Diplomacy is starting to look like an impossible way to achieve the goal of getting NK to back down and give up on nukes as each day pass.
U.S should not tolerate the idea of a Nuke armed North Korea.
What's your suggestion?
If it is seen that they are getting too close to miniaturization of the nukes (which analyst predicts could be within a year or 2), then I would use the military option.
Only other thing that may bring NK to it's knees is if the world sanctions NK from any and everything, but that won't happen because China and Russia are on the Security Council and some countries like to smuggle things into NK.
A military option, while it would have enormous cost, would not only deal with this issue, but knock out NK completely and help/save the North Korean people. A sacrifice I feel is worth making personally.
Eesh, tell that to the millions of folks in Korea, notably Seoul. They're the ones who are going to end up taking the brunt of any retaliation of a military option that happened. For me, just let them have their nukes. They won't use them because they know what the repercussions would be and the end result (Kim's out of power, regime collapses). They only want them as a deterrence to a regime change by force.
Yes and let the next country that wants nukes have it too... Oh so now the other country wants one because his enemy have one? Let him have one too! I am sure none of them would use it, because they all know the repercussions. Yeah, see, I don't agree with that especially knowing nukes were almost used again several times.
It is their desire for nuclear weapons that is increasing the chances of a regime change. They have China back them and Seoul held hostage, which is enough to keep U.S from wanting regime change.
I am sure none of them would use it, because they all know the repercussions.
NK Missiles 2017 |OT| Fire and Fury over HokkaidoGood idea dating the thread title. Although maybe it'd be easier to have a single NK missile GAF thread for all these launches.
If it is seen that they are getting too close to miniaturization of the nukes (which analyst predicts could be within a year or 2), then I would use the military option.
Only other thing that may bring NK to it's knees is if the world sanctions NK from any and everything, but that won't happen because China and Russia are on the Security Council and some countries like to smuggle things into NK.
A military option, while it would have enormous cost, would not only deal with this issue, but knock out NK completely and help/save the North Korean people. A sacrifice I feel is worth making personally.
Fanciful bullshit. Any collapse of the regime would immediately see millions of starving North Koreans fleeing into China creating the biggest humanitarian disaster since WWII. What was once NK would need international support for decades just to stop it becoming a wasteland like something out of Mad Max. And that doesn't take into account the tsunami of KPA weaponry that would hit the global arms market following any collapse of the state.
Can the Bombs Away Brigade please think before posting.
...Yes?
Whats the South korean position on this. Is re-unification still a thing?
Anti-missile systems are difficult. I don't think Japan has any, few countries have.
And ballistic missile defense systems are even more difficult and rarer....
Well aware of this, so you are the one that should think before posting.
No one said or implied it would be an easy task, we are talking about a huge chunk of the population in concentration camps, terribly malnourished, and without any education. So yes, it will be a "humanitarian disaster", but one of the few that is actually a good thing if handled correctly. It still don't change the fact, that ending the North Korean regime WILL help the North Korean people. That isn't "fanciful bullshit", that is facts, unless you are arguing that North Koreans are better off dying in droves, being tortured in mass, and getting brainwashed under the Kim regime is them being better off.
If you really believe that bullshit, then you have much higher faith in humanity than I ever will, or you are not aware of just how many times nukes were almost used and took outside pressure or a miracle decision on one man to prevent it.
Youre probably right and South Korea agrees.Jesus Christ
Because NK is shooting test rockets they didn't "almost use nukes"
And mutual assured destruction is not bullshit, it's a fact, even a middle schooler knows how it works
So what you think will happen is that somebody will inevitably say "Yeah, let's use a nuke to destroy my enemies", resulting in "Hey, maybe wasn't such a good idea now that I see all the nukes coming at me right now".
The west had their fun, now its time for an asian nuclear arms race. A cold war is better than a world war after all..The heated debate in South Korea over redeploying U.S. nuclear weapons on its territory has now reached Washington. A senior delegation of South Korean lawmakers is in town making the case to the Trump administration and Congress that such a move is needed to confront North Korea's growing nuclear capability and place more pressure on China.
Youre probably right and South Korea agrees.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-for-nuclear-weapons/?utm_term=.1e11566fada7
The west had their fun, now its time for an asian nuclear arms race. A cold war is better than a world war after all..
Can we not post fake tweets, he spouts enough bullshit as it is, and I feel it only really promotes disinformation. I mean at least mark it as fake.
Rocket Man?
Rocket Man?
Jesus Christ
Because NK is shooting test rockets they didn't "almost use nukes"
And mutual assured destruction is not bullshit, it's a fact, even a middle schooler knows how it works
So what you think will happen is that somebody will inevitably say "Yeah, let's use a nuke to destroy my enemies", resulting in "Hey, maybe wasn't such a good idea now that I see all the nukes coming at me right now".
Who does this? Even assuming that instant retaliation wouldn't happen, noboby is stupid enough to test it, that's how large the implications are
Let me sum up a "Let's go to war" situation in this case:
-US decides to attack
-NK bombs Seoul and other cities near the border into oblivion with artillery, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths if they're lucky, because some of it got destroyed in time and Seoul bombing shelters were good enough, over a million if not. In the first few days of such an intervention.
-NK citizens flee to China resulting in a humanitarian crisis
So, to prevent that maybe possibly someone is stupid enough to use a nuke that would result in their own destruction, you rather attack them resulting in a great death count for your allies there (???)