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Not to troll, but why do people get 'upset' over celebrity deaths?

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demon

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MrAngryFace said:
I feel nothing for reeves, rodney, or ray charles.
That is because you have a heart of coal.

Or is it.......kryptonite?


GET'IM!
 

Matrix

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Miguel

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But, well, actors I don't get too much. But that's just me.

Sports players on the other hand....you watch these guys play for 10, 12, 15 years. Watch them go through your organization. You live and die with every action they make on the field/court. Then one day...they're gone. Caminiti was playing not even 3 years ago I believe when he was arrested on drug charges. :(
 
know them? seriously? Im not like laughing at you but its so alien to me. I cant imagine feeling that personal about someone ive only seen on tv really.
 

Triumph

Banned
Beats me. But then again I've lost several people that I've known quite well in my life, so maybe someone that I don't know passing has little effect on me due to perspective.
 

XS+

Banned
Any natural death of a filthy rich celebrity past 70 isn't a sad story as far as I'm concerned. Reeve was pretty young though and lived the rest of his life only able to move his head around, that's pretty tragic no matter who it is.
 

Catalyst

Banned
These are big names and big people who people thought were invincible. Or something. What's really going to burst everyone's bubble is when Michael Jordan or Jim Carrey die.
 
I never get too upset about celebrity deaths. Maybe a little depressed when I hear the news (if I LIKED the person in question), but nothing two minutes later.
 

Phoenix

Member
Because certain people have such an impact on the lives of others that many start to feel as if they knew them personally. As such as almost as if, though not quite the same as, a good friend dieing. Very understandable actually.
 
Kids dying all over the world cause they cant get food, lots younger. Not to say I feel sad for them either. Dont know them. I know they're out there tho, which adds another reason not to pity the famous who live more in 25 years than most do in 70.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Because they're someone who we've grown to like? Who's movies we enjoy. In some cases people we look up to. Why shouldn't we feel upset when these icons pass away? Some of these people really did a lot for American culture.
 

DMczaf

Member
Catalyst said:
These are big names and big people who people thought were invincible. Or something. What's really going to burst everyone's bubble is when Michael Jordan or Jim Carrey die.

FUCK YOU!!! JORDAN WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!



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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I don't get 'upset'. I'm not going to cry or anything.

But c'mon, if you've grown up watching someone act or do stand-up or whatever for many years, there's going to be a fondness for at least their work, and if they die, well, they can't do any more work. It's just sad from a plain ol' objective view. someone that did some great stuff is no longer with us. It's sad. Doesn't mean you have to get bent out of shape about it, but c'mon, the end to anything great is unfortunate. Crying about it might be a bit much, but these people did stuff, at the very least simple entertainment to a lot more in the enrichment of culture.

I remember being somewhat down when I was a kid and hearing about Jim Henson and Dr Suess's deaths. It's not like I knew them at all, they weren't even on camera or anything like that. I loved their work though, and I knew that the world wouldn't get anything new from their minds, and that sucked.
 

Triumph

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I think the only celebrity or quasi-celebrity whose death I ever got upset over was Bill Hicks. He was such a phenomenally funny man, with true wit and the balls to say what he believed and be funny about it at the same time. He died young of pancreatic cancer(mid 30's, I believe) and I really feel that the world has been deprived of some incredible, incredible humor due to that loss. I can only imagine what Bill would have had to say about Dubya and some of the truly moronic shit going on in the world today, so in that sense I am upset.

But older celebrities? Nah.
 

NohWun

Member
It means a lot more to you when you grew up with these celebrities. They were "fixtures" in your reality. When they die, it shakes your reality and reminds you that you too are mortal.

It makes much less difference if you didn't really know them so long.

You'll understand when you get older :)
 
Yea, I'm with MAF on this one. I don't get it. But then I saw the post about MJ or Jim Carrey dying and I was like "Wow, maybe I would feel something then." Just none the people dying lately did I really idolize or anything like that. But Jim Carrey dying would definitely shock me.
 

Catalyst

Banned
MrAngryFace said:
Im 25, I know im mortal. Plenty of my family have died.
So maybe you're just hard-hearted, then? I'm very lucky...I'm 20 and hardly any of my family has died, although my brother was stillborn and I had to watch my mother be suicidal for the longest time. But you know, there's nothing wrong with caring, either, MAF.

