to general or something?


Many of the newly graduated corpsmen are getting FMF on their orders, oh, and apparently they are giving sign up bonuses for reservist FMF corpsmen (those basically go straight to combat zones)

and we are reminded every friday before liberty that a new war might be happening at any time :lol
 
perfectchaos007 said:
I wonder what's going on at the DMZ right now. It hasn't escalated to total chaos yet has it? Will Obama be awoken by news of this?
Sure the DMZ is at full alert and on lock down and of course Obama is being woken up. You don't just shell a US ally and not tell the president about the situation.
 
If anything happens, it would be Korean War again. Allies vs. NK, China doesn't give much of a damn except keeping the fighting within the Korean peninsula. People are delusional if they think China or any other country in the region would try for anything more than an insignificant land grab at best.
 
Botolf said:
Doubtful. Starting another World War on the account of a submarine and some burned houses would be foolish to the extreme. Sanctions and limited retaliation, probably.
Are you kidding me? Imagine if say a KGB agent was found during 9/11. The fact that the rest were Middle Eastern would've IMMEDIATELY been swept under the rug.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?
google translate: North Korea provoked the war have been recruited real scary c d

Has he been drafted or something?
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?
North Korea is scary, the atmosphere is warlike/war-mood/the mood around here is that of war

I suck at translating, but that's about that.
 
Botolf said:
Doubtful. Starting another World War on the account of a submarine and some burned houses would be foolish to the extreme. Sanctions and limited retaliation, probably.
Costly wars have been started in the past for more ridiculous reasons.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?
North Korea is provocating an escalation that might lead to war. Your friend is afraid of being recruited.
 
xbhaskarx said:
To those who are talking about an all out war:

Are you people not aware that North Korea has nuclear weapons?

Yes, the military doctrine of "mutually assured destruction" would suggest that neither side would resort to the use of nukes, but given how much more powerful the US military is than their military, a conventional war that threatened the regime could lead to a "use them or lose them" situation...

Basically what that means is the US can't just invade North Korea and overthrow the NK regime, because they would use their nukes to take out South Korea and Japan.
The US does not recognize North Korea as a nuclear state.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?
"North Korea has just provoked a war. may have to be recruited, real scary stuff"

Just a google translation with some adjustments from me.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?

According to the internet translator: "North Korea provoked the war have been recruited real scary c d"
 
perfectchaos007 said:
My friend in Seoul just posted this on my facebook

북한도발 무섭다 ㄷ ㄷ 전쟁 분위기다 레알


any Korean want to translate this for me?

my korean isn't very good (korean born in america and didn't want to go to korean school when i was a kid and am going now as an adult)

but something about being north korea + very scared
 
Didn't NK sink a South Korean naval ship a few months ago killing SK troops? This sucks, but people need to calm down. Unless they start sending troops across the DMZ there won't be full hostilities. If they really wanted to re-start the war Seoul would already be smoldering rubble. The chance of open, full scale hostilities is as likely as Israel and Palestine reaching a pece agreement.
 
rpmurphy said:
If anything happens, it would be Korean War again. Allies vs. NK, China doesn't give much of a damn except keeping the fighting within the Korean peninsula. People are delusional if they think China or any other country in the region would try for anything more than an insignificant land grab at best.
Why? Even 50s China granted Korea their own (commie) sovereignty. And 2010s China is far more interested in stability and safe economy.

edit: never mind I see you're saying China wouldn't land grab.
 
xbhaskarx said:
To those who are talking about an all out war:

Are you people not aware that North Korea has nuclear weapons?

Yes, the military doctrine of "mutually assured destruction" would suggest that neither side would resort to the use of nukes, but given how much more powerful the US military is than their military, a conventional war that threatened the regime could lead to a "use them or lose them" situation...

Basically what that means is the US can't just invade North Korea and overthrow the NK regime, because they would use their nukes to take out South Korea and Japan.

MAD may not apply to Kim Jong Il, you can't apply a doctrine like that to an irrational person
 
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