Although...nothing is really what it ever seems, and if to expect the unexpected means to coincide with the laws of the universe, then please, lend me a few ideas because life is surely depressing sometimes.
 

fennec fox

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I'm not gonna look at this thread and see people say "well, we're just kind of fond for these celebrities", and then go to (say) the Reeve thread and see people shat upon and perhaps banded for saying anything negative at all about the celebrity in question.

I guess it's sort of a shame Reeve passed away, in the same way that it's a shame everybody has to die eventually, but only in special circumstances does it matter in the long run. For example, Huey Long was an incredibly influential Southern politician in the 1930s, an extremely popular guy (he had a grandiose redistribution-of-wealth plan that resonated with Depression-era America) and a major rival to Franklin Roosevelt. Someone assassinated him in 1935, though, and his movement, which lost his personal charisma, fell apart. If he had lived, then maybe he could've taken on Roosevelt for the presidency, which could have completely changed how the New Deal and, later on, WWII transpired.

I've wandered a bit, but that's the sort of thing that attracts my attention -- not the death of some guy who's famous for a few movies he starred in during the 80s.
 

Catalyst

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PuertoRicanJuice said:
Yea, I'm with MAF on this one. I don't get it. But then I saw the post about MJ or Jim Carrey dying and I was like "Wow, maybe I would feel something then." Just none the people dying lately did I really idolize or anything like that. But Jim Carrey dying would definitely shock me.
It's like I meant to say, it's just a matter of who they were to you, and what they meant. What did they symbolize to you? What did these people remind you of? 'Tis why people get upset. Sometimes it may not even have to do with caring, maybe it just has something to do with what you learn in early highschool English classes.

Sometimes....they might symbolize something, but then you may not care anyway, like MAF. Not to say there's something wrong with that, but it also enlightens you more on what kind of personalities people have. Garsh, I hope I'm not talking too much :p
 
im really good at reading people most of the time, I guess I just dont idolize anyone really. Ill respect people, but thats about as far as it goes.
 

SKluck

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I've never felt bad for any death I didn't know the person. Maybe people care because they won't see any more movies/music/whatever? Who knows.
 

karasu

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Why do people get upset over the death of TV shows? The simple answer is because they care. You associate them with a character you love, or you associate a movie they were in with a time in your life, etc etc etc, It's easy to have a little empathy when you're familiar with a person.
 

Catalyst

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karasu said:
Why do people get upset over the death of TV shows? The simple answer is because they care. You associate them with a character you love, or you associate a movie they were in with a time in your life, etc etc etc, It's easy to have a little empathy when you're familiar with a person.
Yes, but I won't feel sorry for Kobe when that chick's future boyfriend slits his throat in his sleep. Meh heh heh.
 

karasu

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fennec fox said:
I'm not gonna look at this thread and see people say "well, we're just kind of fond for these celebrities", and then go to (say) the Reeve thread and see people shat upon and perhaps banded for saying anything negative at all about the celebrity in question.

I guess it's sort of a shame Reeve passed away, in the same way that it's a shame everybody has to die eventually, but only in special circumstances does it matter in the long run. For example, Huey Long was an incredibly influential Southern politician in the 1930s, an extremely popular guy (he had a grandiose redistribution-of-wealth plan that resonated with Depression-era America) and a major rival to Franklin Roosevelt. Someone assassinated him in 1935, though, and his movement, which lost his personal charisma, fell apart. If he had lived, then maybe he could've taken on Roosevelt for the presidency, which could have completely changed how the New Deal and, later on, WWII transpired.

I've wandered a bit, but that's the sort of thing that attracts my attention -- not the death of some guy who's famous for a few movies he starred in during the 80s.

I'm sure we all care about those types of deaths, but that doesn't mean we can't be saddened by the death of an entertainer. It isn't really an either/or situation.

And please, some people were shat on for shittin on a guy who just died? Oh they were banded for a day or two? Cry me a river.
 

Razoric

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Uh people get "sad" because eventhough they didn't "know" that person, maybe that said person sang a song, played a really good part in a movie, or some other form of entertainment that has been etched in your memory. What if your favorite band died in a plane crash? Wouldnt you be sad that they'll never make music again? Wouldnt you be sad that the band that brought you so much entertainment / maybe even affected your life in some way are now dead? It's not the person per say that you are sad for, its a combination of who they are, what they did and what memories you hold dear that are somehow attached to them.

I mean weren't you sad when the guy who invited Twinkies died?
 

DjangoReinhardt

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Dan said:
I don't get 'upset'. I'm not going to cry or anything.

But c'mon, if you've grown up watching someone act or do stand-up or whatever for many years, there's going to be a fondness for at least their work, and if they die, well, they can't do any more work. It's just sad from a plain ol' objective view. someone that did some great stuff is no longer with us. It's sad. Doesn't mean you have to get bent out of shape about it, but c'mon, the end to anything great is unfortunate. Crying about it might be a bit much, but these people did stuff, at the very least simple entertainment to a lot more in the enrichment of culture.

I remember being somewhat down when I was a kid and hearing about Jim Henson and Dr Suess's deaths. It's not like I knew them at all, they weren't even on camera or anything like that. I loved their work though, and I knew that the world wouldn't get anything new from their minds, and that sucked.

Well said. I know that I've been saddened by the deaths of favorite artists - writers, musicians - and it's never felt weird to me. Their lives had a positive, tangible impact on my life, even if I never knew them personally.

I can't imagine a situation where the death of an American politician or figurehead like Princess Di would cause the slightest bit of concern, though.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
fennec fox said:
I've wandered a bit, but that's the sort of thing that attracts my attention -- not the death of some guy who's famous for a few movies he starred in during the 80s.
You might have been able to say that before his accident, but after 1995 he's been known for a lot more than his movies. Can you even bring up stem cell research nowadays without bringing him up as well? He's done a hell of a lot for that issue along with a lot of other things.
 

isamu

OMFG HOLY MOTHER OF MARY IN HEAVEN I CANT BELIEVE IT WTF WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AAAAHHH
HalfPastNoon said:
maf just always has to be the center of attention. what a ridiculous thread.

Saint Cornelius said:
you're just kind of an asshole


...with those out of the way, there are a very select FEW in the entertainment industry that I would actually be sad to hear of their deaths. Mostly lead singers of my favorite bands....like Dave Gahan(Depeche Mode), Robert Smith(The Cure), Morrissey(The Smiths), Johnny Marr(The Smiths), Bernard Sumner(New Order), Matt Johnson(theThe), Yoko Kanno and Hiroko Kasahara. Certain actors too like Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino and DeNiro. Oh and of course the God of anime....Shoji Kawamori.
 
I think it depends on your age and upbringing. Christopher Reeve was a big part of my childhood, so for me, a little part of my childhood dies with him. No need to be insensitive about it, is there?
 

scorcho

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i'll admit that it is upsetting that Ray Charles died. what a great blind singer he was.
 

Fifty

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There is no one reason...While it doesn't affect me, or bother me that much, reading comments from various people about his death...and how they're near tears or deeply saddened brings to mind how much these people can mean to the general public. I think it's sad that he didn't recover, and break new ground by walking again...and I hope more people call him by his real name instead of Superman. :p
 

Grizzlyjin

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Same thing with me, I don't have a personal connection to them so there is no way I'm going to be in tears. I felt really bad when Rodney died earlier this week, but it didn't bring me to tears. Same situation with Reeves. I feel bad for his family but my emotional response isn't any different from hearing about a fatal car accident on the news. In this world you don't have time to cry everytime someone you don't know dies, that's just the way things are. It might seem insensitive, but I just can't sit there and cry if someone I don't know dies.

There are shows and movies I really like, but I don't have much of an emotional connection with the actors. I don't feel the need to reach out for a personal relationship with someone I don't know...Reeves dying has the same impact on me as hearing about a family in Iraq getting killed. Sad, but I don't sit around and stop what I'm doing to "deal with it."
 
All I have to say is that if you weren't bummed out by Mr. Rogers dying, then something is wrong with you. Thats the only celebrity I really felt depressed about for more then 10 minutes. Granted, the man was old, but damn it, he ruled.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
ConfusingJazz said:
All I have to say is that if you weren't bummed out by Mr. Rogers dying, then something is wrong with you. Thats the only celebrity I really felt depressed about for more then 10 minutes. Granted, the man was old, but damn it, he ruled.

I actually met him a few times when I lived in Pittsburgh. He went to the same pharmacy as my family, so sometimes he would just be randomly there. I was only like 9 years old at the time, so I was in awe everytime we saw him. He seemed just as nice as he did on tv. Founding father of PBS and just an all around great guy. :)
 

BlackMage

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I don't like it when anybody dies, even those I don't know. but it's not like I hear about the deaths of common people.
 
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